Not sure if a ban is really necessary. Smoking rates have been on a downward trend for quite some time now.
remorsefulguy on
They need to ban single use vapes , hardly anyone even smokes
WiseDebt7345 on
Sure. let’s legalize weed, decriminalize hard drugs, and then ban smokes.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I am already tired of this double-standard nanny state government.
VirindiObserver on
Not sure banning things ever truly works and it’s rare for me to even smell cigarettes these days, I feel like the problem is sorting itself out.
2EscapedCapybaras on
Will they ban possession of tobacco products or just the ability to purchase them? What about growing it yourself (you’re allowed up to 15kg per year)?
Then-Somewhere-7467 on
How about the government doesn’t tell people what to do.
Carrisonfire on
I don’t see this applying to native reserves so it will be completely useless.
ChiefRunningBit on
I’m fine with smoking but make butt littering a federal crime. Shit make littering a crime in general.
olight77 on
Why even bother.
I mean we allow drug use in the open.
fiiiiixins on
If we go this route, we might as well ban alcohol too because it’s far more harmful to society as a whole than cigarettes could have ever dreamed of being. This is just hypocritical bullshit.
NewInMontreal on
Hello Quebec independence
scottsuplol on
Good ol prohibition. It works so well
CheeseSauce_86 on
I feel like there’s less new young smokers, and far more elderly that smoke even with health issues and in some case, with cancer/remission.
Extasio on
If you want good solutions to problems look away from the UK
Unhappy_Hedgehog_808 on
What a joke, the governments in this country, provincial and federal, make absurd amount of tax revenue from tobacco sales. It’s billions of dollars a year and they have zero idea how to replace that revenue other than raise our taxes more.
srry_u_r_triggered on
If you’re worried about your health, do what I do, and don’t smoke cigarettes! Not sure why this government feels the need to ban it outright, considering the current regulations are perfectly effective. It’s not the governments job to control every aspect of your life.
fendermonkey on
It would feel odd in 30 years if two guys, one 49 years old and the other 48 go to buy a pack of smokes and the cashier can’t sell to the 48 year old.
andy_nony_mouse on
That should drive up the number of people visiting the US.
1mYourHuckleberry93 on
Whatever. Create a black market and let the indigenous get rich, you’re never gonna stop people from smoking. Prohibition doesn’t work
AnAntWithWifi on
I hate smoking, but we know bans don’t work. I’d rather see more measures put in place against vaping.
banevader699 on
liberals try not to ban something for one day impossible challenge
PerfectBlueberry6378 on
Considering how much of the cost of smokes is taxes.. I wonder if itll cause an increase in taxes required to be collected
Minami_Shimokawa on
This is getting ridiculous. It really feels like a slippery slope now. I don’t even smoke and never plan to, but that’s not the point. We’ve got the social media ban coming. Like what’s next, are they gonna go after alcohol too? Where does it actually stop?
It just feels like constant government overreach, a little more every time. Now it’s just rule after rule and it never really goes the other direction.
Anyone else feel like this is going too far?
emeric1414 on
Look at australia and its black market, that’s exactly what’s going to happen if we ban it
death_tron85 on
Jesus, give the alberta separation cult another issue to go on.
sravll on
This is absolute BS. How about they drop it and get back to more serious matters.
ETA reading the article- they’re looking at it but doesn’t sound like it’s concrete whatsoever. Was a response to a question about what the UK did which is ban it for people born after 2009. Would not impact current smokers.
322955469 on
I’ve said it before and I will say it again, mere disapproval of the majority can never justify using violence to prevent people from engaging in a fundamentally non-violent act. Every act of prohibition is an egregious violation of individual liberty. We are not free unless we are free to do stupid things that the majority disaproves of. Nothing any parliament or legislature says or does can ever make it wrong for individuals to poses and consume so-called ‚restricted‘ substances. The only thing the state achieves with acts of prohibition is to undermine its own legitimacy by demonstrating a failure to understand the limits of public authority.
CringelordCameron on
This will do nothing other than give the black market a total monopoly over tobacco sales. Smoking and nicotine in use in general is on the rise among young people, and almost none get their tobacco from a government approved store, it’s simply too expensive. I’m part of Gen Z and a vast majority of people I know purchase tobacco, vapes and nicotine pouches on the native reserve for a fraction of the legal cost. A ban would be totally useless in preventing this.
acwik on
Who buys legal cigarettes anymore anyway?
