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    Von nun an werden in Großbritannien jedes Jahr mehr Todesfälle als Geburten erwartet

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    2. CareBearCartel on

      Turns out that when you have low wages, high inequality and high cost of living people choose to not have kids.

      Thanks neoliberalism

    3. Batalfie on

      World is overpopulated anyway. I don’t think we should go all Thanos but a declining birth rate isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

    4. FlaviousTiberius on

      Boomers said don’t have kids you can’t afford, so now the younger generations took that advice and don’t bother. I don’t want to hear any bitching or moaning about pensions over this kind of news from that generation.

    5. perscitia on

      I wonder how long it will take some conservative wonk to use this as a lever to propose restricting access to birth control and abortion.

    6. ICutDownTrees on

      This isn’t a bad thing, our aging population is most of the reason we are struggling. Older people use more resources, from NHS, Social Care, they hold a lot of wealth that is not active in the economy and hold property causing higher house prices. Our population pyramid doesn’t have enough young people to support the burden of older people. This in turn makes everyone poorer. As this starts to even out and capital starts to flow a bit more evenly over the generations everyone will be better off. This is just nature correcting itself over time

    7. Affectionate-Fish681 on

      Having kids is the worst financial and lifestyle decision you can make, so this isn’t surprising

    9. StreetCountdown on

      It’s either that or a continually growing population.  The UK can’t support an infinite amount of inhabitants. 

      This is necessary and good. It will be painful, but it will be less painful than doing it later with a higher population. 

    10. goodtitties on

      life – modern capitalistic life – is incredibly depressing, and has become more depressing the older i’ve got. i fully respect people who have enough faith in the world to have kids, but i’m not convinced that in ten years time either i or the world will still be here, so i can’t in good conscience bring someone else here

    11. Pan-tang on

      There is no necessity to have millions and millions of people. AI and robotics, fusion power and endless energy will create a very different world. The old certainties have gone, we should be cautious but positive.

    12. DavidSwifty on

      What!?? You mean in a country where wealth inequality is at an all time high, its harder than ever to get on the housing ladder and childcare takes two wages to afford that people aren’t having kids? Well I am just shocked.

    13. Jackthwolf on

      I’m reminded of a quote on this I’ve heard the other day
      “Do you know how hard you need to abuse a mammal to make them not have children?”

      Our entire system is fucked and needs tearing down.

    14. Bigglez1995 on

      Not only can people not afford to have kids, but younger generations are struggling to get into relationships because of how dating sites work, and many just straight up opt out of it.

    16. Jensablefur on

      Millennials quite literally spent years and years of our childhoods, teenage years and early adulthood being told- word for word: „Don’t have children if you can’t afford it“.

      They can’t pull out the shocked Pikachu face out now because we’re not giving them their future wage slaves.

    17. Mighty-Wings on

      House prices are through the roof.

      Rents are just insane.

      Nursery is £1,600 or more a month.

      Wages are a race to the bottom.

      Everything is a subscription.

      Affording children is a luxury.

      Edit to add:

      Statutory maternity pay is embarrassing, how are families meant to go from full pay to £192 a week.

      Paternity leave is archaic in 99% of companies, 2 weeks to support your partner and bond with you child, then back to the mill with you.

    18. Dry_Yam_4597 on

      Yeah that’s what you get when you farm people in offices, make them commute long hours, and take their money away – they don’t want kids.

    20. CharacterMaybe7950 on

      People don’t have kids because they realised they didn’t have to.

      Holidays, free time, more time with a man/woman you love.

      Poverty didn’t wreck birth rates – opportunities do.

    21. Fieryhotsauce on

      NHS services are also fucking terrible for couples trying to conceive, you’d think that would be the easiest thing to address. Can’t get pregnant and under 35? Keep trying to 2 years and then maybe we’ll put you on a waiting list for another 6 months to take a look at that.

    22. Ok_Young1709 on

      Well why would women have kids willingly? They cost a lot, ruin our bodies, ruin our life, and we still end up doing most of the work despite also working a full time job because the father can’t be arsed. No thanks 😂 It’s a lose lose situation, while I know raising a child is a highly rewarding thing to do in some ways, the negatives far outweigh the positives now.

    23. carabeinger on

      Aside from the cost of living, the cost of rent/houses, the dogshit job market, the NHS is also having to pay back families nearly 30 billion due to maternity negligence. That and the widespread manosphere rhetoric ripping through men and boys getting fucked over the system and directing all of that anger and frustration to women and girls. That birth rate is not climbing back up until politicians realize massive changes have to be made and not just taxing unmarried couples lmao.

    24. Redvat on

      By the time a woman has finished education, found a partner, progressed in her career, and purchased a house, she may find it biologically difficult to have time to have 2-3 children due to her age.

    25. Originzzzzzzz on

      I’m fine with that if the people who die are the ones who’d suggest taking away women’s rights to try to fix this

    26. cwci on

      This is 1995 population geography stuff. This predicament has hardly crept up on us.

