Die KI-Hasswelle der Amerikaner nimmt möglicherweise gerade Fahrt auf: Rechenzentren könnten die Stromkosten in einigen Bundesstaaten bis 2030 um über 50 % erhöhen
Die KI-Hasswelle der Amerikaner nimmt möglicherweise gerade Fahrt auf: Rechenzentren könnten die Stromkosten in einigen Bundesstaaten bis 2030 um über 50 % erhöhen
For years, the American power grid was a bastion of predictable stability. Throughout the 2010s, U.S. electricity demand remained flat as efficiency gains and declines in energy-intensive sectors such as manufacturing helped obscure the dawning digital age.
But the power grid as it once was might be no match for the technological demands of the 2020s. Retail electricity prices have soared in recent years, an increase fast outpacing inflation over the same period, in part due to the rising power costs associated with the artificial intelligence-driven infrastructure boom. Electricity costs have been one of the factors fueling the recent nosedive AI has taken in public polling, and a new study suggests residential utility pain tied to the technology needs of this decade might be just getting started.
Between 2018 and 2023, the share represented by data centers in total U.S. electricity use rose from 1.9% to 4.4%, according to a study published last week in the journal Environmental Research Letters.
NoScallion2856 on
Increasing our electric bills just to power AI data centers is ridiculous.
Alternative_Swan_497 on
But just think about how much wealthier the ultra-rich will be!
AlwaysBananas on
I want to know how they plan to defend these data centers. It certainly *feels* like their current plan is cause mass disruption to society in the next five or so years with nice big buildings that say “it cost me an ungodly sum of money to build this, and it caused all of you to lose trust in reality, lose your income stream, lose the hope that your children could grow into a successful and fulfilling career, and also it’s transparently the reason your energy costs are skyrocketing. I sure hope nothing bad happens to my giant energy intensive fragile death god machine.”
Getafix69 on
We will take your jobs, water and hike your bills to make the billionaires richer.
Win win right 👀
Agitated_Ad6191 on
Just let them build those data centers only in red maga states. This is what they voted for. Fuck them.
not_right on
Needs to be the law that if you want to build a data centre you also have to build the (sustainable) power supply for it.
UltraPoci on
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rodg2062 on
😱 data centers can affect energy bills. No way, hasn’t everyone been watching how they’ll have no impact on electric bills or the environment. 🤣🤣🤣
senzuboon on
I’m wondering when the first one will go up in flames.
Ada_Pearce on
These data centers are simply unnecessary and they shit everything up. There is zero reason for people to support them
VVrayth on
Fun fact: As long as gasoline and matches remain affordable, we can actually work to control this.
sokos on
I don’t get it.. AI costs more to run than workers, people don’t actually want them, it drives the cost of everything up, so who the fuck is actually pushing it onto the companies???
oldcreaker on
Which means we are paying to run these data centers.
Funny how when we pay taxes that benefit us it’s condemned as socialism stealing our money – but it’s fine and dandy we’ll all pay to support these data centers that will generate profit for someone else.
Yakety_Sax on
Can someone please explain to me why we are subsidizing the increased strain on the grid instead if just having the Data centers oay more?
JDogg126 on
Lots of regulations are needed around data centers at this point. They are posing a risk to the health and wellbeing of society at large.
oldnyoung on
It’s the one thing both sides of the aisle seem to agree on in my area
AlienSquatch on
Fuck AI and the corporate ghouls shoving it down our throats
BekindBebetter60 on
Someone’s got explain to me like I’m a baby. How are data centers getting to use electricity from public lines and then creating higher bills for us? They should be building their own plants and powering their own data centers. It’s just government corruption that is allowing these guys to buy in and then have us support their money making schemes.
karl4319 on
So here’s an idea: every new data center has to fund enough solar installation on local businesses and homes until the *surplus* powers the data center. Basically force them to lower everyone’s bill instead of raising it while expanding our solar capabilities and not over taxing our aging grid.
mvillerob on
We must be sure to make our terminators are the ones who rule future earth.
t-g-l-h- on
Where the fuck is Tyler Durden and operation mayhem when you need them
homerhungry on
make the data centers pay their fair share of the cost of power, with a subsidy for locals to help them cover any increases in their bills paid for by the data center owners
LindeeHilltop on
And just who can afford a 50% increase in their electricity bill? Are they nuts?
fountaincurse on
*Renewable energy would also play an important role in meeting that demand, although wind and solar’s ability to compensate has grown heavily dependent on policy.*
Meaning renewable energy could more than meet data centers‘ energy demands but America is being held hostage by a hundred million literal dipshits and traitors.
itsoksee on
Why do everyday citizens have to foot the bill?! Americans wouldn’t care as long as data centers weren’t ruining our dwindling water supply, increasing our electric bills, causing noise pollution; and creating huge amounts of heat.
