Oh, and on what grounds? Defamation of a country? Countries have no standing to sue for such torts.
Or are they suing in an Israeli court? NYT can tell them to go get fucked.
Fluid_Drummer1665 on
The „dog rape“ story is as ridiculous as it is entirely uncorroborated.
LemurianLemurLad on
Can you defame a whole country? Interesting idea, but it seems unlikely to succeed as a concept.
Discovery will be interesting. Truth is an absolute defense against defamation, if this article is correct and claims “were corroborated with other witnesses, whenever possible, and with people the victims confided in – that includes family members and lawyers”, it seems unlikely to move forward at all.
This is basically just bluster, and functionally probably a SLAPP case.
Edit: fixed spelling on SLAPP. Stupid autocorrect.
killjairo on
They’re taking the trump route and sue … but people know it’s real , that’s why they scare them with “I’m suing you”
Sweet_Bridge_3001 on
Oh please, Streisand the shit out of this.
GK0NATO on
And rightfully so, the dog rape is completely unfounded, lacks any evidence and was just published as if it’s fact. NYT published a modern blood libel.
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GayGeekInLeather on
Can a country even bring a defamation/libel lawsuit against a newspaper?
M8753 on
How much longer will Netanyahu be in office? Israel’s reputation has gone down the drain, they used to say „oh oops did we do another war crime? We’ll do an internal investigation“ and now it’s like „talking about our crimes is blood libel“.
trbotwuk on
This is when you know it’s 100% true.
Straight out of the Trumpf playbook.
captain_decaption on
The last point in the article omits an important detail, which is that the NYT retracted some of the claims that Israel considered bringing a lawsuit over the last time. Of course the Guardian’s coverage of this is pretty biased, since the Guardian made similar claims, like having mathematical proof of starvation, set to the same profoundly disingenuous imagery of otherwise ill children.
Happy_Feet333 on
And the New York Times will write an article about it…
…saying it’s bad for Biden.
GroknikTheGreat on
I bet they won’t go further than claiming to sue
Burnandcount on
Discovery on this will be interesting.
MusicSole on
Based on comments seems like no one here understands what NYT’s role has been since its inception.
omniuni on
Good. They’ve been getting away with misleading stories for years, but this one was just absolutely absurd. And some people actually believed it.
Nono6768 on
If they’re gonna sue for libel they’ll have to prove what part of the article is a lie. Good luck.
Striking_Scientist68 on
Do they understand how discovery works?
anonskeptic5 on
Do they really want to hear from the witnesses?
KittySharkWithAHat on
Then whatever record the NYT had of this will show up as evidence in court.
logert777 on
Idk maybe don’t sexually abuse prisoners if you don’t want to be accused. We all know it’s happening. The IDF didn’t suddenly just start treating women or prisoners badly yesterday. I can confidently say sexually abusing prisoners isn’t a rare or new thing. You get thousands of men with guns who hate an entire culture and there’s going to be a percentage that uses it to sexually assault people. That last part applies to literally any military in any time period
sickofthisshit on
I guess Netanyahu wanted to issue a Tweet, but I doubt they will file a suit just to have it immediately dismissed. The reporters actually talked to two legal experts
> “There is no chance a US court would countenance such a case,” said David A Logan, a professor emeritus at the Roger Williams School of Law and media law expert.
> There is a legal consensus, he added, that the first amendment bars lawsuits or prosecutions of critics of government brought by the government.
> Mark Stephens, an expert in international media law, called the idea of Israel suing the Times “ludicrous”.
offtotheracesbacardi on
Can I sue israel for crimes against humanity?
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Oh, and on what grounds? Defamation of a country? Countries have no standing to sue for such torts.
Or are they suing in an Israeli court? NYT can tell them to go get fucked.
The „dog rape“ story is as ridiculous as it is entirely uncorroborated.
Can you defame a whole country? Interesting idea, but it seems unlikely to succeed as a concept.
Discovery will be interesting. Truth is an absolute defense against defamation, if this article is correct and claims “were corroborated with other witnesses, whenever possible, and with people the victims confided in – that includes family members and lawyers”, it seems unlikely to move forward at all.
This is basically just bluster, and functionally probably a SLAPP case.
Edit: fixed spelling on SLAPP. Stupid autocorrect.
They’re taking the trump route and sue … but people know it’s real , that’s why they scare them with “I’m suing you”
Oh please, Streisand the shit out of this.
And rightfully so, the dog rape is completely unfounded, lacks any evidence and was just published as if it’s fact. NYT published a modern blood libel.
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Can a country even bring a defamation/libel lawsuit against a newspaper?
How much longer will Netanyahu be in office? Israel’s reputation has gone down the drain, they used to say „oh oops did we do another war crime? We’ll do an internal investigation“ and now it’s like „talking about our crimes is blood libel“.
This is when you know it’s 100% true.
Straight out of the Trumpf playbook.
The last point in the article omits an important detail, which is that the NYT retracted some of the claims that Israel considered bringing a lawsuit over the last time. Of course the Guardian’s coverage of this is pretty biased, since the Guardian made similar claims, like having mathematical proof of starvation, set to the same profoundly disingenuous imagery of otherwise ill children.
And the New York Times will write an article about it…
…saying it’s bad for Biden.
I bet they won’t go further than claiming to sue
Discovery on this will be interesting.
Based on comments seems like no one here understands what NYT’s role has been since its inception.
Good. They’ve been getting away with misleading stories for years, but this one was just absolutely absurd. And some people actually believed it.
If they’re gonna sue for libel they’ll have to prove what part of the article is a lie. Good luck.
Do they understand how discovery works?
Do they really want to hear from the witnesses?
Then whatever record the NYT had of this will show up as evidence in court.
Idk maybe don’t sexually abuse prisoners if you don’t want to be accused. We all know it’s happening. The IDF didn’t suddenly just start treating women or prisoners badly yesterday. I can confidently say sexually abusing prisoners isn’t a rare or new thing. You get thousands of men with guns who hate an entire culture and there’s going to be a percentage that uses it to sexually assault people. That last part applies to literally any military in any time period
I guess Netanyahu wanted to issue a Tweet, but I doubt they will file a suit just to have it immediately dismissed. The reporters actually talked to two legal experts
> “There is no chance a US court would countenance such a case,” said David A Logan, a professor emeritus at the Roger Williams School of Law and media law expert.
> There is a legal consensus, he added, that the first amendment bars lawsuits or prosecutions of critics of government brought by the government.
> Mark Stephens, an expert in international media law, called the idea of Israel suing the Times “ludicrous”.
Can I sue israel for crimes against humanity?