I think if you get something from negligence you gotta be paying the ohip bill after treatment is done. I know that is an unpopular opinion
Ex: skydiving injury, missing measles shot, etc.
PrairieHaze on
Part of that is the fact that we have a new virus, so we have instead of two annual viruses with RSV and flu, we now have COVID-19 as well.”Razak added that all three illnesses are “essentially vaccine preventable for severe illness.”“So if you get a vaccine, you still may get sick, but the point is it’s severe enough to end up in hospital,” he said. “Many of these people, unfortunately, who do end up in hospital are not vaccinated, and I think that’s where the big gap is.”
-from the article
interesting that these are often vaccines people skip out on even if they have their other vaccinations up to date.
I feel like access is annoying for people who work full-time and sometimes doctors offices get the vaccines very late in season
JadeLens on
Thanks Convoy crowd… stick to just trying to separate Alberta and leave the rest of us alone.
slashthepowder on
Something needs to change, maybe something like transplant lists in some countries where you are triaged based on past vaccinations.
GiveUpAndDye on
And the government cuts funds to health care. Maybe thats their way of trying to tell people to stay away from the hospital unless you really need to.
Apprehensive_Idea758 on
Seriously there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carelessness,it’s time for people to wake up and get themselves and their kids vaccinated,enough is enough, smarten up people.
hardk7 on
It would be extremely controversial and likely would be legally challenged if any province were to make the decision that if you become hospitalized with a disease for which there is a vaccine available that you would have to pay for some portion of the treatment. So the only legislative recourse here is to mandate vaccination for everyone, which likely would also be legally challenged. So really the only option is the difficult path – educating people on the safety and benefit of vaccines, warning against the repercussions of severe disease and danger to others if unvaccinated, and making them easily accessible. Flu and Covid vaccines are already extremely easy to access in most places. The key is getting that messaging out through channels people actually hear/read/see. Health authorities can perhaps improve that, but the anti-vax crowd, which has grown post COVID, is probably largely unpersuadable at this point. But you have to continue educating so that there’s a constant push back to the anti-vax movement and messaging so more people don’t end up distrustful of vaccines.
oneonus on
If you’re not vaccinated due to personal reasons, you’re triaged at bottom of the list at hospital.
And you pay out of pocket, no coverage from government.
SalsaForte on
Imagine, if you would receive a bill if you’d need medical care because you got infected because you didn’t got your shot.
Free to not get a shot, but we are free to charge you.
Interesting_Spare on
Which group is the least vaccinated?
Morzana on
I jumped through so many hoops to get my kid vaccinated after she had a complication with one of the vaccines
I am so happy she is protected! I would walk through hell and back to know my children are safe from preventable diseases.
Thank you to everyone from the researchers to those that promote vaccines.
I understand that nothing in this life is without risk but we are so lucky to be able to not experience so many horrible diseases. I do not and will never understand people that choose to gamble with their children’s lives.
Either-Banana-7323 on
Stop letting them use up medical resources lol
RM_r_us on
If they had said whooping cough, measles, chicken pox, shingles then yes however…
*vaccine-preventable respiratory illnesses such as influenza, RSV and COVID-19*
those vaccines do not prevent transmission. They are meant to reduce severe outcomes, which *does* reduce the burden on the medical system, and this is what the article should focus on.
Thannab on
When a doctor warns you, it’s already too late.
v1035RoadTrip on
I don’t understand why these people are even going to hospitals. They should continue to follow their own medical expertise and face the natural ends.
TheBlackRonin505 on
So stop treating them.
They chose not to protect themselves, what happens to them is on them.
yukonnut on
Wow, not sure anyone could have seen that one coming. Duuhhh.
And here is the only argument that I can possibly see against universal healthcare. You have to cover everyone. Can’t we just nominate them for a Darwin Award and give them a prize.
