Wow! So all those Welsh miners in PA and all the Welsh names around Philly were a ruse by wily northerners? I never knew.
beefstewforyou on
I left America in 2018 and I’m very glad I did. If an afterlife exists, I’m going to scream at my ancestors for moving there in the first place.
Random-Mutant on
All those who went to Appalachia?
Go watch Songcatcher.
Constant-Estate3065 on
Do Pennsylvanians have an obsession with chippy teas and reasonable prices by any chance?
TheMightyDendo on
So people from Yorkshire and Cumbria went to Pennsylvania and the Midwest? Is there any trace of that remains today?
And what is the red line showing?
ContinuumGuy on
I saw an article where somebody argued that many of the political differences, at least in the eastern states, can be traced back to the original migrants from the UK (and other successive waves from elsewhere, of course, but that there are lingering effects to this day).
AcceptInevitability on
This is a bit ahistoric. If it was pre revolutionary America then Scotland, and non-Northern Ireland should be shown as source and (what is now) Canadian colonies as destination
essuxs on
So “migration routes from Britain to America” is a picture of Britain with arrows that say “to America”?
How insightful
gue55edit on
My ancestors came from Cornwall to Wisconsin about 170 years ago. There’s a pretty big population of people in Wisconsin with British ancestry, more commonly Cornish.
Ike358 on
Why is Ireland included when the title clearly says „Britain“
HaveNotWisdom on
Britain and Ireland*
TooSwang on
I’m pretty sure this is based on the book [Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed) and I don’t know how much it’s genuinely based on data about the movements of people versus some generalizations about culture and language.
Filthiest_Tleilaxu on
The cool people went to New England
wellsleyfarmsoranges on
If this is accurate then a lot of features of the source and destination locations make sense, even if some similarities (like for industrialization) would have only emerged after independence.
-SE England to New England: “old money” in their own ways (see reply below), higher education, emphasis seafaring in regional history
-Northern England to Pennsylvania/Midwest: Working class industry and farming communities, higher than average organized labor participation (industrial similarity also developed after independence)
-Southern Scotland/North of Ireland to Appalachia: Probably the most well known (at least stateside) with certain cultural features retained still today, though I’m not sure Scotland and the North of Ireland have the same unfortunate “it’s poor/druggy” connotation
I’m not as familiar with SW England/Cornwall or Welsh connotations but for Virginia/Lowland South, at least from my US northeast perspective, I think they’re known for being culturally laid back, politically conservative outside NOVA, and having good food? I should know better since I have family down there but need to visit more; do any of those features like up with SW England, Cornwall, or Wales?
Fantastic_Back3191 on
Explains sooo much.
Fair-Distance371 on
Estou North america*
lucylucylane on
I guess no one came from the highlands
ionbear1 on
What’s crazy is that my mum (from London area) immigrated in 1986 to the US, and she also ended up in New England.
golden_ingot on
treaty of trianon 2
No_Communication5538 on
Almost complete BS. All these ‘sources and settlement’ of USA are based on self identification (not DNA or even rigorous genealogy). It’s just like people in Eastern England claiming to be Viking descendants – the DNA evidence shows it’s mostly BS.
reinchloch on
Northern Ireland isn’t part of Britain.
Siriblius on
so people from the rest of ireland didn’t migrate to the US like the ones from northern ireland, way before northern ireland was even a thing?
conrat4567 on
Glad to know us in Kent loved dreary weather so much we decided to settle in the exact same place but bigger
Curious_MerpBorb on
Damn. None of them going to New York or New Jersey.
44stormsnow on
I wonder what Canada’s patterns looked like.
So the USA civil war was the English civil war 2
Magmaflamefire2 on
For the Scottish, they mainly settled in the Appalachian Mountains because it reminded them of home. Which was correct because technically the Scottish mountains and the Appalachian Mountains are connected I believe.
silvio72 on
I don’t think so
random_observer_2011 on
It’s a strong thesis with lots of support going back to works published in the 90s at least, but if nothing else, take it in aggregate.
It doesn’t mean nobody from another British region showed up anywhere else.
hoppingwilde on
Now do Germany
Traditional_Entry183 on
My DNA test says that my ancestors from the UK came exactly from the spots marked to my area. Adds up.
AgentNose on
I have my family traced back to 600AD. This is accurate for me.
DraconPhoenix on
So the Dixie people are celts? They aren’t even anglo saxon so WASP is false?
Gigantopithecus1453 on
Interestingly enough, the genetics of the American civil war maps near perfectly on to the English civil war. The northerners were the descendants of those who fought for the parliament in the English civil war, and the southerners the descendants of those who fought for the king
UpbeatPhilosophySJ on
Imagine the horror when I explained to a Scottish friend newly immigrated the US who the hillbillies came from.
Truenorth14 on
Do we know any areas that the British who settled Canada came from?
