Might as well keep him here so people like him can turn our country into a state of lawlessness then.
Wonderful_Confusion4 on
Right… so it’s ok to point a gun at someone? This is the type of person we want in our society?
Top_Canary_3335 on
Basically said you are violent, but we can’t send you back to your own country because there is violence there .
🤣 we are living a a simulation. None of this can be real.
tjc103 on
This nation is a clown college.
Bedanktvooralles on
So it’s dangerous where he’s from so we won’t send him back there but he’s behaving like he’s still in his home town. Fuck that noise. I think we need to revisit that policy. In this case it’s just going to endanger Canadians. Utter nonsense.
ACP_Paddy- on
Jesus Christ. Having the firearm (handgun) was bad enough.
IamKatieUntamed on
Legal firearms owners who retain their legally acquired property after the amnesty period ends, will likely face far harsher penalties.
Suicidal empathy for foreign criminals. Book throwing at some of the safest and most law abiding citizens.
sleipnir45 on
Hopefully they revoked his firearms license.
Oh
Purple-Temperature-3 on
He made his choice, why can’t we enforce our own rules and send him back. We don’t need anymore of this type of crap here.
chlronald on
I mean he like gun so much… perfect fit to be deport back to a country „that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism“.
crossplanetriple on
Imagine you’re driving home and someone as unhinged as this confronts you with a loaded firearm without a license, and then we just go.. yep he should stay in this country and this is acceptable behavior because he was “remorseful”?
Joke.
D3vils_Adv0cate on
He received a three year prison sentence. It states normally anything over 6 months means instant deportation but this triggered:
While any sentence longer than six months behind bars would make Berhe “subject to an automatic removal order,” said the judge, “Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
Obvious-Window8044 on
3 years for what sounds like aggrevated assault with a weapon. Peanuts.
This guy went out of his way to engage and escalate. He’s a violent criminal. We need to be making examples out of ANYONE who uses violence and should be minimums of 7-10 years.
Vortagaun on
Judges need to be held accountable. If this guy goes out and does another violent crime, arrest the judge for aiding.
bristow84 on
Oh give me a fucking break. He’s not a Canadian citizen and has already shown that he is willing to engage in violence at the slightest provocation while in possession of illegal firearms. It’s a goddamn joke at this point, all this shit does is endanger actual Canadians who follow the laws and believe in a safe society that Canada used to offer.
weneedafuture on
You’d think that if his home country is so dangerous, he’d be doing his utmost to stay here legally and in good standing.
You’d also think, given the LPC’s „fear“ of firearms, that an unlicensed foreigner in possession of two illegal firearms and using them to intimidate and threaten Canadians, would be deported regardless of the country they come from.
This story is beyond infuriating.
SandwichDependent139 on
In Winnipeg a youth shot and killed another outside a high school.
He stated that in his country people carried guns in dangerous neighbourhood’s and he was told that the area was dangerous, so he carried a gun.
And no consequences.
Mother of dead teen left town. I wonder why.
Mr_Engineering on
Did anyone in here actually read the article?
The judge imposed a sentence that would make him automatically deportable when it’s completed but simply commented that the risk of him actually being deported is low because Canada doesn’t actively deport to Ethiopia due to safety risks.
The judge has no control over whether or not he gets deported, only on whether or not to give a period of incarceration that could result in deportation.
The judge gave a sentence which could result in deportation, which based on the facts of the case, was the correct decision.
Curly-Canuck on
I’m a little confused because the article says he failed to convince the judge.
>An Ethiopian immigrant who pulled out a loaded handgun, pointed it at another driver and threatened to shoot during a fight that was sparked by a “minor traffic infraction” in Calgary failed to convince a judge to tailor his sentence to avoid deportation.
I read it twice but the title seems a little misleading.
In any case, I don’t believe Criminal court judges should not take into consideration how the sentence impacts their deportation status at all. That’s not their job. If someone ends up subject to deportation there are mechanisms for them to make their case then, to Immigration Canada, not during criminal sentencing.
Which is what the judge appears to have stated, that immigration Canada is unlikely to deport them, but the judge didn’t factor deportation into the sentence.
