“Holland” is only about 17% of the Netherlands by area, but the name became shorthand for the whole country internationally.
Toastaexperience on
It’s all Dutch to me
Jumpy-Boysenberry153 on
Considering that Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and the Hague are all in North or South Holland, it makes sense that it would become synonymous. The rest of the country can’t compete
rly_weird_guy on
In my language the Netherlands translates to Holland, North Holland translates to North Holland Province
Your country is wrong
SetObvious7411 on
As a Dutch person not from Holland: I don’t like being called Hollander, but I get that us taking over every major sports event as a hive mind clad in orange, chanting „Hup Holland Hup“ is sending out mixed messages
orangesfwr on
Then who are the Dutch?! 👨☕️☕️📰👨
Honest_Mushroom5133 on
In Serbian language, we do not even have a word for the ‚**Netherlands**‘, it is called ‚**Holandija**‘ in Serbian, which is basically ‚**Holland**‘, so its **country of Holland** in Serbian language.
lendlevtaldrik on
Yes we get that Holland is originally a region of the Netherlands, but plenty of countries are named after specific regions in many languages.
Estonians and Finns call Germany after Saxony and Sweden after the Roslagen region, we all call Latvia after the Latgale region, Latvians call Estonia after the Ugandi region, Finns call Estonia after the Viru region, most languages call Sweden after the Svealand region and Switzerland after the Schwyz region etc.
OzzieOxborrow on
Except when our national football team is playing. Then we sing: ‚Hup Holland Hup‘.
Sticky-Wicked on
There’s no such thing as ‘Holland’ anymore. It doesn’t exist officially nor legally. But it does have two provinces (north and south Holland) as depicted in the picture.
Throwawayhair66392 on
Holland is still a colloquialism for the entire county.
Coolbluegatoradeyumm on
Ok so this is an interesting fact that I’m shocked I’ve never seen before
Truelz on
Meh, as long as the Dutch national tourism board uses [holland.com](http://holland.com) to promote the entire Netherlands I’ll continue calling it Holland thank you very much
tatincasco on
how this started and popularized? in my country we call them „holanda“ in spanish, but in text books always was „paises bajos“ (netherlands)
Unhappy_Weakness881 on
Theres also a difference between the Kingdom of the Netherlands and the constituent country. The kingdom is the actual sovereign state and consists of Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten. The constituent country consists of the European mainland, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba
Laughing_Orange on
Most people who have been to the Netherlands never left Holland.
BadHairDayToday on
I’m Dutch: this is pedantic whiny nonsense. Dutch football supporters also yell Holland. It’s just a synonym for the Netherlands. A shorter one.
No one saying Holland has ever meant the two provinces. Just like someone saying Americans doesn’t mean people from the Americas. That one is actually way more annoying/confusing because what do you even call people from the Americas?
MyDadsGlassesCase on
So everytime I’ve mistakenly said „I’m going to Holland“ when I visit Amsetrdam, I’ve actually been right?
kamikazekaktus on
Just an example of pars pro toto just like referring to Britain as England or in the past saying Russia when referring to the Soviet Union
ttombombadillo on
Russians used to refer to Netherlands as „Gollandiya“ more than „Niderlandy“, which was a more official way of speaking. Now people tend to say „Niderlandy“ more frequently, because it is called so in VPN servers lists. The Dutch language is still called „Gollandskiy“ by everyone, except Wikipedia, news and legal documents, where it is called „Niderlandskiy“
Ijizzdinyourchalk on
Okay, I had to turn 34 to figure that out. But in my defense, in Switzerland everyone says “Holland”; “Niederlande” is standard German.
Dreadedsemi on
How about wholeland?
Malheus on
Look, two maps of Holland
mauriciofelippe on
Holanda
MyPigWhistles on
Many countries are named [pars pro toto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto) in foreign languages, but I only ever see Dutch people making a fuzz about it. I never saw a post like „Stop calling Germany *Allemagne*, that’s only referring to the south west!“ or „Stop saying *Saksamaa*, that’s only referring to the state of Saxony!“
Andromeda321 on
I lived in the Netherlands for five years and married a Dutchman. I’ve been conditioned to not say Holland though because if you were saying a story about something that took place in Holland (where the majority of the Dutch live and where most famous major cities are) some Dutchman will always superciliously tell you “you know Holland isn’t the entirety of the Netherlands…”
Sigh!
