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  1. shiftless_wonder on

    >The data also showed that 11,586 people saw a doctor between 51 and 100 times in 2024, while 1,611 Quebecers had 100 or more appointments.
    Across the other provinces, B.C. noted 14,497 patients who visited a doctor between 51 and 100 times; Alberta had 25,767, Saskatchewan had 31, and Manitoba had 560.
    When it came to more than 100 appointments per person, B.C. recorded 241 patients, Alberta had 9,331, Saskatchewan had one, and Manitoba had 40.

    *Hypochondriacs be loving life in Alberta.

  2. Vegemite-Sandwich901 on

    The piece does not mention whether or not billing fraud is a possibility, but some of those numbers strain credulity. If I were investigating fraud, I’d start at the top of the list and work my way down.

  3. Yellow_Marker_ on

    Since this includes hospital billings, if the patient was hospitalized for 6 months and seen by multiple doctors per day, wouldn’t that bump it up super high?

  4. planetearthling on

    Institute user fees – $10 per visit – it’s not a barrier if you need to see a doctor for a legit reason to come up with $10 – but it will slow down some of this abhorrent abuse.

  5. In hospitals we call them frequent fliers. Sometimes you’ll see patients that head to ED or urgent care 1-3 times a day, every day for many weeks in a row.

  6. I’ve been saying this forever, add a nominal user fee. My 97 year old grandmother has a call with her doctor every week on his insistence. This has been going on for 15 years. She’s mostly healthy and doesn’t require anywhere near 52 consultations a year. She doesn’t object because she’s old and appreciates having someone care about her/someone to complain to. If she had to pay 2$ for the call she would refuse to do it.

  7. heboofedonme on

    Wait until you find out what we spend on sending paramedic to mentally ill people who are not in an emergency.

  8. IF that’s a real person doing real appointments, they need the underlying issue worked on by a psychologist.

  9. Redbroomstick on

    Last time I saw my doctor was probably 3-4 years ago lmao. Who has time for all these visits 😂

  10. JohnAMcdonald on

    How did they get 362 appointments? Doctors go on vacation too, this person was seeing a doctor multiple times per day?

    As others said, this smells like billing fraud.

  11. iLikeDinosaursRoar on

    So I went to a ENT specialist 2 weeks and I am still trying to figure out how to report, cause there is 150% chance they are committing some bullshit. It was a patient mill. I got there 10.kina before my appointment and they had 15ish chairs in the waiting room and they were all full, then there was another dozen people outside the waiting room waiting. No one got more than 2-3 mins tops with the doctor, after waiting an hour passed my appointment time, the doctor didn’t listen to me and argued with me about my symptoms. It was unreal. Just a giant patient mill. Then they tried to make me wait longer to get a hearing test, likely another service they will then bill OHIP. There was no quality service being done here. Just pumping as many patients through as possible.

  12. AbraxasTuring on

    He wins! I have healthy cousins in the Eastern Townships that have been waiting 7+ years for a family doctor assignment from RAMQ.

    Ouatte de phoque?

  13. Technical_Goose_8160 on

    I know that this is supposed to be rage bait. But I don’t care. If you got that many appointments in a year, I’m being that there’s something wrong with you.

  14. Psychrometers on

    I live in BC, and haven’t seen a doctor since 2017, I’m on a waiting list since 2021.

  15. I was in and out of doctors, specialists, etc all through 2023 but in my defense, my large intestine was trying to kill me.

  16. Ah, yes, that’s Doctor’s Visit Jacques. He’s responsible for driving up the average visit per patient for Quebec.

  17. meme__machine on

    Some old people just like to go out and talk to someone. I’ve seen it as a dentist. Just something to go out and do for them, they catch up with my assistant. Ask about vague aches in their teeth. We talk. They leave happy. Probably not the 362 visit case but it happens.

  18. OneAppointment5951 on

    I see my Quebec Family Doctor ever 2 months about ( thats usually how often I can get an appointment. On my carnet sante it usually shows that in 1 visit it was billed for 3 separate instances. Some days it looks like 2-3 examinations and each is billed. This could be because my doctor deals with all my issues at once (I usually see her for an hour). Even in the ER I have up to 7 billing instances in 1 visit. These are under “medical services paid on a fee-for-service basis to my health professional by RAMQ”. So while in the ER being sent to radiology is on that list as billed to the health professional. Not sure if this is relevant to how things are calculated in the article. But to me it sounds like a misunderstanding of how the data is collected or fraud.

