*He added: “Helen Green wasn’t just burning calories at the gym, she was also peddling lies and our investigators caught up with her.*
I hope he put his sunglasses on, Horatio Caine-style, after that.
saltwatersunsets on
I don’t for a second condone what she’s done but I find it wild that she got prison time for this when there are examples of paedophiles producing indecent images of children and people who’ve caused death by dangerous driving who are spared jail time.
Fine-State8014 on
Haven’t seen anything like this for a while. When I was younger there was always someone who was supposed to be in a bad way doing hod carrying or something similar.
shysaver on
Do you need to provide like medical info when claming this stuff, presumably signed off by a doctor?
Whenever I read stories like these I always wonder how these people do it, is the system so shit they can just sail through every guardrail, or are they just really good actors who can hoodwink everyone
IgamOg on
Are we officially officially off migrants now and onto benefit claimants for far right outrage generation?
pickindim_kmet on
While I can’t say for this case, I think things will get dangerous for some people. I was told when applying for PIP to describe yourself on the worst day. Especially if you have a chronic illness and are fine some days.
I haven’t, but I could so easily have said on my worst days I cannot leave bed because of my health conditions. Would I then be getting jail time?
Bingo_the_Brainy_Pup on
„you can’t outrun the DWP.” yeah, they had fun with this one.
mittenkrusty on
Shocking when I know people who struggle to walk and have blue badges that are shamed as they „don’t look disabled“ and as they can walk a little even if they have to keep sitting down they must be lying then you get people like this.
Leather_Bug4270 on
She should have run with a black square over her face like the other runners.
Alyseeii on
Idk man this just smacks of paving the way to scrap PIP with sensational headlines and sentencing.
7 months is insane when there are literal rapists, and DV perpetrators, paedophiles etc getting away with community service and fines
On the other hand, my mum who is 60 years old and still working full time (no private pension as she has always worked minimum wage and what she did manage to save she has had to spend to fund her mobility needs) can barely walk without having an asthma attack but has been denied PIP every time.
The whole thing is insane.
sickoftwitter on
Every article that makes headlines rn is some variation of „disabled people bad“ „PIP claimants liars and criminals“ „autistic children or women don’t exist/don’t need SEN support“ yada yada—harks back to Benefits Street era of media.
The poor are to blame. Asylum seekers are to blame. Immigrants are to blame. Ethnic minorities, women, single mothers, ‚underclass’… How many groups can they narrow down to, split apart, or simply make up? All before looking at the wealthy who hoard excess money, exploit us over housing, evade taxes, abuse systems and vote against best interests of the average citizen.
Romado on
People like this is why the system is so rigorous. Even then you can still get away with things like this, it’s why DWP need a dedicated fraud surveillance team in the first place.
Because catching someone in the act is generally the only way to prove it.
Bagel-luigi on
Oh wow. I thought she was just having to repay it and get an extra fine. Didn’t know she was jailed.
Successful-League840 on
This is why the majority of the UK public think we are all scroungers and lazy scum!
It enrages me!
I have a chronic condition that is essentially an invisible disability. I’m bed ridden 2/3 days out of the week, I’m unable to walk unaided further than 50ft on a good day, I have difficulty washing, feeding myself… The list goes on.
I worked full time since I was 16 until my early 30s. I feel immense guilt every day for no longer being able to work.
Without PIP I couldn’t survive. I wouldn’t be able to feed myself, get to hospital appointments, pay for bills etc.
Then some lowlife scum like this who simple can’t be bothered to work. Who has no idea what suffering from a disability and all it’s side effects feels like makes everyone look like scum!
anonnymouse2025 on
Would be a very different kettle of fish if she’d actually had those conditions and used exercise to work her way back to fitness and stamina.
Fearsofaye on
We doctors deal with this shit constantly. It’s always them who spout hate online against medical services. A bunch of people not willing to work
Ok-Inflation4310 on
2 fold, dissuades people from doing the same thing and also gives encouragement for people to inform on potential fraudsters.
How many times have you heard people say they would inform on someone but it would be pointless as nothing would be done. This just proves that sometimes it’s worth it.
thetrivialstuff on
Fun fact – they spend more money to catch violations like this than it would take to just give money to everyone who said they needed it, including fraudsters.
TroublesomeFox on
In this case it’s certainly justified but these cases do genuinely cause me anxiety.
I have a dynamic disability and so what I can do varies. Sometimes I can climb mountains, other times I genuinely struggle with stairs. I was honest about this when applying for PIP but I do worry sometimes that someone will see one of my good days and decide that’s all I have.
Rough_Drop6 on
Imagine the multitude of others doing this. I’m glad there’s a harsh punishment for people like this. Most of us are slaving away paying tax for this crap.
dyedinthewoolScot on
So there’s a couple of things here, apart from her being a fraud,
a). She obviously told too many people what she was doing. If you’re committing a crime, you don’t tell anyone – loose lips sink ships n all that
b). You may as well hang a large neon flag on your case file by saying that you are basically housebound and can’t do anything. _Especially_ if it’s bullshit
reditsux77655 on
These kinds of scams and benefits thefts are super rare. Look it up if you don’t believe me!
articles like this are post and shared in an effort to appeal to your anger, your sense of ‚otherness‘. That individual bad actors are responsible for your problems.
When the reality is that oligarchs have enriched themselves while impoverishing average workers and citizens. That political rulers pit us against each other. Brown v. white. Disabled v. abled. Poor v. Middleclass.
It’s all a distraction to keep us from seeing the real problem.
RealLunarSlayer on
she said she couldn’t WALK
nothing about being able to run
Obvious_Yard_1846 on
How the hell does she get to claim for the conditions she was claiming for without a proper medical diagnosis/referral to back it up?
