How is this still ongoing? I almost feel conspiratorial, like even high profile cases of obvious wrongdoing take so long to prosecute that it’s deliberate foot dragging to set a general expectation of hopelessness on using the system to bring people to justice
NigeIFarage on
“A full-size replica of a section of the tower is also being built, costing £2 million, for court cases.” – that’s insane. I wonder who’s fronting the costs for that?
memb98 on
Please can we bring this in for corporate issues. As an example, instead of just fining water companies for ditching sewage into natural water, CEO down to the authorising manager is brought in on criminal charges.
No_Suit_9511 on
Call me a cynic but my guess is those cases will go nowhere. Too many people to accuse. Everyone is to blame, therefore no one is going to be held responsible.
Harilari on
Throw the CEO’s in Prison unless they can demonstrate that the responsibility lies further down the chain.
They want the big boy pay, they can take the big boy responsibility. Maybe explain to Papa Shareholder why sticking flammable cladding to a skyscraper is worse than a small increase in share price and dividends.
And it has to be Prison. Because a fine, is just a cost of doing business.
Flying_Wilson17 on
How has my home still got the flammable cladding on it!
How about we remove that!
This issue is far bigger than the 72 – 1000s still trapped living in these places and no one cares
Mario_is_paarthurnax on
Grenfell, whilst obviously an abject tragedy, has produced a Byzantine network of useless regulations. Why should leaseholders be charged exorbitant fees to hire compulsory waking watches that are, essentially, an extortion racket.
The quiet part that is rarely talked about is the sheer scale of illegal subletting and social housing abuse in the tower – which directly led to an overload on the mains electricity and prevented any accurate numbers of deaths and injuries for many, many years.
isntitobviousnow on
I hope, that with the time taken to seek a charging decision, this means the police have conducted a thorough investigation which will stand up in court.
Its the least the victims families and the survivors deserve.
Daphnis605 on
If anyone’s interested, That’s why I made this public inquiry dashboard to track the outcomes of inquiries like this
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How is this still ongoing? I almost feel conspiratorial, like even high profile cases of obvious wrongdoing take so long to prosecute that it’s deliberate foot dragging to set a general expectation of hopelessness on using the system to bring people to justice
“A full-size replica of a section of the tower is also being built, costing £2 million, for court cases.” – that’s insane. I wonder who’s fronting the costs for that?
Please can we bring this in for corporate issues. As an example, instead of just fining water companies for ditching sewage into natural water, CEO down to the authorising manager is brought in on criminal charges.
Call me a cynic but my guess is those cases will go nowhere. Too many people to accuse. Everyone is to blame, therefore no one is going to be held responsible.
Throw the CEO’s in Prison unless they can demonstrate that the responsibility lies further down the chain.
They want the big boy pay, they can take the big boy responsibility. Maybe explain to Papa Shareholder why sticking flammable cladding to a skyscraper is worse than a small increase in share price and dividends.
And it has to be Prison. Because a fine, is just a cost of doing business.
How has my home still got the flammable cladding on it!
How about we remove that!
This issue is far bigger than the 72 – 1000s still trapped living in these places and no one cares
Grenfell, whilst obviously an abject tragedy, has produced a Byzantine network of useless regulations. Why should leaseholders be charged exorbitant fees to hire compulsory waking watches that are, essentially, an extortion racket.
The quiet part that is rarely talked about is the sheer scale of illegal subletting and social housing abuse in the tower – which directly led to an overload on the mains electricity and prevented any accurate numbers of deaths and injuries for many, many years.
I hope, that with the time taken to seek a charging decision, this means the police have conducted a thorough investigation which will stand up in court.
Its the least the victims families and the survivors deserve.
If anyone’s interested, That’s why I made this public inquiry dashboard to track the outcomes of inquiries like this
https://daphnis605.github.io/uk_inquiry_dashboard/
The government has an official one too although they made it after I’d already started on mine
https://gtinquiry.dac.grid.civilservice.gov.uk/
Difference is mine relies on a variety of public sources, they get the inside scoop