Anything to hide the vascular dementia and stupid choices.
B-Z_B-S on
I feel like that headline symbolizes this administration’s *entire effect on the economy* over the past year-and-a-half.
BendicantMias on
> House Republicans passed a bill on Wednesday that would allow nationwide year-round sales of E15, a blend of gasoline mixed with 15 percent ethanol, also known as Unleaded 88—a product that refiners and retailers normally cannot sell in around half the country during the summer months due to air pollution concerns.
> Ethanol, a clear, colorless, volatile, and flammable alcohol produced by fermenting sugars from agricultural crops such as corn or sugarcane, generally reduces greenhouse gases, but E15 can produce more smog-forming emissions when it evaporates in heat.
> However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.
Basically this ’solution‘ to the price rise from the Iran war produces smog, burns faster than regular gasoline so you will have to fill up more often and pollutes at a higher rate than gasoline over a longer period of use.
Za_Lords_Guard_01 on
Heaven forbid they do something that would *actually* help, like voting to fucking defund Trumps useless war.
ranchoparksteve on
Not every engine will tolerate this blend, so Republicans are basically destroying cars for lack of a better idea. Brilliant!
Smaynard6000 on
This won’t help. E15 has worse fuel economy, so people will have to buy fuel more often and won’t save anything. Especially as fuel prices continue to rise.
The_Jolly_Dog on
Im no mechanic but isn’t this bad for most consumer grade engines to be running with higher ethanol %?
Fuck republicans for ok’ing this shit.
Wildpony03 on
For a party that hates big government they would rather pollute the environment than resign from their cushy jobs in congress.
Voderama on
This is a textbook republican response to a crisis
ruralcricket on
Sounds like a farm subsidy to me.
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S_A_R_K on
This is also a bailout for farmers
Skraelings on
Do NOT put E15 in any small engines you have.
Boats etc.
It WILL ruin them, also its illegal to do so.
or cars made before ~2001
If you can avoid it for even cars made after that? Do it if at all possible.
Brand by brand for that. BMW hasnt approved using it for models back to just the 2020MY.
edit: nissan is 2018 at the latest. and several others say not before 2013…
So just avoid it period.
UncontrolledInfo on
this will not affect the price at the pump. we will just be paying more for worse gas. this is entirely for oil companies who can get more out of the more expensive raw product. we will be paying for this … again.
questron64 on
Does this blend damage your car? Almost no one knows the answer to this question, they’ll just fill up and hope for the best. Again, doing far more damage than they are preventing to get a number lower, just like cutting gas tax. They are desperate, none of these things are solutions.
MrLurid on
„So what you’re saying is that we can dilute the gas AND charge the same?“ -Companies, when it comes into effect.
Lazy_Example4014 on
They raised the costs of fuel so much they are suspending the gas tax…. You can’t make this shit up. Trump and his cabinet are incompetent.
hopefulskeptik on
Republicans vote to waste fertilizer, fuel and water on gasoline instead of growing food
ChaseThoseDreams on
They’re trying to run out the clock and mask the bleeding so they can pass the blame to the Democrats. They know a blue wave is coming and know most people are dumb enough to forget this is all their fuck up.
Wizywig on
Ah, typical Republicans. Demolish the environment for 25 cents per gallon which will barely be noticeable as prices gonna spike to well above 5.
Also many cars cannot run E15. Which means they’ll have to pay for premium.
Amazing. What a terrible move.
Rough_Common6857 on
So they’ll just fuck up people’s vehicles just to save face.
Fate_Fire on
That’s nice of them to make it worse for the same price.
sugarlessdeathbear on
Buy more get less is pretty common for America these days.
UnguentSlather on
Yes, shrinkflate the gas! That’ll trick us!
Freddy-Borden on
Trump is a complete moron and a foreign asset, his cabinet is completely incompetent, and if you still support him you are in a cult.
D-Rich-88 on
So we can burn more of the higher pollutant gas but the price at the pump looks better, even though you’ll have to fill up more. Oh and it’ll probably trash your engine too.
HolyTythinEar on
Be cool if this country wasn’t being run by fucking piece of shit dumbasses
robman1123 on
Republicans fight green energy initiatives, making us reliant on fossil fuels. Republicans gain power and start wars in the Middle East, causing oil and gas prices to rise. Instead of looking at sustainable energy, ending the wars, Republicans vote to use a lower quality blend that will damage the environment. Republican voters will pay more at the pump, then a blind eye to the cost of the war, brag if they are paying 10 cents less at the pump while filling their cars with trash, and in November will vote Republican anyway? Is this a fair summary of we are at?
Tricky_Potatoe on
– Swiss cheese has gotten soo expensive. What do we do?
– Let’s make the holes bigger.
lifeat24fps on
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Your engine.