Not hard to get a carton on the rez for $40. This would impact nothing because there isn’t the political will to prosecute these cases. Contraband tobacco and cannabis are openly sold to anyone all over the country and none of that product is duty paid.
CocodaMonkey on
I really can’t see this doing anything in Canada besides annoying a few smokers. The few smokers I still know pretty much all buy native smokes because they are cheaper. There’s also no way they will stop natives from selling smokes so really all this would potentially do is force the few smokers not buying from natives to switch to cheaper native cigarettes.
patt on
Support for rampant smuggling ‚being looked into‘.
Banning things people are used to enjoying never works.
Attack demand, not supply.
DisorientedViking on
Maybe they should put a ban on murder, stranger attacks, domestic violence against women, drug dealing and all of our societies issues, cuz right now that’s a free for all with no consequences, of course this is granted by our kangaroo progressive courts.
But hey let’s focus on banning darts so we can push it underground and enable the criminal element to clean up on selling smokes.
---0celot--- on
There was a hilarious episode of “Yes, Minister” that explained the governments internal opinion on the matter. I believe it’s S2E7.
Some of the reasoning: Cigarettes generate billions in tax revenue.
* Smokers tend to die earlier, which means:
* They don’t draw pensions as long
* They require less long-term NHS (it was a UK show) care, especially for costly elderly illnesses.
* Therefore, smokers are described (in chilling bureaucratic language) as:
“A most effective form of voluntary euthanasia.”
mr_shaboobies on
Why would we treat cigarette’s any different to vapes and weed? It’s already restricted in all interior public spaces and most people already don’t like it. Why bother dealing with something that is slowly going away on its own?
wrongwayup on
Ironic that we spent like 40 years weaning the country off smoking cigarettes only to legalize smoking weed.
1UpMonk on
I’m against cigarettes since they are very unhealthy but I’m also against the government telling a grown person what they can and can’t consume.
themoist on
Every construction site is already full of guys hacking rez darts because packs at the gas station got too expensive. You may as well keep the tax revenue stream, you’ll never eliminate smoking completely
penis-muncher785 on
Hmm I see carney came back with the uk nanny state as well
Nonamanadus on
Good fucking luck, you be losing tax dollars to the reserves, which is happening already.
People are adults, death by alcohol or cigarettes is slow. Tax it.
Maybe instead do like Australia did and legalize prostitution. Get women off the streets away from the pimps and make life safer for everyone. And tax it.
Prestigious-Car-4877 on
Okay. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it unhealthy? You bet. Are people gonna just buy native smokes? You betcha.
DeanersLastWeekend on
And how do we make up all that lost tax revenue? People will just buy even more of their smokes on reserves. Let adults be adults
Kingofcheeses on
Seems like the only time our government acts decisively is when they ban something that adults enjoy
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Not sure if a ban is really necessary. Smoking rates have been on a downward trend for quite some time now.
They need to ban single use vapes , hardly anyone even smokes
Sure. let’s legalize weed, decriminalize hard drugs, and then ban smokes.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I am already tired of this double-standard nanny state government.
Not sure banning things ever truly works and it’s rare for me to even smell cigarettes these days, I feel like the problem is sorting itself out.
Will they ban possession of tobacco products or just the ability to purchase them? What about growing it yourself (you’re allowed up to 15kg per year)?
How about the government doesn’t tell people what to do.
I don’t see this applying to native reserves so it will be completely useless.
I’m fine with smoking but make butt littering a federal crime. Shit make littering a crime in general.
Why even bother.
I mean we allow drug use in the open.
If we go this route, we might as well ban alcohol too because it’s far more harmful to society as a whole than cigarettes could have ever dreamed of being. This is just hypocritical bullshit.
Hello Quebec independence
Good ol prohibition. It works so well
I feel like there’s less new young smokers, and far more elderly that smoke even with health issues and in some case, with cancer/remission.
If you want good solutions to problems look away from the UK
What a joke, the governments in this country, provincial and federal, make absurd amount of tax revenue from tobacco sales. It’s billions of dollars a year and they have zero idea how to replace that revenue other than raise our taxes more.
If you’re worried about your health, do what I do, and don’t smoke cigarettes! Not sure why this government feels the need to ban it outright, considering the current regulations are perfectly effective. It’s not the governments job to control every aspect of your life.
It would feel odd in 30 years if two guys, one 49 years old and the other 48 go to buy a pack of smokes and the cashier can’t sell to the 48 year old.
That should drive up the number of people visiting the US.