> While any sentence longer than six months behind bars would make Berhe “subject to an automatic removal order,” said the judge, “Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
icebalm on
The fuck is going on? Why are we keeping these people? They clearly are not the worlds best and brightest and are not desirable. Why the fuck are we doing this to ourselves?
MySubtleHustle7042 on
Judge gave a sentence that would have triggered automatic removal but the activists that run Immigration Canada have a long list of countries they won’t deport to for “reasons”.
Demetre19864 on
It just blows my mind.
Our deportation policy is out of wack completly.
Anyone here on a temp or trying to become a resident should be on thin ice right until the day they are sworn to be a Canadian and given citizenship.
Break a rule.
Gone.. should be the first thought
UnexpectedAnanas on
What a terrible misleading headline from the NP. Why am I not surprised?
And people are eating it up.
YawnY86 on
Why is Canada so afraid of deporting criminals back to their country.
Wide_Lunch8004 on
No more immigration from these countries then.
Prestigious-Grand-65 on
Our gun laws are so tight, this is ridiculous. If I was transporting one of my weapons to the firing range for a day, and pulled it on someone, they would strip me of my firearms license, my guns, a fine, and likely jail time. If someone is using an illegal firearm, without a license, how is this not a reportable offense???
Nonamanadus on
Ummmm….why did he have a gun?
Why can’t we have a ZERO tolerance for crimes with non citizens? Shoplift….deported…..fraud….deported….violence & threats deported.
Fuck sakes it’s not that hard. These people are guests, not citizens.
BaryonChallon on
Give him the boot!! This is beyond unacceptable
BiscottiNo6948 on
Not yet is the operative word. Meaning if at some point in time his country is removed from the dangerous place list, he can still be subject to deportation proceedings.
For now 3 yrs in prison will hopefully bring him to behave well. One can only hope.
toilet_for_shrek on
>“Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
Don’t get me wrong, our judges seem to hate giving people sentences that might lead to their deportation, but this is the real reason why this criminal isn’t leaving despite the jail sentence. Criminals from places like Haiti would be granted the same leniency.
Canada basically has a list of countries that are such crap-holes, that we won’t deport people to them even if their nationals have done something worthy of deportation
beefloaf1986 on
This headline is so poorly written. The judge stood firm, and absolutely handed down a sentence where deportation is on the table. They just remarked that Immigration Canada is unlikely to follow through, while their home country is at war. This judge is doing exactly what people are asking for. Unfortunately, people are not reading the article in it’s entirety.
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Might as well keep him here so people like him can turn our country into a state of lawlessness then.
Right… so it’s ok to point a gun at someone? This is the type of person we want in our society?
Basically said you are violent, but we can’t send you back to your own country because there is violence there .
🤣 we are living a a simulation. None of this can be real.
This nation is a clown college.
So it’s dangerous where he’s from so we won’t send him back there but he’s behaving like he’s still in his home town. Fuck that noise. I think we need to revisit that policy. In this case it’s just going to endanger Canadians. Utter nonsense.
Jesus Christ. Having the firearm (handgun) was bad enough.
Legal firearms owners who retain their legally acquired property after the amnesty period ends, will likely face far harsher penalties.
Suicidal empathy for foreign criminals. Book throwing at some of the safest and most law abiding citizens.
Hopefully they revoked his firearms license.
Oh
He made his choice, why can’t we enforce our own rules and send him back. We don’t need anymore of this type of crap here.
I mean he like gun so much… perfect fit to be deport back to a country „that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism“.
Imagine you’re driving home and someone as unhinged as this confronts you with a loaded firearm without a license, and then we just go.. yep he should stay in this country and this is acceptable behavior because he was “remorseful”?
Joke.
He received a three year prison sentence. It states normally anything over 6 months means instant deportation but this triggered:
While any sentence longer than six months behind bars would make Berhe “subject to an automatic removal order,” said the judge, “Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
3 years for what sounds like aggrevated assault with a weapon. Peanuts.
This guy went out of his way to engage and escalate. He’s a violent criminal. We need to be making examples out of ANYONE who uses violence and should be minimums of 7-10 years.
Judges need to be held accountable. If this guy goes out and does another violent crime, arrest the judge for aiding.