DrRealName on
Great so not only will gas remain expensive but it will also burn a lot faster meaning we have buy even more of it. Honestly I hate the conservative side of America so much. Everything they do fucks us all over. Can anyone give me just one example of anything good the conservatives have done for America in the last 50 years? I can’t think of a damn thing.
Hefty_Musician2402 on
E15 is also not recommended in small engines (generators, motorcycles, lawn mowers) and not for any car before 2003.
It’s also harder on the internals of the engine and can cause premature wear! Yay!
DoomSchroller on
Cool. The seals in our engines will erode twice as fast with all the ethanol. We’ll get worse mileage, and still be paying $4+ per gallon.
AuditAndHax on
Ethanol has about 33% less energy potential than pure gasoline.
In a 30MPG car, uncut gas would give you 30MPG.
E10 gas (90% gas, 10% ethanol) would get 29MPG.
E15 gas (85% gas, 15% ethanol) would get 28.5MPG.
It’s not a significant drop in energy because it’s only increasing by 5% of the mix.
However, according to the article, E15 can cost 25% less than ethanol-free fuel. So the tradeoff is 30MPG for $4.50/gal or 28MPG for $3.37/gal but a lot more summertime smog.
Cheap? Yes. Awful for the environment and human lungs? Also yes!
Radiant-Month-1168 on
Ethanol is more expensive. This does nothing but gives welfare to corn growers. So dumb.
Also almost no pumps are certified for E15 so 99% of pumps will still be E10.
They voted for a bill that does nothing.
Crafty_Ish1973 on
Because destroying car engines is a better solution than just ending Trump’s stupid fucking war.
Republicans are useless.
kismetkissed on
Or you could just stop the war you RECALCITRANT FUCKING TODDLERS
Doctor_Freeeeeman on
It’s a good thing America is investing so heavily in renewables to blunt the impact of…oh, we stopped doing that last year?
fr0z3nf1r3 on
Buy more, worse fuel, at the same price instead of paying more per gallon.
Genius.
Maybe just end the war you started instead?
grottoli4 on
When do we start diluting with Mountain Dew?
GeekyGamer49 on
Can’t…they literally end the war today? Congress declares war. Congress funds the military. If Congress votes to end the war and stops paying the military until all combat forces leave…that’s it. Gas goes back to normal and we’re spending less on blood and treasure.
OpportunityFancy3225 on
Folks this is your reminder that energy will never be cheaper. War and data centers are ruining us.
If you haven’t yet, check into how to make your home as energy efficient as possible. Electrify it. Get solar panels. Switch to an EV.
DutchAngel on
„However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.“
So basically they’re not fixing anything
Quiet-Thanks-9486 on
This hilarious bit is buried at the end of the article:
„while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.“
So they want to lower the price per gallon by lowering the miles per gallon.
It’s *exactly* like cereal companies reducing the amount in each box while keeping the box size the same. It’s shrinkflation applied to gas.
Life-Sherbet-7942 on
Doesn’t diluting fuel harm your vehicle???
Mayor_Mcnugget on
Trump is the fucking swamp.
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Anything to hide the vascular dementia and stupid choices.
I feel like that headline symbolizes this administration’s *entire effect on the economy* over the past year-and-a-half.
> House Republicans passed a bill on Wednesday that would allow nationwide year-round sales of E15, a blend of gasoline mixed with 15 percent ethanol, also known as Unleaded 88—a product that refiners and retailers normally cannot sell in around half the country during the summer months due to air pollution concerns.
> Ethanol, a clear, colorless, volatile, and flammable alcohol produced by fermenting sugars from agricultural crops such as corn or sugarcane, generally reduces greenhouse gases, but E15 can produce more smog-forming emissions when it evaporates in heat.
> However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.
Basically this ’solution‘ to the price rise from the Iran war produces smog, burns faster than regular gasoline so you will have to fill up more often and pollutes at a higher rate than gasoline over a longer period of use.
Heaven forbid they do something that would *actually* help, like voting to fucking defund Trumps useless war.
Not every engine will tolerate this blend, so Republicans are basically destroying cars for lack of a better idea. Brilliant!
This won’t help. E15 has worse fuel economy, so people will have to buy fuel more often and won’t save anything. Especially as fuel prices continue to rise.
Im no mechanic but isn’t this bad for most consumer grade engines to be running with higher ethanol %?
Fuck republicans for ok’ing this shit.
For a party that hates big government they would rather pollute the environment than resign from their cushy jobs in congress.
This is a textbook republican response to a crisis
Sounds like a farm subsidy to me.
[deleted]
This is also a bailout for farmers
Do NOT put E15 in any small engines you have.
Boats etc.
It WILL ruin them, also its illegal to do so.
or cars made before ~2001
If you can avoid it for even cars made after that? Do it if at all possible.