Whatever. Create a black market and let the indigenous get rich, you’re never gonna stop people from smoking. Prohibition doesn’t work
I hate smoking, but we know bans don’t work. I’d rather see more measures put in place against vaping.
liberals try not to ban something for one day impossible challenge
Considering how much of the cost of smokes is taxes.. I wonder if itll cause an increase in taxes required to be collected
This is getting ridiculous. It really feels like a slippery slope now. I don’t even smoke and never plan to, but that’s not the point. We’ve got the social media ban coming. Like what’s next, are they gonna go after alcohol too? Where does it actually stop?
It just feels like constant government overreach, a little more every time. Now it’s just rule after rule and it never really goes the other direction.
Anyone else feel like this is going too far?
Look at australia and its black market, that’s exactly what’s going to happen if we ban it
Jesus, give the alberta separation cult another issue to go on.
This is absolute BS. How about they drop it and get back to more serious matters.
ETA reading the article- they’re looking at it but doesn’t sound like it’s concrete whatsoever. Was a response to a question about what the UK did which is ban it for people born after 2009. Would not impact current smokers.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again, mere disapproval of the majority can never justify using violence to prevent people from engaging in a fundamentally non-violent act. Every act of prohibition is an egregious violation of individual liberty. We are not free unless we are free to do stupid things that the majority disaproves of. Nothing any parliament or legislature says or does can ever make it wrong for individuals to poses and consume so-called ‚restricted‘ substances. The only thing the state achieves with acts of prohibition is to undermine its own legitimacy by demonstrating a failure to understand the limits of public authority.
This will do nothing other than give the black market a total monopoly over tobacco sales. Smoking and nicotine in use in general is on the rise among young people, and almost none get their tobacco from a government approved store, it’s simply too expensive. I’m part of Gen Z and a vast majority of people I know purchase tobacco, vapes and nicotine pouches on the native reserve for a fraction of the legal cost. A ban would be totally useless in preventing this.
Who buys legal cigarettes anymore anyway?
Not hard to get a carton on the rez for $40. This would impact nothing because there isn’t the political will to prosecute these cases. Contraband tobacco and cannabis are openly sold to anyone all over the country and none of that product is duty paid.
I really can’t see this doing anything in Canada besides annoying a few smokers. The few smokers I still know pretty much all buy native smokes because they are cheaper. There’s also no way they will stop natives from selling smokes so really all this would potentially do is force the few smokers not buying from natives to switch to cheaper native cigarettes.
Support for rampant smuggling ‚being looked into‘.
Banning things people are used to enjoying never works.
Attack demand, not supply.
Maybe they should put a ban on murder, stranger attacks, domestic violence against women, drug dealing and all of our societies issues, cuz right now that’s a free for all with no consequences, of course this is granted by our kangaroo progressive courts.
But hey let’s focus on banning darts so we can push it underground and enable the criminal element to clean up on selling smokes.
There was a hilarious episode of “Yes, Minister” that explained the governments internal opinion on the matter. I believe it’s S2E7.
Some of the reasoning: Cigarettes generate billions in tax revenue.
* Smokers tend to die earlier, which means:
* They don’t draw pensions as long
* They require less long-term NHS (it was a UK show) care, especially for costly elderly illnesses.
* Therefore, smokers are described (in chilling bureaucratic language) as:
“A most effective form of voluntary euthanasia.”
Why would we treat cigarette’s any different to vapes and weed? It’s already restricted in all interior public spaces and most people already don’t like it. Why bother dealing with something that is slowly going away on its own?
Ironic that we spent like 40 years weaning the country off smoking cigarettes only to legalize smoking weed.
I’m against cigarettes since they are very unhealthy but I’m also against the government telling a grown person what they can and can’t consume.
Every construction site is already full of guys hacking rez darts because packs at the gas station got too expensive. You may as well keep the tax revenue stream, you’ll never eliminate smoking completely
Hmm I see carney came back with the uk nanny state as well
Good fucking luck, you be losing tax dollars to the reserves, which is happening already.
People are adults, death by alcohol or cigarettes is slow. Tax it.
Maybe instead do like Australia did and legalize prostitution. Get women off the streets away from the pimps and make life safer for everyone. And tax it.
Okay. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it unhealthy? You bet. Are people gonna just buy native smokes? You betcha.
And how do we make up all that lost tax revenue? People will just buy even more of their smokes on reserves. Let adults be adults
Seems like the only time our government acts decisively is when they ban something that adults enjoy