Extreme-Shopping74 on
Idc it’s all Holland
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“Holland” is only about 17% of the Netherlands by area, but the name became shorthand for the whole country internationally.
It’s all Dutch to me
Considering that Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and the Hague are all in North or South Holland, it makes sense that it would become synonymous. The rest of the country can’t compete
In my language the Netherlands translates to Holland, North Holland translates to North Holland Province
Your country is wrong
As a Dutch person not from Holland: I don’t like being called Hollander, but I get that us taking over every major sports event as a hive mind clad in orange, chanting „Hup Holland Hup“ is sending out mixed messages
Then who are the Dutch?! 👨☕️☕️📰👨
In Serbian language, we do not even have a word for the ‚**Netherlands**‘, it is called ‚**Holandija**‘ in Serbian, which is basically ‚**Holland**‘, so its **country of Holland** in Serbian language.
Yes we get that Holland is originally a region of the Netherlands, but plenty of countries are named after specific regions in many languages.
Estonians and Finns call Germany after Saxony and Sweden after the Roslagen region, we all call Latvia after the Latgale region, Latvians call Estonia after the Ugandi region, Finns call Estonia after the Viru region, most languages call Sweden after the Svealand region and Switzerland after the Schwyz region etc.
Except when our national football team is playing. Then we sing: ‚Hup Holland Hup‘.
There’s no such thing as ‘Holland’ anymore. It doesn’t exist officially nor legally. But it does have two provinces (north and south Holland) as depicted in the picture.
Holland is still a colloquialism for the entire county.
Ok so this is an interesting fact that I’m shocked I’ve never seen before
Meh, as long as the Dutch national tourism board uses [holland.com](http://holland.com) to promote the entire Netherlands I’ll continue calling it Holland thank you very much
how this started and popularized? in my country we call them „holanda“ in spanish, but in text books always was „paises bajos“ (netherlands)
Theres also a difference between the Kingdom of the Netherlands and the constituent country. The kingdom is the actual sovereign state and consists of Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten. The constituent country consists of the European mainland, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba
Most people who have been to the Netherlands never left Holland.
I’m Dutch: this is pedantic whiny nonsense. Dutch football supporters also yell Holland. It’s just a synonym for the Netherlands. A shorter one.
No one saying Holland has ever meant the two provinces. Just like someone saying Americans doesn’t mean people from the Americas. That one is actually way more annoying/confusing because what do you even call people from the Americas?
So everytime I’ve mistakenly said „I’m going to Holland“ when I visit Amsetrdam, I’ve actually been right?
Just an example of pars pro toto just like referring to Britain as England or in the past saying Russia when referring to the Soviet Union
Russians used to refer to Netherlands as „Gollandiya“ more than „Niderlandy“, which was a more official way of speaking. Now people tend to say „Niderlandy“ more frequently, because it is called so in VPN servers lists. The Dutch language is still called „Gollandskiy“ by everyone, except Wikipedia, news and legal documents, where it is called „Niderlandskiy“
Okay, I had to turn 34 to figure that out. But in my defense, in Switzerland everyone says “Holland”; “Niederlande” is standard German.
How about wholeland?
Look, two maps of Holland
Holanda
Many countries are named [pars pro toto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto) in foreign languages, but I only ever see Dutch people making a fuzz about it. I never saw a post like „Stop calling Germany *Allemagne*, that’s only referring to the south west!“ or „Stop saying *Saksamaa*, that’s only referring to the state of Saxony!“
I lived in the Netherlands for five years and married a Dutchman. I’ve been conditioned to not say Holland though because if you were saying a story about something that took place in Holland (where the majority of the Dutch live and where most famous major cities are) some Dutchman will always superciliously tell you “you know Holland isn’t the entirety of the Netherlands…”
Sigh!
Idc it’s all Holland