Brand by brand for that. BMW hasnt approved using it for models back to just the 2020MY.
edit: nissan is 2018 at the latest. and several others say not before 2013…
So just avoid it period.
this will not affect the price at the pump. we will just be paying more for worse gas. this is entirely for oil companies who can get more out of the more expensive raw product. we will be paying for this … again.
Does this blend damage your car? Almost no one knows the answer to this question, they’ll just fill up and hope for the best. Again, doing far more damage than they are preventing to get a number lower, just like cutting gas tax. They are desperate, none of these things are solutions.
„So what you’re saying is that we can dilute the gas AND charge the same?“ -Companies, when it comes into effect.
They raised the costs of fuel so much they are suspending the gas tax…. You can’t make this shit up. Trump and his cabinet are incompetent.
Republicans vote to waste fertilizer, fuel and water on gasoline instead of growing food
They’re trying to run out the clock and mask the bleeding so they can pass the blame to the Democrats. They know a blue wave is coming and know most people are dumb enough to forget this is all their fuck up.
Ah, typical Republicans. Demolish the environment for 25 cents per gallon which will barely be noticeable as prices gonna spike to well above 5.
Also many cars cannot run E15. Which means they’ll have to pay for premium.
Amazing. What a terrible move.
So they’ll just fuck up people’s vehicles just to save face.
That’s nice of them to make it worse for the same price.
Buy more get less is pretty common for America these days.
Yes, shrinkflate the gas! That’ll trick us!
Trump is a complete moron and a foreign asset, his cabinet is completely incompetent, and if you still support him you are in a cult.
So we can burn more of the higher pollutant gas but the price at the pump looks better, even though you’ll have to fill up more. Oh and it’ll probably trash your engine too.
Be cool if this country wasn’t being run by fucking piece of shit dumbasses
Republicans fight green energy initiatives, making us reliant on fossil fuels. Republicans gain power and start wars in the Middle East, causing oil and gas prices to rise. Instead of looking at sustainable energy, ending the wars, Republicans vote to use a lower quality blend that will damage the environment. Republican voters will pay more at the pump, then a blind eye to the cost of the war, brag if they are paying 10 cents less at the pump while filling their cars with trash, and in November will vote Republican anyway? Is this a fair summary of we are at?
– Swiss cheese has gotten soo expensive. What do we do?
– Let’s make the holes bigger.
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Your engine.
Great so not only will gas remain expensive but it will also burn a lot faster meaning we have buy even more of it. Honestly I hate the conservative side of America so much. Everything they do fucks us all over. Can anyone give me just one example of anything good the conservatives have done for America in the last 50 years? I can’t think of a damn thing.
E15 is also not recommended in small engines (generators, motorcycles, lawn mowers) and not for any car before 2003.
It’s also harder on the internals of the engine and can cause premature wear! Yay!
Cool. The seals in our engines will erode twice as fast with all the ethanol. We’ll get worse mileage, and still be paying $4+ per gallon.
Ethanol has about 33% less energy potential than pure gasoline.
In a 30MPG car, uncut gas would give you 30MPG.
E10 gas (90% gas, 10% ethanol) would get 29MPG.
E15 gas (85% gas, 15% ethanol) would get 28.5MPG.
It’s not a significant drop in energy because it’s only increasing by 5% of the mix.
However, according to the article, E15 can cost 25% less than ethanol-free fuel. So the tradeoff is 30MPG for $4.50/gal or 28MPG for $3.37/gal but a lot more summertime smog.
Cheap? Yes. Awful for the environment and human lungs? Also yes!
Ethanol is more expensive. This does nothing but gives welfare to corn growers. So dumb.
Also almost no pumps are certified for E15 so 99% of pumps will still be E10.
They voted for a bill that does nothing.
Because destroying car engines is a better solution than just ending Trump’s stupid fucking war.
Republicans are useless.
Or you could just stop the war you RECALCITRANT FUCKING TODDLERS
It’s a good thing America is investing so heavily in renewables to blunt the impact of…oh, we stopped doing that last year?
Buy more, worse fuel, at the same price instead of paying more per gallon.
Genius.
Maybe just end the war you started instead?
When do we start diluting with Mountain Dew?
Can’t…they literally end the war today? Congress declares war. Congress funds the military. If Congress votes to end the war and stops paying the military until all combat forces leave…that’s it. Gas goes back to normal and we’re spending less on blood and treasure.
Folks this is your reminder that energy will never be cheaper. War and data centers are ruining us.
If you haven’t yet, check into how to make your home as energy efficient as possible. Electrify it. Get solar panels. Switch to an EV.
„However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.“
So basically they’re not fixing anything
This hilarious bit is buried at the end of the article:
„while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.“
So they want to lower the price per gallon by lowering the miles per gallon.
It’s *exactly* like cereal companies reducing the amount in each box while keeping the box size the same. It’s shrinkflation applied to gas.
Doesn’t diluting fuel harm your vehicle???
Trump is the fucking swamp.