But again, why are we footing the bill for someone we didn’t agree to, sign up for, etc….
Billionaires own this shit and they should pay for it, period.
Pleasant-Shallot-707 on
If data centers were required to fund their capacity requirements for the grid (including transmission) there’d be far less push back.
These fucks want to externalize the costs they’re generating on the people in the states they’re building in.
Smart_Spinach_1538 on
How is this benefitting us?
pinnhead350 on
SC is already up about 50% , no need to wait until 2030…
stayathmdad on
But remember EV’s will be too much for our grid!
rangecontrol on
how the fuck can they open a business that costs other ppl money? it’s fucked.
bullydog123 on
If the corrupt government stop giving all these data centers tax and energy breaks. Because trumps handlers are pay8ng him for the races and energy breaks. Then the price would not go up seeing how they would actually being paying for the energy they are using.
drawmer on
Yeah, we’re already saying for your service. Not paying again for the service you use.
rmc2318 on
They can’t take any more power if they no longer exist.
arkofjoy on
There are currently 3 things that have strong agreement across the political spectrum in America that neither party has any intention to do anything about :
Data centres
Epstein files
The money in politics.
I sometimes dream deep in the night that these things could bring the American people back together, to form strong coalitions, ignoring the parties to deal with these issues. And in the process, end the tribalism that is being used to distract and divide us, while the billionaires rape and pillage, both literally and figuratively.
californicating on
Can someone explain how data centers raise power prices?
Mother_Airline_6276 on
It’s going to get to the point where cost isn’t the issue. It’s actually having the fucking resources in the first place that’s going to be the killer.
EmergencyJacket207 on
Why are we paying for this anyways? What happened to pay your own damn bills?
Ok-Giraffe-8434 on
Can’t wait until we have to start having rolling brownouts during the summer because the grid can’t handle the load, but the data centers will keep right on humming. /s
MrBahhum on
Basically an Enron scheme. All data centers are resource sinks. They need to disclose how much resources they use.
punkrocktransbian on
Anyone else feel like ecoterrorism is gonna pop off with all these data centers?
We’re gonna have fucking real life mako reactors and AVALANCHE groups
Phssthp0kThePak on
The wave concern and hate over data centers sure has appeared quite suddenly.
Vladmerius on
Why the fuck are the data centers not paying the costs?
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For years, the American power grid was a bastion of predictable stability. Throughout the 2010s, U.S. electricity demand remained flat as efficiency gains and declines in energy-intensive sectors such as manufacturing helped obscure the dawning digital age.
But the power grid as it once was might be no match for the technological demands of the 2020s. Retail electricity prices have soared in recent years, an increase fast outpacing inflation over the same period, in part due to the rising power costs associated with the artificial intelligence-driven infrastructure boom. Electricity costs have been one of the factors fueling the recent nosedive AI has taken in public polling, and a new study suggests residential utility pain tied to the technology needs of this decade might be just getting started.
Between 2018 and 2023, the share represented by data centers in total U.S. electricity use rose from 1.9% to 4.4%, according to a study published last week in the journal Environmental Research Letters.
Increasing our electric bills just to power AI data centers is ridiculous.
But just think about how much wealthier the ultra-rich will be!
I want to know how they plan to defend these data centers. It certainly *feels* like their current plan is cause mass disruption to society in the next five or so years with nice big buildings that say “it cost me an ungodly sum of money to build this, and it caused all of you to lose trust in reality, lose your income stream, lose the hope that your children could grow into a successful and fulfilling career, and also it’s transparently the reason your energy costs are skyrocketing. I sure hope nothing bad happens to my giant energy intensive fragile death god machine.”
We will take your jobs, water and hike your bills to make the billionaires richer.
Win win right 👀
Just let them build those data centers only in red maga states. This is what they voted for. Fuck them.
