What a weird d1ck looking shape across Germany and France …
CaptainCrunch145 on
I see we are being very loose with the word „controlled“
May as well mark Putins footsteps on the map too.
ImportanceLive9344 on
Can someone explain Djibuti and northern Italy?
BrainCelll on
The most interesting territory imo is Fort Ross in California. Though not sure if it was control or ownership of some sort (feel free to comment about it)
AussieBattler95 on
Forgot USA champ
belverk84 on
What about Fort Ross in California?
longdrivesinstapots on
„Controlled“ is an expansive term. They technically controlled parts of California for years too.
yzerman88 on
Strange that Washington DC was omitted from this map?
Russia has always been expansionist, it would be illustrative to compare this map to the original Muscovy. Yet England, France, Holland, Germany etc are branded as „colonialists“. You think the people in all those areas Russia expanded into welcomed them? You think they weren’t exploited? It would be one thing if Russia *stopped*, but they’re still doing it right this minute.
SOHONEYSAME on
map shows Russia controlling Thrace. (in Greece).
I don’t think they ever controlled it.
(Greece annexed it off Bulgaria few years following WW1, Bulgaria had been given it by Ottoman Empire to enter WW1, & before WW1, it was controlled by Empire for over half a millennium).
toj077 on
Russia also cotrolled Gotland in the Baltic Sea for 3 weeks in 1808.
lasaokey on
I wonder where is Fort Ross…
Public-Finger on
Muscovy
emphieishere on
Also worth mentioning, although for most of the time it was considered terra nullius, Svalbard/Spitzbergen/Шпицберген, which is currently under Norwegian Crown, had heavy Russian presence in XX century, with Russians being the majority on the archipelago, more than Norwegians or whoever else. Although, yeah, to label it on this map as controlled territory might be slightly disputable, I’m not that deep into the details, maybe there are some guys who know a bit more on this matter. But just as a cool story – here you go.
Before 20st century it was kinda a melting pot. Everybody was doing business here. Russians are disputing, as far as I’m concerned, that they in fact discovered the archipelago instead of Dutch. But again, you can read if you are interested
Sergey_Kutsuk on
If you colored Djibouti (which is wrong and excessive) than you have to color New Guinea too 🙂
deployant_100 on
I think it’s fair to say that they controlled most of afghanistan
emphieishere on
Also, could anybody tell the story behind the dot in Netherlands? Is it related to WWII? A bit confused here
thesixfingerman on
I don’t like this cause the Alaska that Russia controlled didn’t really look like that. They had settlements on the coast and never tried to go inland. Also, I’m fairly certain that the had outpost much further south than Alaska.
619C on
I think there are bases in the Antartic as well ?
NecessaryUnited9505 on
Hey, it even remembered the Lordship of Jever (the red dot near Hannover)
Edit: I am mistaken, it does not include Jever. A literal Lordship of Russia which was in Germany (unsure why, but it was).
LinkedAg on
Ring Road in Afghanistan. About the same amount the US controlled.
Ok-Tear7712 on
Wouldn’t have expected Russia to be included, I didn’t think they controlled that country
Traroten on
Yeah. And they want them back.
Possible_Humor_2834 on
Why not include Mongola if you’re going to include the Napoleonic campaign and Istanbul of all things?
regnull on
Time to shrink it back to the size of the duchy of Muscovy
GustavoistSoldier on
There is still a former Russian fort in California.
If Djibuti, then also Russian Fort Elizabeth.
If Manchuria, then also Mongolia.
+Svalbard
TheSamuil on
Imagine a world wherein Russia held Manchuria
Realistic-River-1941 on
Didn’t Russia reach California?
Maczok4 on
Idk If someone asked about this, but Paul I was ruler of Maltese Order and Malta. I think he was de facto controller of the island, you may correct me if I’m wrong.
Also, Peter III was ruler of Holstein IIRC, but it wasn’t the same country, so I won’t say anything 😅
Ok-Yard-7772 on
More like if it’s army has ever stepped on that soil
ghost_desu on
If Napoleonic era occupations count, so should the post ww2 soviet occupation zone
Living_Moment_1495 on
parts of california too no ?
testerololeczkomen on
And still they ended as poor shithole. Thats what we call fumble.
Brave-Two372 on
No white house? Krasnov is Russian.
AskMeAboutEveryThing on
r/MapsWithoutBornholm
Whoo_am_l on
I’ll tell you how Russian I am. I would not consider Suvorov’s Italian campaigns to be territorial control, maybe I am mistaken, but this is my opinion. About Djibouti, they’re idiots. Alexander III confirmed that the expedition had no official support.
Particular-Drive1454 on
Definitely not an imperialistic country btw.
Dazzling-Session-181 on
1. How about Spitzbergen?
2. Why is Afghanistan such a mess?
3. They controlled a bigger part of Iran somewhere during WW1 and WW2, You have noted the area controlled by the tsars of the 18th century (I think it was Peter and Elizabeth).
4. I assume in Eastern Europe we’re mostly talking of where the Soviet soldiers were during WW2, not later Soviet influence and troopes, because then All of Czechia and Eastern Germany should be in red. (Albania and Yugoslavia also for that matter). But again, I assume that you mean occupation during WW2.
5. You’ve missed the Ionian islands. Malta and Fort Elizabeth on Kauai are arguable.
6. Russia has controlled and had expeditions in nowadays Mongolia and Eastern Turkestan (Uyghuria)
7. Now if we consider Northern Italy as an area controlled by the Russians during Suvorov’s campaign, we should also consider their forces in Cuba during the Kuban missile crises, their troops of assistance in Angola, Mozambique, Ethiopia and Eritrea and other former socialist countries (Vietnam, North Korea etc.)
