I have mixed feelings on this topic. It’s not good to neglect your children and I think overexposure at such a young age could be harmful. Yet at the same time, it’s good imo to provide some limited time with such devices say 10-15 mins here or there. Ultimately we now live in a digital world and children need to be proficient in the use of technology.
Noonecanseemenow on
I’m alway conflicted with this.
Personally I feel that using screen time in a limited capacity with a focus on educational programmes is good, especially if it gives parents room to do things.
However I think the issue is when parents use it as an extra parent or set of eyes for extended periods of time.
GenghisKhant_ on
This is the absolute understatement of utterly lazy parenting that causes the majority of problems with childrens behaviour as they get older. I also think and have seen with my own eyes many of the behavioural problems that get associated with ADHD are because of too much screen time as children turn into beasts when left to watch crap all day. Children want you to spend time with them and interact with them not just shove an ipad in their face because you can’t be bothered to make time for them.
blizeH on
Does this include TV? If so I’m surprised it’s not higher (although also if it doesn’t include TV, I’m surprised it’s so high, I must be living in a bubble!)
ThrowawayGreekGod on
Come on guys, what’s the problem?
Humans have been doing this for the past 5000 years!
LemonDisasters on
more than 2/3rds of children’s parents do not care (edit: enough*) about their children 🙂
Before you downvote: the research is Undialectical. It will not change for your feelings. Parent your children.
htmwc on
I think there’s also a big difference between an ipad and iphone and some high speed garbage, and old cartoons on a TV (with family ideally). But under 2 should really avoid all of it I think
notthatbluestuff on
Get ready to hear from those parents how “we only do it so we can eat a meal in peace!” as though there are simply no other ways to keep a child entertained.
Comfortable-Law-7147 on
Letting your kid fall asleep with a screen at night is lazy.
I can understand how a kid can just fall asleep while using/watching one in the day.
The BBC has a lot of good children’s programmes and games which are aimed at kids toddler age and older.
I have had the „pleasure“ of watching them for a few decades and is the only reason I have a licence. If you actually watch CBeebies live, they section their programming making it difficult unless you are a lazy parent for the kid to watch and maintain interest for more than 20 minutes to just over an hour depending on the age of the child.
Some other channels children’s programmes are simply too fast and too busy for kids under 6.
South_Buy_3175 on
Don’t worry, I’m sure the government has a team already working on a solution.
Something incredibly invasive and expensive to disrupt our daily lives, I’m sure.
CoolJetEcho117 on
You have to find a healthy balance. They are still in the modern world. We’re now seeing the consequences of people proudly keeping their children off screens to the point that universities have remedial typing classes and basic computer use classes.
I’ll say this: It’s been far harder parenting challenge keeping myself off my phone than my kid.
Bubble-Master96 on
I have two uses of screens
1 on the rare occasion we have driven over 15 minutes from home close to nap time I will play an episode of Bluey on the tablet driving home to stop her falling asleep (she’s a bugger for car naps)
And she gets 1 episode of Bluey before dinner, and 1 episode of Bluey after dinner. And that’s it.
I’m not against screen time, but I believe in limits to it. Children falling asleep to a screen is absolutely abhorrent and honestly neglectful parenting. What happened to bath, book and bed???
I’d love it if people downvoting would be open to have an actual conversation?
Expensive_Time_7367 on
It really really depends on how much they’re using it: that’s the science. For under twos zero screen time (which includes tv) is recommended because they don’t actually engage with it in the same way as they do real people or activity, like how babies don’t really get mirrors. 5 minutes isn’t going to do anything serious, it’s just wasting their time, but it creeps easily and lots of it can be quite bad for development because they’re not playing with stuff in their hands or crawling about etc.
Kyber92 on
And I’m here feeling guilty because my daughter falls asleep to an audiobook playing from my phone rather than me reading to her. Jesus Christ people, the fuck are we doing?
CappriGirl on
This is absolutely going to have catastrophic consequences for the attention and focus of children.
originalwombat on
This is a systemic issue with many many reasons, one being how fucking hard life is where parents are fighting every day just to feed their families working so much, house always a mess and never money for leisure or fun, so they become shittier lazier parents. If we had a world where parents were supported and the cost of living wasn’t suffocating our lives people would be able to give more energy into actually being decent parents. Right now they are so exhausted and suffocated by social media and devices themselves that they do the same for their kids, and we will all suffer because of it
811545b2-4ff7-4041 on
Poor skills; my teen can use his xbox, ipad and phone all at once. Step it up other kids.
