Pretty sure he didn’t have anything to do with that order.. as well as his QC counterpart…
SaltyMittens2 on
Can’t wait to hear how this is a terrible thing for Canada and how much better things would be if we just submit to the Epstein administration.
Ready_Progress6714 on
Carney is coming through. So glad we finally have a legitimate PM.
Strict_Common6871 on
>However, Airbus has faced production challenges at its Montreal-area plant, struggling to churn out more than seven jets per month on average — half of the threshold needed to break even.
Glad to see people happy they can now subsidize airplanes for Malaysia
Zephyr104 on
Now if only the c series could be wrestled back into Canadian hands.
sayinmer on
now think about this
if we had kept Bombardier Cseries going, these profits could have stayed in Canada
Livid_Page_7244 on
It is good for Québec, but ultimately does not help Canada as much as they are saying.
Trump already has tariffs on raw materials AND finished aviation products.
Trump has also threatened to not recognize/essentially decommission aircraft not made at the Alabama factory over Mirabel, in America.
Canada is also going the EDC Economic Development Canada route . So effectively Canada is lending Malaysia money to buy the end product, while Canada incurs the added costs of the tariffs.
The order is huge, years of employment for Quebec/Canadians, and all the positive ripple effects mentioned; post secondary, trades growth, creating new jobs, etc.
I see it as a win, but I don’t see huge profit for Canada in the deal.
Respectfully, if my Math is off or I’m incorrect on the premise, I’m open to listening.
Edit: Thanks for the respectful dialogue.
For context:
The average life of new aircraft the airline uses is seven or eight years and then the companies start to sell on the secondary market.
The largest aviation market is the U.S.
Trump already threatened back at the end of January to do this.
If it happened, the FAA would not honour the Canadian certification and American carriers couldn’t use Canadian planes.
Again, it’s a solid deal for workers and stability, I’m just questioning the profitability.
It doesn’t have to be this “for or against” mentally when discussing things.
I mentioned the deal was huge for workers/Quebec/Canada and the positive outcomes.
Any-Following6236 on
I mean, props to Airbus, not sure what Carney did here?
Spare-Half796 on
If air Asia likes the a220, the rest of the south East Asian low cost carriers will follow
What’s really been holding them back was the reliability concerns of their engines, if Pratt and Whitney has fixed that we could see a220 orders double over the next couple yearsw
Ifix8 on
Why is a private business deal being politicized?
bo-n-es on
This is objectively good for Canada and some thanks does go to Carney for meeting with the folks who are involved in this deal. That said, they’ve been eyeing this purchase for years on and off, it’s hard not to see this as another project that was bound to cross the finish line, which Carney signed his name on.
AWE2727 on
Well at least the C-series didn’t get cancelled like say the „arrow“.
But again great Canadian ingenuity and design of a good plane by a Canadian company but just not able to deliver on a large scale.
Just proves we have the ability to create our own just sustaining it long term is a problem.
Happy for the order and hopefully Airbus can deliver and keep those Quebec jobs going.
pyfinx on
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Pretty sure he didn’t have anything to do with that order.. as well as his QC counterpart…
Can’t wait to hear how this is a terrible thing for Canada and how much better things would be if we just submit to the Epstein administration.
Carney is coming through. So glad we finally have a legitimate PM.
>However, Airbus has faced production challenges at its Montreal-area plant, struggling to churn out more than seven jets per month on average — half of the threshold needed to break even.
Glad to see people happy they can now subsidize airplanes for Malaysia
Now if only the c series could be wrestled back into Canadian hands.
now think about this
if we had kept Bombardier Cseries going, these profits could have stayed in Canada
It is good for Québec, but ultimately does not help Canada as much as they are saying.
Trump already has tariffs on raw materials AND finished aviation products.
Trump has also threatened to not recognize/essentially decommission aircraft not made at the Alabama factory over Mirabel, in America.
Canada is also going the EDC Economic Development Canada route . So effectively Canada is lending Malaysia money to buy the end product, while Canada incurs the added costs of the tariffs.
The order is huge, years of employment for Quebec/Canadians, and all the positive ripple effects mentioned; post secondary, trades growth, creating new jobs, etc.
I see it as a win, but I don’t see huge profit for Canada in the deal.
Respectfully, if my Math is off or I’m incorrect on the premise, I’m open to listening.
Edit: Thanks for the respectful dialogue.
For context:
The average life of new aircraft the airline uses is seven or eight years and then the companies start to sell on the secondary market.
The largest aviation market is the U.S.
Trump already threatened back at the end of January to do this.
If it happened, the FAA would not honour the Canadian certification and American carriers couldn’t use Canadian planes.
Again, it’s a solid deal for workers and stability, I’m just questioning the profitability.
It doesn’t have to be this “for or against” mentally when discussing things.
I mentioned the deal was huge for workers/Quebec/Canada and the positive outcomes.
I mean, props to Airbus, not sure what Carney did here?
If air Asia likes the a220, the rest of the south East Asian low cost carriers will follow
What’s really been holding them back was the reliability concerns of their engines, if Pratt and Whitney has fixed that we could see a220 orders double over the next couple yearsw
Why is a private business deal being politicized?
This is objectively good for Canada and some thanks does go to Carney for meeting with the folks who are involved in this deal. That said, they’ve been eyeing this purchase for years on and off, it’s hard not to see this as another project that was bound to cross the finish line, which Carney signed his name on.
Well at least the C-series didn’t get cancelled like say the „arrow“.
But again great Canadian ingenuity and design of a good plane by a Canadian company but just not able to deliver on a large scale.
Just proves we have the ability to create our own just sustaining it long term is a problem.
Happy for the order and hopefully Airbus can deliver and keep those Quebec jobs going.
Winning!