WorriedCaterpillar43 on
Full credit for Djibouti but only squiggle marks for Afghanistan?
dongeckoj on
Missing Mongolia and Xinjiang
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What a weird d1ck looking shape across Germany and France …
I see we are being very loose with the word „controlled“
May as well mark Putins footsteps on the map too.
Can someone explain Djibuti and northern Italy?
The most interesting territory imo is Fort Ross in California. Though not sure if it was control or ownership of some sort (feel free to comment about it)
Forgot USA champ
What about Fort Ross in California?
„Controlled“ is an expansive term. They technically controlled parts of California for years too.
Strange that Washington DC was omitted from this map?
That left side is so fucking far from russia
The soviets occupied Sinkiang/Xinjang in 1934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Xinjiang
Russia has always been expansionist, it would be illustrative to compare this map to the original Muscovy. Yet England, France, Holland, Germany etc are branded as „colonialists“. You think the people in all those areas Russia expanded into welcomed them? You think they weren’t exploited? It would be one thing if Russia *stopped*, but they’re still doing it right this minute.
map shows Russia controlling Thrace. (in Greece).
I don’t think they ever controlled it.
(Greece annexed it off Bulgaria few years following WW1, Bulgaria had been given it by Ottoman Empire to enter WW1, & before WW1, it was controlled by Empire for over half a millennium).
Russia also cotrolled Gotland in the Baltic Sea for 3 weeks in 1808.
I wonder where is Fort Ross…
Muscovy
Also worth mentioning, although for most of the time it was considered terra nullius, Svalbard/Spitzbergen/Шпицберген, which is currently under Norwegian Crown, had heavy Russian presence in XX century, with Russians being the majority on the archipelago, more than Norwegians or whoever else. Although, yeah, to label it on this map as controlled territory might be slightly disputable, I’m not that deep into the details, maybe there are some guys who know a bit more on this matter. But just as a cool story – here you go.
Before 20st century it was kinda a melting pot. Everybody was doing business here. Russians are disputing, as far as I’m concerned, that they in fact discovered the archipelago instead of Dutch. But again, you can read if you are interested
If you colored Djibouti (which is wrong and excessive) than you have to color New Guinea too 🙂
I think it’s fair to say that they controlled most of afghanistan
Also, could anybody tell the story behind the dot in Netherlands? Is it related to WWII? A bit confused here
I don’t like this cause the Alaska that Russia controlled didn’t really look like that. They had settlements on the coast and never tried to go inland. Also, I’m fairly certain that the had outpost much further south than Alaska.
I think there are bases in the Antartic as well ?
Hey, it even remembered the Lordship of Jever (the red dot near Hannover)
Edit: I am mistaken, it does not include Jever. A literal Lordship of Russia which was in Germany (unsure why, but it was).
Ring Road in Afghanistan. About the same amount the US controlled.
Wouldn’t have expected Russia to be included, I didn’t think they controlled that country
Yeah. And they want them back.
Why not include Mongola if you’re going to include the Napoleonic campaign and Istanbul of all things?
Time to shrink it back to the size of the duchy of Muscovy
There is still a former Russian fort in California.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Ross,_California
If Djibuti, then also Russian Fort Elizabeth.
If Manchuria, then also Mongolia.
+Svalbard
Imagine a world wherein Russia held Manchuria
Didn’t Russia reach California?
Idk If someone asked about this, but Paul I was ruler of Maltese Order and Malta. I think he was de facto controller of the island, you may correct me if I’m wrong.
Also, Peter III was ruler of Holstein IIRC, but it wasn’t the same country, so I won’t say anything 😅
More like if it’s army has ever stepped on that soil
If Napoleonic era occupations count, so should the post ww2 soviet occupation zone
parts of california too no ?
And still they ended as poor shithole. Thats what we call fumble.
No white house? Krasnov is Russian.
r/MapsWithoutBornholm
I’ll tell you how Russian I am. I would not consider Suvorov’s Italian campaigns to be territorial control, maybe I am mistaken, but this is my opinion. About Djibouti, they’re idiots. Alexander III confirmed that the expedition had no official support.
Definitely not an imperialistic country btw.
1. How about Spitzbergen?
2. Why is Afghanistan such a mess?
3. They controlled a bigger part of Iran somewhere during WW1 and WW2, You have noted the area controlled by the tsars of the 18th century (I think it was Peter and Elizabeth).
4. I assume in Eastern Europe we’re mostly talking of where the Soviet soldiers were during WW2, not later Soviet influence and troopes, because then All of Czechia and Eastern Germany should be in red. (Albania and Yugoslavia also for that matter). But again, I assume that you mean occupation during WW2.
5. You’ve missed the Ionian islands. Malta and Fort Elizabeth on Kauai are arguable.
6. Russia has controlled and had expeditions in nowadays Mongolia and Eastern Turkestan (Uyghuria)
7. Now if we consider Northern Italy as an area controlled by the Russians during Suvorov’s campaign, we should also consider their forces in Cuba during the Kuban missile crises, their troops of assistance in Angola, Mozambique, Ethiopia and Eritrea and other former socialist countries (Vietnam, North Korea etc.)
Full credit for Djibouti but only squiggle marks for Afghanistan?
Missing Mongolia and Xinjiang