Dapper_Otters on
So annoyingly I can’t find a link to the actual research and methodology (e.g. How many participants? What constitutes using a screen?). Even the 1001 Critical Days site who commissioned the research only has a press release.
I’d be skeptical about this one.
IlIIIllIIlIlllII on
Own and run a nursery. I have children, under 4 that have their own smart phones. Not just tablets.
They are baby babies that need help going to the toilet and feeding themselves but give them a tablet and they can heat seek find the youtube app
Cool_Singer_8201 on
The other day I went to a restaurant and the family at the next table were all on screens. Mom and dad on their phones and their two children on their ipads watching some rubbish show with headphones on. Literally not a single interaction between them for nearly 40 minutes that we were there. Quite fascinating.
Graz279 on
It’s becoming a sad state of affairs.
I was out for a walk the other day and a Mum with a toddler in a pushchair was walking towards me. I look down and the kid had the Mum’s phone on its lap watching whatever. Just why? The kid should be enjoying the environment, the sights, sounds and smells of a nice sunny day, not looking at a phone screen.
I’m not saying my two kids never had some access to screens growing up but it was very limited and there were certain times where it would be a complete no-go. Out for a walk in the pushchair would be one of those.
Make the most of them not being on them I say as when they get to teenage years, like my two, it’s pretty much impossible to get them off them. Wouldn’t be so bad if they were watching interesting or educational stuff either but it’s mostly brain rot.
MelodicPreparation93 on
Under 2! Christ really. I have a 1 year old boy and I appreciate parenting isn’t easy, but this is what you sign up for. Lean on family and friends if you need a break, don’t take the easy option which will have consequences for your child.
2_years_ago on
that’s quality parenting, however I already knew we had some terrific mum’s and dad’s in the country, as the amount of fat kids I see these days is hilarious 🤣
Reformotron on
I’m on holiday at the moment. The amount of kids watching YouTube during meal times is insane.
The amount of adults barely watching their kids in the pool is also insane.
8+ year olds in the baby pool so adults don’t have to worry about their kids drowning whilst they read a book.
Bigger kids in the pool starving for parental interaction.
I’ve spent the week in the pool with my 3 and have loved every second.
Neither_Computer5331 on
I’ve recently discovered that my 12 year old nephew has never watched a live action film all the way through.
I was horrified at this – I grew up on Indiana Jones, ET, The Goonies, Star Wars and so much more. I mentioned it at work and half the parents thought that this is now normal, as the attention span is now so short.
So my question, is will he ever increase his attention span? Will he ever be able to read novels, or will they be too long? What about a play or musical? I recently asked about taking him to the Paddington musical and my brother said he didn’t think it was a good idea.
What will their entertainment be like in 20 years? Short 5 minute episodes? Basically will proper story telling and the culture that we all enjoy die off because of smartphones?
Mammoth_Park7184 on
To me it depends on what you put on the tablet. My kids got them at 3. They are time limited to an hour a day. They could only do counting or addition or memory type games for the first 30 mins and then it let them play the mindless stuff after that. Both my kids could count to 20 before starting nursery.
Trundlenator on
No under two year old is sneaking screen time without their parent’s knowledge.
Parenting standards in this country are not adequate.
We need to stop this culture of ‘someone else should take responsibility for my lack of responsibility’ and actually put consequences on parents who don’t take their responsibilities seriously.
weightsfreight on
“The burden of screen time cannot fall solely on parents. Tech companies must wake up to the realities of the impact of screen time on babies.“
It absolutely should fall solely on the parents.
If i got my kid addicted to smoking, should tobacco companies cater to my failure by adding more text and pictures saying „bad for kids!“?
It’s a conscious effort to make your baby fall asleep in front of a screen, and the addiction that forms due to that is entirely on them.
samirshah on
Wellcome to Reddit
It’s easy to be outraged and certainly at the extreme ends of things (where children go to sleep with an iPad regularly) it’s just uncontrolled, addictive, and unsupervised. This is most definitely bad.
Where it is controlled, limited, and supported it can be a very useful thing. We have counting and reading games we play together, their machine has a time limit, apps and websites are very limited and silly cartoons are allowed but just with us and time limited. They can even watch extra if they save up time fostering planning and delayed reward.
