Corporations don’t want it, Canadians don’t want it, security experts don’t want it, LPC voters don’t even want it, so who the fuck is this bill for?
ARunOfTheMillPerson on
If there was ever a reason for a mass protest It’s probably this, honestly. The impression I get is that it’s going forward no matter how much it hollows out the country. They’re already assessing the polling numbers to see how much of a hit it’ll be to them.
I’ve been frustrated by Canadian government strategies before, but I’ve never been frightened by one, and that alone is enough for me to want to push back in a real way.
We have digital watchdogs and constitutional rights groups protesting it daily, how is that not a sign that this isn’t what it seems, for real.
annehboo on
Please write your MP about this.
JohnDorian0506 on
Bad for terrorists, no difference for the average person?
If you’ve done your reading and you have an informed opinion then you might want to tell them. Their opinion likely matters more directly than your own MP’s
Recommend reading security and privacy experts‘ opinions before voicing your own to an MP or committee member, it helps pinpoint everything that’s wrong with this bill
CanadianRunner03 on
Tired of this “Big Brother” party man
mik3br on
Just learned about this bill. Mmm more surveillance.
ts142 on
Have my proton vpn installed already.
gettingtgere on
This why liberal govt wanted a majority to spy on us ?
creeoer on
Imo, the bill will pass but with amendments around the controversial Part 2 that will satisfy big tech and VPN companies. Very low chance this passes as is without amendments. And even if it does still good chance Part 2 is found unconstitutional.
catonakeyboard on
Hot take, but where is the contradiction on VPNs? It sounds like the govt is encouraging VPNs as a security best practice (true) while advancing reforms that support criminal and national security investigations when authorized by law (valid and important objectives).
The privacy vs. security debate is all about tradeoffs. The govt has done a very bad job explaining the security side of the debate. I would invite folks to consider the [recent conclusions](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-rcmp-lawful-access-nsicop-1.7640075) of the [NSICOP report on lawful access](https://nsicop-cpsnr.ca/reports/rp-2025-09-15-sr/250915_NSICOP_Lawful_access_report.pdf):
>While noting legitimate privacy concerns, the report found organizations like the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and RCMP are hindered because they do not have the tools, policies and authorities in place to legally access communications during investigations.
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Corporations don’t want it, Canadians don’t want it, security experts don’t want it, LPC voters don’t even want it, so who the fuck is this bill for?
If there was ever a reason for a mass protest It’s probably this, honestly. The impression I get is that it’s going forward no matter how much it hollows out the country. They’re already assessing the polling numbers to see how much of a hit it’ll be to them.
I’ve been frustrated by Canadian government strategies before, but I’ve never been frightened by one, and that alone is enough for me to want to push back in a real way.
We have digital watchdogs and constitutional rights groups protesting it daily, how is that not a sign that this isn’t what it seems, for real.
Please write your MP about this.
Bad for terrorists, no difference for the average person?
LPC dominates the Senate and the House of Commons and is on its way to take over the committees; not sure what they need to be worried about anymore… Canadian voters[](https://alb.reddit.com/cr?za=i0E7onwNjNPJyyYnvKDrV0gfV8VxMNguENdy_t_fkmwQhY4uc9nWX8TxWC7iyDPwUzRfXSNanMkgRXcIwdCUWCByVQNJkCH6YJlRV4inar2iixbGpbsfVPlJxQQLcreeptKUbFPWBvHXWm4d4lPW7X5uXMDU27CX4PbHxnkItvdYbyAa8GsRgv2ZZPIegzbChIU3RjFmFeXkKs5b7Tz1oR3OdHioXp3vaDiaXE998f5fxtVXp5T3ADP-j3_xZJ4R1CX1-uSlW7Z7pna9mSY1nTfNsVl6j90t9oMKiQPsgKbo1H-FP46fIm3p-pXSPoTgnSBwiFfC_2HbIFwgzvPz0xXQEuXU2_fpqedoI8PHgBudlyy9tYRwPbOobmQ-hFyjJyNakEOJ_Y-qiKHDRQJkcTpY7panePX-7OmsT96n0-iIj3tBy_WFD1q0AxR-A4NfZXLG9fCub3ijFefNBCqzhieYQwjIF4uyQQLWWMrc59bdeYH5kdtA_7uHwtCQs9APjLZJCtVRkKYM2HW3BINRKZ-3EezHYshegr_GuRzNrwMNTtOfk3pyWxZcPhNuEq9G5Vng2f7rqZLMJm6iud6SnyCTaSzGU9mJgkxy1_g8mztBfNZyoXilWc1QcUiU468BjG5gzNFgUDhek6PLb1CUeDepIfn33UIanNJCYa08-2eUqa8Mk64TgjBF70JNteoAYso1FOldoHAiQLbYY5Jy4CTno0SoVplh-y3dGH0kfzX78hfsqbN_4bqwaycbBGhp2S2rAaE_5rTPoZa9yOKZCBQ9buk33j2PJLXiHiYUUQWT7_2eydM&zp=VzuZ9giqLUJCuqF__XdhFVF0n61qgqyJQVxsHAAQoKeMNsU5rtYRjbqYsRZg4w8LKkpn-DDSb_-iSxRGW1l5msMhpqN9ldRqfXvIUjtBR3uqaBV8IbaZLylk0hl93bwXudJqhmGZU5jbNptSDKg_2T3Ksjdluf0j3wrnwAYA3STrEdYUCv8Q3ZsDxDAAQUOZPM5NFTE83oEgDGU9AgLxL8UzD-9IA4qGrFe8bVNWUyyR6bFO1vGIskZXn9qAB2Z6DtAmFKEh6vqcVOITKKaOUwmVQrbgqOe8jWM&a=128154&b=128112&be=128036&c=128022&d=118927&e=118926&ea=118926&eb=118926&f=118926&r=6&g=1&i=1779245738080&t=1779245878137&o=1&q=1&h=188&w=732&sh=864&sw=1536) ? lmao.
There is a house of commons petition against this in process of approval, it’d be cool if you guys signed it once it comes up
Beyond that,
Here is the text of the bill:
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/bill/C-22/first-reading
It’s under review by the following committee:
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/SECU?parl=45&session=1
If you’ve done your reading and you have an informed opinion then you might want to tell them. Their opinion likely matters more directly than your own MP’s
Recommend reading security and privacy experts‘ opinions before voicing your own to an MP or committee member, it helps pinpoint everything that’s wrong with this bill
Tired of this “Big Brother” party man
Just learned about this bill. Mmm more surveillance.
Have my proton vpn installed already.
This why liberal govt wanted a majority to spy on us ?
Imo, the bill will pass but with amendments around the controversial Part 2 that will satisfy big tech and VPN companies. Very low chance this passes as is without amendments. And even if it does still good chance Part 2 is found unconstitutional.
Hot take, but where is the contradiction on VPNs? It sounds like the govt is encouraging VPNs as a security best practice (true) while advancing reforms that support criminal and national security investigations when authorized by law (valid and important objectives).
The privacy vs. security debate is all about tradeoffs. The govt has done a very bad job explaining the security side of the debate. I would invite folks to consider the [recent conclusions](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-rcmp-lawful-access-nsicop-1.7640075) of the [NSICOP report on lawful access](https://nsicop-cpsnr.ca/reports/rp-2025-09-15-sr/250915_NSICOP_Lawful_access_report.pdf):
>While noting legitimate privacy concerns, the report found organizations like the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and RCMP are hindered because they do not have the tools, policies and authorities in place to legally access communications during investigations.
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