  19. KorgothBarbaria on

    and how many Quebecers didn’t even get to see 1 in a year? Yeah…

  20. Icy_Lawfulness_2699 on

    Quebec has this a lot. Remember the Tesla dealership in Quebec sold 10MM Tesla over one day before the rebate cancellation?

  21. ReallyBadAtReddit on

    Nice to see that they got 3 sick days where they didn’t have to go into the doctor’s office

  22. crafty_alias on

    These numbers are INSANE. Can anyone explain how this could be in any way legitimate? Thats 1-2 times per week per year.

    The data also showed that 11,586 people saw a doctor between 51 and 100 times in 2024, while 1,611 Quebecers had 100 or more appointments.

    Across the other provinces, B.C. noted 14,497 patients who visited a doctor between 51 and 100 times.

  23. Instead of focusing on edge cases all the time, can we please just have a system that works? Now we’re going to spend even more resources to find out that a couple people cheated the system, a couple people are hypochondriacs, a couple people were justified. When we could just focus on providing healthcare for people instead.

    People are actually dying or having severely impacted quality of life. But we’re looking at who to punish next. First it was the doctors, now it’s the patients.

  24. TurbulentHead5639 on

    Yep can say we have patients that are frequent fliers to the ER dept – living in a small community we get familiar with them and can say most abuse the system

  25. huskypuppers on

    This is absolutely crazy. Like, how are people going 50+ times a year, nevermind 300+? Could be fraud I suppose, but then it seems like a pretty widespread issue.

    I am fortunate enough to have a family doctor but the last time I saw him was in 2021 and the time before that was in 2015 or 2016.

  26. WarmScientist5297 on

    Yes, that’s my sister. Her name is Sarah. She’s been doing this for years. She’s called a hypochondriac.

  27. Is this why I have to go to fucking emerg or a clinic because my doctor can’t see me?

  28. theangleofdarkness99 on

    And here I am standing outside the drop-in clinic in a multi-hour queue, just hoping I can see a doctor before they close.

  29. Crazy_Maintenance211 on

    What is a family doctor? I haven’t had one in over six years and have no hope of getting one. They’re lucky they had one. Also, in the maritime you won’t see those stats because many of us don’t have a doctor and it would be the online Virtual stats and that’s whoever gets your call, it’s not the same person

  30. These are absurd numbers.

    But latley I am going to the doctor waaaay more than I should because they require appointments for refills and my refills need to be redone every 3 months and they only get paid for that work if its an appointment.

    So those tacked on to just regular appointments, needing to see them for sick notes.

    I probably go to the doctor for bullshit busy work reasons about 4/5 times and I hate it. But i don’t get care if I don’t.

    Still it doesn’t add up to more than 10 even on a bad year.

  31. Meanwhile I’ve been on the waiting list for 10 years to get a family doctor…

  32. I wonder if the patient went once a week but had 8-10 concerns per appointment 

    Or, the doctor said „come back if it gets worse“ 10 times before doing anything for the patient

  33. Here in Ontario it takes 3 weeks to get an online appt with my family doc…probably didn’t include Ontario since the rates are likely abysmal.

  34. Looks like BC and especially Alberta have even bigger problems than Quebec.

    >The data also showed that 11,586 people saw a doctor between 51 and 100 times in 2024, while 1,611 Quebecers had 100 or more appointments.

    >Across the other provinces, B.C. noted 14,497 patients who visited a doctor between 51 and 100 times; Alberta had **25,767**, Saskatchewan had 31, and Manitoba had 560.

    >When it came to more than 100 appointments per person, B.C. recorded 241 patients, Alberta had **9,331**, Saskatchewan had one, and Manitoba had 40.

  35. OnceSawABear on

    Given how many Canadians are living without a family doctor; I don’t see anything wrong at capping visits (obviously with exceptions for the chronically ill). After you hit the cap, you go to walk-in’s the ER like those without a doctor.

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