I don’t think it’s bad if you have a considered approach (as we all say this while addicted to Reddit)
glennok on
I have 4x kids under 7. They get one hour on Saturdays and Sundays. Screw your excuses, kids should not be raised by screens.
Rhym3z_Official on
Kids using a screen is fine. But under 2!? Yikes maybe 3 or 4 at a push at least.
Its amusing to see the non parents here as always too
EnderMB on
I reiterate what I always say on places like /r/daddit. If you don’t have a kid, and you’re not an expert on child development, your opinion on parenting is invalid. You lack the experience and the nuance/empathy to critically think about parenting a child on zero sleep that has boundless energy and demands.
With that said, while many of us <40 grew up with TV, the sheer amount of choice today is something many of us just didn’t have – and a lot of parents will happily put their kids in front of a two hour marathon of Daniel Tiger or through a playlist of all the Julia Donaldson films and enjoy the peace and quiet. It’s both very similar, and world’s apart from our experiences.
Everything in moderation. There are guidelines that a child shouldn’t watch more than an hour a day while at 2, and I find it very hard for my daughter to watch close to that because she actively wants to do other things. Some kids aren’t like that, and some parents aren’t like that. IMO all you can really do is educate parents, and I think more needs to be done around this because you would be mortified at how many parents lack that basic understanding of it being damaging and why it is damaging.
Whit3Pudding on
And then parents blame teachers for their kids being fucking idiots who can’t concentrate on a book for two minutes.
AxiosXiphos on
I’m gonna be honest – I really don’t see the harm in letting my toddler watch a show about a dancing bear teaching shapes and maths for a short time through dinner.
There’s a lot of nuance here being lost.
diggerbanks on
Technology will be the end of us. The future is grim because of what technology does and what technology needs. Convenience is the guest welcome warmly and invite in, but eventually, you will wish you hadn’t.
DesperateOven9854 on
All of my kids have had tv under 2, small amounts of very curated shows. Full ban at mealtimes, screens off an hour before bed, , absolutely no YouTube.
Sometimes you need the break to be able to cook dinner, or wash up, without them managing to find something to injure themselves with.
However, I see the impact of perma screen kids constantly. There’s a girl in one of my kids classes who stares at a tablet on the way to school, has to be bribed off of it at drop off, and then is given it the minute she’s out the class at the end of the day. My eldest had a sleepover with a friend, and came down complaining that her friend had sat there watching tiktok for four hours and she couldn’t sleep through the noise. Another came round for dinner and looked confused when we asked her to put her phone away at the table.
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I have mixed feelings on this topic. It’s not good to neglect your children and I think overexposure at such a young age could be harmful. Yet at the same time, it’s good imo to provide some limited time with such devices say 10-15 mins here or there. Ultimately we now live in a digital world and children need to be proficient in the use of technology.
I’m alway conflicted with this.
Personally I feel that using screen time in a limited capacity with a focus on educational programmes is good, especially if it gives parents room to do things.
However I think the issue is when parents use it as an extra parent or set of eyes for extended periods of time.
This is the absolute understatement of utterly lazy parenting that causes the majority of problems with childrens behaviour as they get older. I also think and have seen with my own eyes many of the behavioural problems that get associated with ADHD are because of too much screen time as children turn into beasts when left to watch crap all day. Children want you to spend time with them and interact with them not just shove an ipad in their face because you can’t be bothered to make time for them.
Does this include TV? If so I’m surprised it’s not higher (although also if it doesn’t include TV, I’m surprised it’s so high, I must be living in a bubble!)
Come on guys, what’s the problem?
Humans have been doing this for the past 5000 years!
more than 2/3rds of children’s parents do not care (edit: enough*) about their children 🙂
Before you downvote: the research is Undialectical. It will not change for your feelings. Parent your children.
I think there’s also a big difference between an ipad and iphone and some high speed garbage, and old cartoons on a TV (with family ideally). But under 2 should really avoid all of it I think
Get ready to hear from those parents how “we only do it so we can eat a meal in peace!” as though there are simply no other ways to keep a child entertained.
Letting your kid fall asleep with a screen at night is lazy.
I can understand how a kid can just fall asleep while using/watching one in the day.
The BBC has a lot of good children’s programmes and games which are aimed at kids toddler age and older.