Christy427 on
She said she couldn’t walk, not that she couldn’t run
Simple_Discount6115 on
Listen to me, the biggest scams come from Albania, involving thefts from call centers that invite you to invest in bitcoin, gold, and cryptocurrency. There’s a call center in the Zogut i Zi area, where they pay 15,000 euros for state protection. Report them, trust me.
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*He added: “Helen Green wasn’t just burning calories at the gym, she was also peddling lies and our investigators caught up with her.*
I hope he put his sunglasses on, Horatio Caine-style, after that.
I don’t for a second condone what she’s done but I find it wild that she got prison time for this when there are examples of paedophiles producing indecent images of children and people who’ve caused death by dangerous driving who are spared jail time.
Haven’t seen anything like this for a while. When I was younger there was always someone who was supposed to be in a bad way doing hod carrying or something similar.
Do you need to provide like medical info when claming this stuff, presumably signed off by a doctor?
Whenever I read stories like these I always wonder how these people do it, is the system so shit they can just sail through every guardrail, or are they just really good actors who can hoodwink everyone
Are we officially officially off migrants now and onto benefit claimants for far right outrage generation?
While I can’t say for this case, I think things will get dangerous for some people. I was told when applying for PIP to describe yourself on the worst day. Especially if you have a chronic illness and are fine some days.
I haven’t, but I could so easily have said on my worst days I cannot leave bed because of my health conditions. Would I then be getting jail time?
„you can’t outrun the DWP.” yeah, they had fun with this one.
Shocking when I know people who struggle to walk and have blue badges that are shamed as they „don’t look disabled“ and as they can walk a little even if they have to keep sitting down they must be lying then you get people like this.
She should have run with a black square over her face like the other runners.
Idk man this just smacks of paving the way to scrap PIP with sensational headlines and sentencing.
7 months is insane when there are literal rapists, and DV perpetrators, paedophiles etc getting away with community service and fines
On the other hand, my mum who is 60 years old and still working full time (no private pension as she has always worked minimum wage and what she did manage to save she has had to spend to fund her mobility needs) can barely walk without having an asthma attack but has been denied PIP every time.
The whole thing is insane.
Every article that makes headlines rn is some variation of „disabled people bad“ „PIP claimants liars and criminals“ „autistic children or women don’t exist/don’t need SEN support“ yada yada—harks back to Benefits Street era of media.
The poor are to blame. Asylum seekers are to blame. Immigrants are to blame. Ethnic minorities, women, single mothers, ‚underclass’… How many groups can they narrow down to, split apart, or simply make up? All before looking at the wealthy who hoard excess money, exploit us over housing, evade taxes, abuse systems and vote against best interests of the average citizen.
People like this is why the system is so rigorous. Even then you can still get away with things like this, it’s why DWP need a dedicated fraud surveillance team in the first place.
Because catching someone in the act is generally the only way to prove it.
Oh wow. I thought she was just having to repay it and get an extra fine. Didn’t know she was jailed.
This is why the majority of the UK public think we are all scroungers and lazy scum!
It enrages me!
I have a chronic condition that is essentially an invisible disability. I’m bed ridden 2/3 days out of the week, I’m unable to walk unaided further than 50ft on a good day, I have difficulty washing, feeding myself… The list goes on.
I worked full time since I was 16 until my early 30s. I feel immense guilt every day for no longer being able to work.
Without PIP I couldn’t survive. I wouldn’t be able to feed myself, get to hospital appointments, pay for bills etc.
Then some lowlife scum like this who simple can’t be bothered to work. Who has no idea what suffering from a disability and all it’s side effects feels like makes everyone look like scum!
Would be a very different kettle of fish if she’d actually had those conditions and used exercise to work her way back to fitness and stamina.
We doctors deal with this shit constantly. It’s always them who spout hate online against medical services. A bunch of people not willing to work
2 fold, dissuades people from doing the same thing and also gives encouragement for people to inform on potential fraudsters.
How many times have you heard people say they would inform on someone but it would be pointless as nothing would be done. This just proves that sometimes it’s worth it.
Fun fact – they spend more money to catch violations like this than it would take to just give money to everyone who said they needed it, including fraudsters.
In this case it’s certainly justified but these cases do genuinely cause me anxiety.
I have a dynamic disability and so what I can do varies. Sometimes I can climb mountains, other times I genuinely struggle with stairs. I was honest about this when applying for PIP but I do worry sometimes that someone will see one of my good days and decide that’s all I have.
Imagine the multitude of others doing this. I’m glad there’s a harsh punishment for people like this. Most of us are slaving away paying tax for this crap.
So there’s a couple of things here, apart from her being a fraud,
a). She obviously told too many people what she was doing. If you’re committing a crime, you don’t tell anyone – loose lips sink ships n all that
b). You may as well hang a large neon flag on your case file by saying that you are basically housebound and can’t do anything. _Especially_ if it’s bullshit
These kinds of scams and benefits thefts are super rare. Look it up if you don’t believe me!
articles like this are post and shared in an effort to appeal to your anger, your sense of ‚otherness‘. That individual bad actors are responsible for your problems.
When the reality is that oligarchs have enriched themselves while impoverishing average workers and citizens. That political rulers pit us against each other. Brown v. white. Disabled v. abled. Poor v. Middleclass.
It’s all a distraction to keep us from seeing the real problem.
she said she couldn’t WALK
nothing about being able to run
How the hell does she get to claim for the conditions she was claiming for without a proper medical diagnosis/referral to back it up?
She said she couldn’t walk, not that she couldn’t run
Listen to me, the biggest scams come from Albania, involving thefts from call centers that invite you to invest in bitcoin, gold, and cryptocurrency. There’s a call center in the Zogut i Zi area, where they pay 15,000 euros for state protection. Report them, trust me.