Needs to be the law that if you want to build a data centre you also have to build the (sustainable) power supply for it.
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😱 data centers can affect energy bills. No way, hasn’t everyone been watching how they’ll have no impact on electric bills or the environment. 🤣🤣🤣
I’m wondering when the first one will go up in flames.
These data centers are simply unnecessary and they shit everything up. There is zero reason for people to support them
Fun fact: As long as gasoline and matches remain affordable, we can actually work to control this.
I don’t get it.. AI costs more to run than workers, people don’t actually want them, it drives the cost of everything up, so who the fuck is actually pushing it onto the companies???
Which means we are paying to run these data centers.
Funny how when we pay taxes that benefit us it’s condemned as socialism stealing our money – but it’s fine and dandy we’ll all pay to support these data centers that will generate profit for someone else.
Can someone please explain to me why we are subsidizing the increased strain on the grid instead if just having the Data centers oay more?
Lots of regulations are needed around data centers at this point. They are posing a risk to the health and wellbeing of society at large.
It’s the one thing both sides of the aisle seem to agree on in my area
Fuck AI and the corporate ghouls shoving it down our throats
Someone’s got explain to me like I’m a baby. How are data centers getting to use electricity from public lines and then creating higher bills for us? They should be building their own plants and powering their own data centers. It’s just government corruption that is allowing these guys to buy in and then have us support their money making schemes.
So here’s an idea: every new data center has to fund enough solar installation on local businesses and homes until the *surplus* powers the data center. Basically force them to lower everyone’s bill instead of raising it while expanding our solar capabilities and not over taxing our aging grid.
We must be sure to make our terminators are the ones who rule future earth.
Where the fuck is Tyler Durden and operation mayhem when you need them
make the data centers pay their fair share of the cost of power, with a subsidy for locals to help them cover any increases in their bills paid for by the data center owners
And just who can afford a 50% increase in their electricity bill? Are they nuts?
*Renewable energy would also play an important role in meeting that demand, although wind and solar’s ability to compensate has grown heavily dependent on policy.*
Meaning renewable energy could more than meet data centers‘ energy demands but America is being held hostage by a hundred million literal dipshits and traitors.
Why do everyday citizens have to foot the bill?! Americans wouldn’t care as long as data centers weren’t ruining our dwindling water supply, increasing our electric bills, causing noise pollution; and creating huge amounts of heat.
But again, why are we footing the bill for someone we didn’t agree to, sign up for, etc….
Billionaires own this shit and they should pay for it, period.
If data centers were required to fund their capacity requirements for the grid (including transmission) there’d be far less push back.
These fucks want to externalize the costs they’re generating on the people in the states they’re building in.
How is this benefitting us?
SC is already up about 50% , no need to wait until 2030…
But remember EV’s will be too much for our grid!
how the fuck can they open a business that costs other ppl money? it’s fucked.
If the corrupt government stop giving all these data centers tax and energy breaks. Because trumps handlers are pay8ng him for the races and energy breaks. Then the price would not go up seeing how they would actually being paying for the energy they are using.
Yeah, we’re already saying for your service. Not paying again for the service you use.
They can’t take any more power if they no longer exist.
There are currently 3 things that have strong agreement across the political spectrum in America that neither party has any intention to do anything about :
Data centres
Epstein files
The money in politics.
I sometimes dream deep in the night that these things could bring the American people back together, to form strong coalitions, ignoring the parties to deal with these issues. And in the process, end the tribalism that is being used to distract and divide us, while the billionaires rape and pillage, both literally and figuratively.
Can someone explain how data centers raise power prices?
It’s going to get to the point where cost isn’t the issue. It’s actually having the fucking resources in the first place that’s going to be the killer.
Why are we paying for this anyways? What happened to pay your own damn bills?
Can’t wait until we have to start having rolling brownouts during the summer because the grid can’t handle the load, but the data centers will keep right on humming. /s
Basically an Enron scheme. All data centers are resource sinks. They need to disclose how much resources they use.
Anyone else feel like ecoterrorism is gonna pop off with all these data centers?
We’re gonna have fucking real life mako reactors and AVALANCHE groups
The wave concern and hate over data centers sure has appeared quite suddenly.
Why the fuck are the data centers not paying the costs?