I have had the „pleasure“ of watching them for a few decades and is the only reason I have a licence. If you actually watch CBeebies live, they section their programming making it difficult unless you are a lazy parent for the kid to watch and maintain interest for more than 20 minutes to just over an hour depending on the age of the child.
Some other channels children’s programmes are simply too fast and too busy for kids under 6.
Don’t worry, I’m sure the government has a team already working on a solution.
Something incredibly invasive and expensive to disrupt our daily lives, I’m sure.
You have to find a healthy balance. They are still in the modern world. We’re now seeing the consequences of people proudly keeping their children off screens to the point that universities have remedial typing classes and basic computer use classes.
I’ll say this: It’s been far harder parenting challenge keeping myself off my phone than my kid.
I have two uses of screens
1 on the rare occasion we have driven over 15 minutes from home close to nap time I will play an episode of Bluey on the tablet driving home to stop her falling asleep (she’s a bugger for car naps)
And she gets 1 episode of Bluey before dinner, and 1 episode of Bluey after dinner. And that’s it.
I’m not against screen time, but I believe in limits to it. Children falling asleep to a screen is absolutely abhorrent and honestly neglectful parenting. What happened to bath, book and bed???
I’d love it if people downvoting would be open to have an actual conversation?
It really really depends on how much they’re using it: that’s the science. For under twos zero screen time (which includes tv) is recommended because they don’t actually engage with it in the same way as they do real people or activity, like how babies don’t really get mirrors. 5 minutes isn’t going to do anything serious, it’s just wasting their time, but it creeps easily and lots of it can be quite bad for development because they’re not playing with stuff in their hands or crawling about etc.
And I’m here feeling guilty because my daughter falls asleep to an audiobook playing from my phone rather than me reading to her. Jesus Christ people, the fuck are we doing?
This is absolutely going to have catastrophic consequences for the attention and focus of children.
This is a systemic issue with many many reasons, one being how fucking hard life is where parents are fighting every day just to feed their families working so much, house always a mess and never money for leisure or fun, so they become shittier lazier parents. If we had a world where parents were supported and the cost of living wasn’t suffocating our lives people would be able to give more energy into actually being decent parents. Right now they are so exhausted and suffocated by social media and devices themselves that they do the same for their kids, and we will all suffer because of it
Poor skills; my teen can use his xbox, ipad and phone all at once. Step it up other kids.
So annoyingly I can’t find a link to the actual research and methodology (e.g. How many participants? What constitutes using a screen?). Even the 1001 Critical Days site who commissioned the research only has a press release.
I’d be skeptical about this one.
Own and run a nursery. I have children, under 4 that have their own smart phones. Not just tablets.
They are baby babies that need help going to the toilet and feeding themselves but give them a tablet and they can heat seek find the youtube app
The other day I went to a restaurant and the family at the next table were all on screens. Mom and dad on their phones and their two children on their ipads watching some rubbish show with headphones on. Literally not a single interaction between them for nearly 40 minutes that we were there. Quite fascinating.
It’s becoming a sad state of affairs.
I was out for a walk the other day and a Mum with a toddler in a pushchair was walking towards me. I look down and the kid had the Mum’s phone on its lap watching whatever. Just why? The kid should be enjoying the environment, the sights, sounds and smells of a nice sunny day, not looking at a phone screen.
I’m not saying my two kids never had some access to screens growing up but it was very limited and there were certain times where it would be a complete no-go. Out for a walk in the pushchair would be one of those.
Make the most of them not being on them I say as when they get to teenage years, like my two, it’s pretty much impossible to get them off them. Wouldn’t be so bad if they were watching interesting or educational stuff either but it’s mostly brain rot.
Under 2! Christ really. I have a 1 year old boy and I appreciate parenting isn’t easy, but this is what you sign up for. Lean on family and friends if you need a break, don’t take the easy option which will have consequences for your child.
that’s quality parenting, however I already knew we had some terrific mum’s and dad’s in the country, as the amount of fat kids I see these days is hilarious 🤣
I’m on holiday at the moment. The amount of kids watching YouTube during meal times is insane.
The amount of adults barely watching their kids in the pool is also insane.
8+ year olds in the baby pool so adults don’t have to worry about their kids drowning whilst they read a book.
Bigger kids in the pool starving for parental interaction.
I’ve spent the week in the pool with my 3 and have loved every second.