Dawna420 on
Definitely not
Goodestguy2025 on
So, if you get an obesity related illness, then you must pay, or not be treated. Same shit…
Maple_Moose_14 on
When you wish this was a Beaverton article. That’s how far we’ve sunk…
Pitzy0 on
Thats it. I want a social score for Healthcare access.
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I think if you get something from negligence you gotta be paying the ohip bill after treatment is done. I know that is an unpopular opinion
Ex: skydiving injury, missing measles shot, etc.
Part of that is the fact that we have a new virus, so we have instead of two annual viruses with RSV and flu, we now have COVID-19 as well.”Razak added that all three illnesses are “essentially vaccine preventable for severe illness.”“So if you get a vaccine, you still may get sick, but the point is it’s severe enough to end up in hospital,” he said. “Many of these people, unfortunately, who do end up in hospital are not vaccinated, and I think that’s where the big gap is.”
-from the article
interesting that these are often vaccines people skip out on even if they have their other vaccinations up to date.
I feel like access is annoying for people who work full-time and sometimes doctors offices get the vaccines very late in season
Thanks Convoy crowd… stick to just trying to separate Alberta and leave the rest of us alone.
Something needs to change, maybe something like transplant lists in some countries where you are triaged based on past vaccinations.
And the government cuts funds to health care. Maybe thats their way of trying to tell people to stay away from the hospital unless you really need to.
Seriously there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of carelessness,it’s time for people to wake up and get themselves and their kids vaccinated,enough is enough, smarten up people.
It would be extremely controversial and likely would be legally challenged if any province were to make the decision that if you become hospitalized with a disease for which there is a vaccine available that you would have to pay for some portion of the treatment. So the only legislative recourse here is to mandate vaccination for everyone, which likely would also be legally challenged. So really the only option is the difficult path – educating people on the safety and benefit of vaccines, warning against the repercussions of severe disease and danger to others if unvaccinated, and making them easily accessible. Flu and Covid vaccines are already extremely easy to access in most places. The key is getting that messaging out through channels people actually hear/read/see. Health authorities can perhaps improve that, but the anti-vax crowd, which has grown post COVID, is probably largely unpersuadable at this point. But you have to continue educating so that there’s a constant push back to the anti-vax movement and messaging so more people don’t end up distrustful of vaccines.
If you’re not vaccinated due to personal reasons, you’re triaged at bottom of the list at hospital.
And you pay out of pocket, no coverage from government.
Imagine, if you would receive a bill if you’d need medical care because you got infected because you didn’t got your shot.
Free to not get a shot, but we are free to charge you.
Which group is the least vaccinated?
I jumped through so many hoops to get my kid vaccinated after she had a complication with one of the vaccines
I am so happy she is protected! I would walk through hell and back to know my children are safe from preventable diseases.
Thank you to everyone from the researchers to those that promote vaccines.
I understand that nothing in this life is without risk but we are so lucky to be able to not experience so many horrible diseases. I do not and will never understand people that choose to gamble with their children’s lives.
Stop letting them use up medical resources lol
If they had said whooping cough, measles, chicken pox, shingles then yes however…
*vaccine-preventable respiratory illnesses such as influenza, RSV and COVID-19*
those vaccines do not prevent transmission. They are meant to reduce severe outcomes, which *does* reduce the burden on the medical system, and this is what the article should focus on.
When a doctor warns you, it’s already too late.
I don’t understand why these people are even going to hospitals. They should continue to follow their own medical expertise and face the natural ends.
So stop treating them.
They chose not to protect themselves, what happens to them is on them.
Wow, not sure anyone could have seen that one coming. Duuhhh.
And here is the only argument that I can possibly see against universal healthcare. You have to cover everyone. Can’t we just nominate them for a Darwin Award and give them a prize.
Definitely not
So, if you get an obesity related illness, then you must pay, or not be treated. Same shit…
When you wish this was a Beaverton article. That’s how far we’ve sunk…
Thats it. I want a social score for Healthcare access.