StJudeTheGrey on
Appalachia tracks.
MayOrMayNotBePie on
No wonder I can’t understand a damn thing the Appalachian ppl say
Trousers_MacDougal on
Where is this data from? This actually tracks for what I have found about in genealogical forums on my surname.
Lebowski304 on
This actually lines up really well with what I have learned about my ancestry. I’m Northern Ireland and south England according to my genes and those two regions in America are where my two main lineages come from
tamerantong on
No erupean swallow route?
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Why is Scotland excluded?
Wow! So all those Welsh miners in PA and all the Welsh names around Philly were a ruse by wily northerners? I never knew.
I left America in 2018 and I’m very glad I did. If an afterlife exists, I’m going to scream at my ancestors for moving there in the first place.
All those who went to Appalachia?
Go watch Songcatcher.
Do Pennsylvanians have an obsession with chippy teas and reasonable prices by any chance?
So people from Yorkshire and Cumbria went to Pennsylvania and the Midwest? Is there any trace of that remains today?
And what is the red line showing?
I saw an article where somebody argued that many of the political differences, at least in the eastern states, can be traced back to the original migrants from the UK (and other successive waves from elsewhere, of course, but that there are lingering effects to this day).
This is a bit ahistoric. If it was pre revolutionary America then Scotland, and non-Northern Ireland should be shown as source and (what is now) Canadian colonies as destination
So “migration routes from Britain to America” is a picture of Britain with arrows that say “to America”?
How insightful
My ancestors came from Cornwall to Wisconsin about 170 years ago. There’s a pretty big population of people in Wisconsin with British ancestry, more commonly Cornish.
Why is Ireland included when the title clearly says „Britain“
Britain and Ireland*
I’m pretty sure this is based on the book [Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion's_Seed) and I don’t know how much it’s genuinely based on data about the movements of people versus some generalizations about culture and language.
The cool people went to New England
If this is accurate then a lot of features of the source and destination locations make sense, even if some similarities (like for industrialization) would have only emerged after independence.
-SE England to New England: “old money” in their own ways (see reply below), higher education, emphasis seafaring in regional history
-Northern England to Pennsylvania/Midwest: Working class industry and farming communities, higher than average organized labor participation (industrial similarity also developed after independence)
-Southern Scotland/North of Ireland to Appalachia: Probably the most well known (at least stateside) with certain cultural features retained still today, though I’m not sure Scotland and the North of Ireland have the same unfortunate “it’s poor/druggy” connotation
I’m not as familiar with SW England/Cornwall or Welsh connotations but for Virginia/Lowland South, at least from my US northeast perspective, I think they’re known for being culturally laid back, politically conservative outside NOVA, and having good food? I should know better since I have family down there but need to visit more; do any of those features like up with SW England, Cornwall, or Wales?
Explains sooo much.
Estou North america*
I guess no one came from the highlands
What’s crazy is that my mum (from London area) immigrated in 1986 to the US, and she also ended up in New England.
treaty of trianon 2
Almost complete BS. All these ‘sources and settlement’ of USA are based on self identification (not DNA or even rigorous genealogy). It’s just like people in Eastern England claiming to be Viking descendants – the DNA evidence shows it’s mostly BS.
Northern Ireland isn’t part of Britain.
so people from the rest of ireland didn’t migrate to the US like the ones from northern ireland, way before northern ireland was even a thing?
Glad to know us in Kent loved dreary weather so much we decided to settle in the exact same place but bigger
Damn. None of them going to New York or New Jersey.
I wonder what Canada’s patterns looked like.
So the USA civil war was the English civil war 2
For the Scottish, they mainly settled in the Appalachian Mountains because it reminded them of home. Which was correct because technically the Scottish mountains and the Appalachian Mountains are connected I believe.
I don’t think so
It’s a strong thesis with lots of support going back to works published in the 90s at least, but if nothing else, take it in aggregate.
It doesn’t mean nobody from another British region showed up anywhere else.
Now do Germany
My DNA test says that my ancestors from the UK came exactly from the spots marked to my area. Adds up.
I have my family traced back to 600AD. This is accurate for me.
So the Dixie people are celts? They aren’t even anglo saxon so WASP is false?
Interestingly enough, the genetics of the American civil war maps near perfectly on to the English civil war. The northerners were the descendants of those who fought for the parliament in the English civil war, and the southerners the descendants of those who fought for the king
Imagine the horror when I explained to a Scottish friend newly immigrated the US who the hillbillies came from.
Do we know any areas that the British who settled Canada came from?
Appalachia tracks.
No wonder I can’t understand a damn thing the Appalachian ppl say
Where is this data from? This actually tracks for what I have found about in genealogical forums on my surname.
This actually lines up really well with what I have learned about my ancestry. I’m Northern Ireland and south England according to my genes and those two regions in America are where my two main lineages come from
No erupean swallow route?