Hallo zusammen
Eine seltsam spezifische Frage, aber ich kenne jetzt mehrere Leute, die rund 92.000 pro Jahr verdienen, obwohl sie nur eine IT-Ausbildung haben und in "Entwerfen" Netzwerkinfrastrukturen oder andere IT-Strukturen. Dann bin ich derjenige, der dieses Jahr seinen Bachelor in Elektrotechnik abschließt, 5 Jahre lang 60 % gearbeitet hat, während ich mein Studium absolvierte und mit etwa 5 Punkten abschloss, und ich musste sogar kämpfen, um ein Gehalt von 90.000 pro Jahr zu bekommen. Alle 3 Unternehmen, bei denen ich mich beworben habe, wollten mich, aber 2 von ihnen wollten etwa 80.000 zahlen, obwohl alle 3 große Unternehmen im Kanton Zürich sind. Ein Blick auf einen Gehaltsrechner https://www.lohn-sgb.ch der Median mit 3 Jahren Erfahrung (wegen der Teilzeitarbeit hatte ich nur 3 und nicht 5) sollte mein Medianeinkommen bei 109.000 liegen …
Sollte ich wählerischer sein und mich einfach bewerben, bis mir jemand mehr zahlt? Wird Elektrotechnik im Allgemeinen einfach schlechter bezahlt? Muss ich einfach von Job zu Job hüpfen, indem ich in Unternehmen gehe, die mir nicht wirklich gefallen, und nach 2 Jahren wechsle?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/1d07yvw/does_it_engineering_in_switzerland_really_pay/
Von kappi1997
8 Kommentare
Do you speak swiss-german?
Yup IT get paid dummy much to do less challenging work.
IT salaries are notoriously hard to estimate because your average IT networking dude may very well be a specialist with 20 certifications in the relevant things who can do stuff few others can. Or they may simply work at a helpdesk for 6k a month and not do more than tell others to restart their laptops.
Desinging IT infrastructure is qualified work with specialized skills and a rather high importance in many companies. Not every highly specialized skill needs a uni degree.
Yes, my background is electronic engineering and I switched to software because it pays waaaaay better. I have other friends doing the same unfortunately 🤷♀️
First of, don’t compare IT salaries to the „old“ engineering salaries or you never will be happy. If you like to work in IT start doing so, your degree is not stopping you. I know lots of electrical engineers that work IT.
Based on your Nickname i assume your are born 1997 and are therefore „only“ 27 years old. You have, if i understood correctly, 0 years of work experience as engineer if you just finished degree so your 3 years of experience „don’t count“. I am not saying i agree with this view, but most swiss employers will look at those 2 things and will offer you around what you got offered. I had the same problem, same age, 3 years experience in the roles i was applying for, same results. Just 10 years ago (and mechanical engineer).
You will find it very hard to get >100k before 30 in most companies that are not Pharma, IT, or maybe Banks with bonuses.
I would take the 90k, try to do projects / tasks that get you noticed inside the company and if they dont give you 5% raise each year start search after 2 years, if they do look around after 3 years.
I would not care too much about the salary in the first job after uni. Find a company where you can learn (assuming that you can pay your expenses). Join a company that lets you explore engineering, project management, team leder (deputy), sales, whatever. After 2-3 years you you assess the situation and choose a career path. Maybe it is engineering, maybe you want to pivot. Flexibility and broad skills are required to build a future proof career.
Salary will increase substantially in the first years. Aim to earn 30-100 % in the first 5-10 years. Of the group of friends I studied with, nobody increased by less than 30 %. Most are well above 50 %.Then the first two years do not matter too much in terms of money.
If you speak German please read: Geheime Tricks für mehr Gehalt by Martin Wehrle. A great book about salary.
Join Swiss Engineering or take part in their yearly salary study to gain free access to real salary numbers.
Average IT support person at most banks here are making like 110k-150k depending on tenor