Oh give me a fucking break. He’s not a Canadian citizen and has already shown that he is willing to engage in violence at the slightest provocation while in possession of illegal firearms. It’s a goddamn joke at this point, all this shit does is endanger actual Canadians who follow the laws and believe in a safe society that Canada used to offer.
You’d think that if his home country is so dangerous, he’d be doing his utmost to stay here legally and in good standing.
You’d also think, given the LPC’s „fear“ of firearms, that an unlicensed foreigner in possession of two illegal firearms and using them to intimidate and threaten Canadians, would be deported regardless of the country they come from.
This story is beyond infuriating.
In Winnipeg a youth shot and killed another outside a high school.
He stated that in his country people carried guns in dangerous neighbourhood’s and he was told that the area was dangerous, so he carried a gun.
And no consequences.
Mother of dead teen left town. I wonder why.
Did anyone in here actually read the article?
The judge imposed a sentence that would make him automatically deportable when it’s completed but simply commented that the risk of him actually being deported is low because Canada doesn’t actively deport to Ethiopia due to safety risks.
The judge has no control over whether or not he gets deported, only on whether or not to give a period of incarceration that could result in deportation.
The judge gave a sentence which could result in deportation, which based on the facts of the case, was the correct decision.
I’m a little confused because the article says he failed to convince the judge.
>An Ethiopian immigrant who pulled out a loaded handgun, pointed it at another driver and threatened to shoot during a fight that was sparked by a “minor traffic infraction” in Calgary failed to convince a judge to tailor his sentence to avoid deportation.
I read it twice but the title seems a little misleading.
In any case, I don’t believe Criminal court judges should not take into consideration how the sentence impacts their deportation status at all. That’s not their job. If someone ends up subject to deportation there are mechanisms for them to make their case then, to Immigration Canada, not during criminal sentencing.
Which is what the judge appears to have stated, that immigration Canada is unlikely to deport them, but the judge didn’t factor deportation into the sentence.
> While any sentence longer than six months behind bars would make Berhe “subject to an automatic removal order,” said the judge, “Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
The fuck is going on? Why are we keeping these people? They clearly are not the worlds best and brightest and are not desirable. Why the fuck are we doing this to ourselves?
Judge gave a sentence that would have triggered automatic removal but the activists that run Immigration Canada have a long list of countries they won’t deport to for “reasons”.
It just blows my mind.
Our deportation policy is out of wack completly.
Anyone here on a temp or trying to become a resident should be on thin ice right until the day they are sworn to be a Canadian and given citizenship.
Break a rule.
Gone.. should be the first thought
What a terrible misleading headline from the NP. Why am I not surprised?
And people are eating it up.
Why is Canada so afraid of deporting criminals back to their country.
No more immigration from these countries then.
Our gun laws are so tight, this is ridiculous. If I was transporting one of my weapons to the firing range for a day, and pulled it on someone, they would strip me of my firearms license, my guns, a fine, and likely jail time. If someone is using an illegal firearm, without a license, how is this not a reportable offense???
Ummmm….why did he have a gun?
Why can’t we have a ZERO tolerance for crimes with non citizens? Shoplift….deported…..fraud….deported….violence & threats deported.
Fuck sakes it’s not that hard. These people are guests, not citizens.
Give him the boot!! This is beyond unacceptable
Not yet is the operative word. Meaning if at some point in time his country is removed from the dangerous place list, he can still be subject to deportation proceedings.
For now 3 yrs in prison will hopefully bring him to behave well. One can only hope.
>“Immigration Canada does stay removal orders to enumerated countries that are in a state of war or otherwise subject to violence, danger, terrorism, etc.; currently, Ethiopia is one such country.”
Don’t get me wrong, our judges seem to hate giving people sentences that might lead to their deportation, but this is the real reason why this criminal isn’t leaving despite the jail sentence. Criminals from places like Haiti would be granted the same leniency.
Canada basically has a list of countries that are such crap-holes, that we won’t deport people to them even if their nationals have done something worthy of deportation
This headline is so poorly written. The judge stood firm, and absolutely handed down a sentence where deportation is on the table. They just remarked that Immigration Canada is unlikely to follow through, while their home country is at war. This judge is doing exactly what people are asking for. Unfortunately, people are not reading the article in it’s entirety.