I’ve recently discovered that my 12 year old nephew has never watched a live action film all the way through.
I was horrified at this – I grew up on Indiana Jones, ET, The Goonies, Star Wars and so much more. I mentioned it at work and half the parents thought that this is now normal, as the attention span is now so short.
So my question, is will he ever increase his attention span? Will he ever be able to read novels, or will they be too long? What about a play or musical? I recently asked about taking him to the Paddington musical and my brother said he didn’t think it was a good idea.
What will their entertainment be like in 20 years? Short 5 minute episodes? Basically will proper story telling and the culture that we all enjoy die off because of smartphones?
To me it depends on what you put on the tablet. My kids got them at 3. They are time limited to an hour a day. They could only do counting or addition or memory type games for the first 30 mins and then it let them play the mindless stuff after that. Both my kids could count to 20 before starting nursery.
No under two year old is sneaking screen time without their parent’s knowledge.
Parenting standards in this country are not adequate.
We need to stop this culture of ‘someone else should take responsibility for my lack of responsibility’ and actually put consequences on parents who don’t take their responsibilities seriously.
“The burden of screen time cannot fall solely on parents. Tech companies must wake up to the realities of the impact of screen time on babies.“
It absolutely should fall solely on the parents.
If i got my kid addicted to smoking, should tobacco companies cater to my failure by adding more text and pictures saying „bad for kids!“?
It’s a conscious effort to make your baby fall asleep in front of a screen, and the addiction that forms due to that is entirely on them.
Wellcome to Reddit
It’s easy to be outraged and certainly at the extreme ends of things (where children go to sleep with an iPad regularly) it’s just uncontrolled, addictive, and unsupervised. This is most definitely bad.
Where it is controlled, limited, and supported it can be a very useful thing. We have counting and reading games we play together, their machine has a time limit, apps and websites are very limited and silly cartoons are allowed but just with us and time limited. They can even watch extra if they save up time fostering planning and delayed reward.
I don’t think it’s bad if you have a considered approach (as we all say this while addicted to Reddit)
I have 4x kids under 7. They get one hour on Saturdays and Sundays. Screw your excuses, kids should not be raised by screens.
Kids using a screen is fine. But under 2!? Yikes maybe 3 or 4 at a push at least.
Its amusing to see the non parents here as always too
I reiterate what I always say on places like /r/daddit. If you don’t have a kid, and you’re not an expert on child development, your opinion on parenting is invalid. You lack the experience and the nuance/empathy to critically think about parenting a child on zero sleep that has boundless energy and demands.
With that said, while many of us <40 grew up with TV, the sheer amount of choice today is something many of us just didn’t have – and a lot of parents will happily put their kids in front of a two hour marathon of Daniel Tiger or through a playlist of all the Julia Donaldson films and enjoy the peace and quiet. It’s both very similar, and world’s apart from our experiences.
Everything in moderation. There are guidelines that a child shouldn’t watch more than an hour a day while at 2, and I find it very hard for my daughter to watch close to that because she actively wants to do other things. Some kids aren’t like that, and some parents aren’t like that. IMO all you can really do is educate parents, and I think more needs to be done around this because you would be mortified at how many parents lack that basic understanding of it being damaging and why it is damaging.
And then parents blame teachers for their kids being fucking idiots who can’t concentrate on a book for two minutes.
I’m gonna be honest – I really don’t see the harm in letting my toddler watch a show about a dancing bear teaching shapes and maths for a short time through dinner.
There’s a lot of nuance here being lost.
Technology will be the end of us. The future is grim because of what technology does and what technology needs. Convenience is the guest welcome warmly and invite in, but eventually, you will wish you hadn’t.
All of my kids have had tv under 2, small amounts of very curated shows. Full ban at mealtimes, screens off an hour before bed, , absolutely no YouTube.
Sometimes you need the break to be able to cook dinner, or wash up, without them managing to find something to injure themselves with.
However, I see the impact of perma screen kids constantly. There’s a girl in one of my kids classes who stares at a tablet on the way to school, has to be bribed off of it at drop off, and then is given it the minute she’s out the class at the end of the day. My eldest had a sleepover with a friend, and came down complaining that her friend had sat there watching tiktok for four hours and she couldn’t sleep through the noise. Another came round for dinner and looked confused when we asked her to put her phone away at the table.