    27. Sirlacker on

      Oh no. To put a single kid in full time nursery is like £1500 a month. For a minimum wage worker that means they only have about £400 left.

      Housing is at an all time high and unobtainable by some.

      Rent has gone through the roof. Literally £1100 for a shitty 2 bed mid terrace house with no off-road parking on an extremely busy and noisy main road.

      It takes two full time working adults to barely afford to be able to put a roof over their heads. Let alone adding child costs into it.

    28. educated-emu on

      Riddle me this…

      What happens to birth rates when you pay people less, give them less opportunity to buy homes and have them threaten to be fired every 6 months, fill their lives with red tape, give tax breaks to the rich, make mortgages practically untouchable etc etc

      Oh and then ai comes along and tells them your going to be replaced in 5 years….

      Birth go down

    29. Mr_Pink_Gold on

      People can’t afford to leave their parents‘ until they are 30. How on earth are they raising a family?

    30. ODFoxtrotOscar on

      It means the boomers are beginning fall off the perch. They’ve been a massive demographic bulge going through the system, and we’re top heavy (if you see what I mean) at the moment. This will be self correcting

    31. mediumlove on

      people here are going to blame the economy, but maybe there are other causes?

    32. amusableblue on

      Turns out calling people, especially women, scroungers for having kids they can’t afford would result in those women not having kids anymore.

      I would love to have kids but I cannot give them the life they deserve so I won’t be doing it. I know so many other women who have came to the same conclusion.

    33. onlyoneofmetoday on

      I think it’s because they have the right to choose whether to have children now, more people are choosing not to because they didnt have the best childhood and don’t want to have children go through that, even with working full-time etc people are still struggling to live well so why on earth would they have dependents that cost a fortune because they either have to stop working, or one if a couple, which lowers their income or they have to pay for childcare then schools are so ridiculous these days with the uniforms etc. I had my child back in 1997, if I was that age now I would definitely have chosen not to because of the state of things.

    34. Automatic-Yak4555 on

      This is why Reform will not let immigration fall if they got into power.

    35. CreativeEcon101 on

      Well at least people would stop complaining about lifting the two child benefits cap now that we have less kids to give benefits to.

    37. Shot_Fishing_4282 on

      The elite and politicians of this world, have created this situation. There is no appetite to change this bullshit system we live in or actually target the ultra rich, so people are now rejecting that system. My vasectomy was the biggest middle finger to all of it. 

    38. rjm101 on

      Young adults need help getting on the ladder.

      No home > no partner > no family > no legacy

    39. marc512 on

      Why is this a bad thing? The world is over populated, in the UK we have very little space. Yes we need to build more houses but we need to make sure we still have land to grow our own food incase shit hits the fan in 10 to 100 years time.

    40. _Taggerung_ on

      Maybe if they want to increase fertility rates the NHS should actually prioritise young women presenting with hormonal and menstural disorders rather than just fobbing them off for years.

    41. Cynical_Classicist on

      Yeh, well, we can’t afford to have children. People snarling about how feminism is destroying childbearing and saying that we need to have children are just out of touch. We can’t afford to have kids!

    42. super_starmie on

      I’m almost 37. I don’t have children.

      I tried working out the numbers the other day out of interest and it just doesn’t make sense, as the free childcare hours you get actually aren’t the proclaimed amount as that’s only during term time so you still have to pay thousands to bridge the gap. And that’s just before they’re school age. Once they hit school you’ve got to factor in what, 13 weeks of school holidays? When you only get 28 days annual leave? Plus I work 8:30-5, and school is like 9-3, soooooooo there’s some more time you need to worry about and from what I hear breakfast clubs etc at schools are massively oversubscribed so good luck

      People say „grandparents“ but my mum is only in her 50s and still works full time herself so can’t be the babysitting grandmother. My dad is dead and even if he wasn’t he was disabled and bed bound. Partner’s parents already have guardianship of his sister’s two children after she lost custody so they wouldn’t be able to help either as they’re already full time parents to the grandchildren they already have.

      I (the woman) earn a bit more so would make no sense to give up work. Partner earns less but if he gave up work to look after children we wouldn’t be able to pay the mortgage. We’re not highly paid, I’m a band 3 in the NHS and he works in a supermarket, so we both need to keep working. I feel we’re actually pretty comfortable right now but absolutely would not be if we had children.

      Also at my age I’m probably too old now anyway, or close to it, as I keep being told.

      Sooooooo what do?

      Oh and that’s not even covering the absolute hell that pregnancy and birth sounds like and the lifelong difficulties you have to deal with as a woman. All my friends who have children have absolute horror stories about their births. Older ladies at work talk about the issues they have and they all stem from childbirth, including one lady who’s damn CERVIX is prolapsing and she’s had surgery after surgery to try and fix it but the main answer just seems to be doctors shrugging and say „well it’s cos you’re a woman, these things are to be expected“ HELL NO. She’s not allowed to lift anything heavier than a kettle in case everything just… falls out of her, what the heck?!!

    43. BorzoiDesignsok on

      I cant even afford a bus sometimes, let alone find a permanent full time job

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