Labour-Abgeordnete kritisieren den Grünen-Abgeordneten, der Alkohol am Arbeitsplatz anprangert
https://www.thenational.scot/news/26054709.labour-mps-attack-hannah-spencer-alcohol-comments/
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Labour-Abgeordnete kritisieren den Grünen-Abgeordneten, der Alkohol am Arbeitsplatz anprangert
https://www.thenational.scot/news/26054709.labour-mps-attack-hannah-spencer-alcohol-comments/
Von Rmtcts
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Crazy for people to think it’s fine to be having drinks between votes while your supposed to be working. Saw someone justify it as they work really late into the night. I’ve worked jobs with long hours working late into the night as well, still would get fired in a heartbeat if I decided to have a drink in the middle of a shift!
I know a few people who have been on various quangos and they all said the same thing as her.
I say ‘the same thing’, she was actually quite circumspect in not calling out the rampant coke use.
In any other workplace, drinking on the job is a sackable offence (potentially criminal I would argue depending on the circumstances).
But no, MPs and their staff deserve to be able to drink on the job because of all the ???????? that they do.
Not suggesting this is a „let them eat cake“ moment, but some of if the behaviours of politicians does sometimes reek in that direction.
40 years ago, fire fighters drank at work, in fact there were bars on station! You’d be sacked for drinking while at work now, or turning up under the influence of alcohol or other drugs. Times change, shame Westminster hasn’t changed with them.
Not helping the rampant alcoholism accusations with immediate denial of the problem.
I don’t really see a major issue with people drinking in roles like this, within reason. Being an MP isn’t a typical 9-to-5 job; it’s built as much on relationships and informal discussions as it is on formal debates and votes. In that context having a beer at lunch or a glass of wine while talking through strategy or concerns around an upcoming vote doesn’t seem out of place or wrong. It’s not that different from industries like finance or insurance, where relationship-building is a huge part of the job and often has a social element. In the UK especially that social side frequently includes alcohol.
That said there’s an obvious line. I’m not suggesting MPs should be knocking back multiple whiskies at 11am and then stumbling into the chamber to sleep it off on a back bench. But moderate social drinking as part of relationship-building? That not problematic to me.
If you happen to see an MP ‚in the wild‘, it’s amazing how red-faced they often are. The really hardened boozers also have these pulpy, purple noses.
LoL I thought the comments would be ignored, I was wrong. I agree, they should not be able to drink between votes.
„Natalie Fleet, Labour MP for Bolsover said that while „working in a palace is mad“, the smell of „fags & beer“ is one of the things „that make it seem [a] tiny bit normal“
Where the fuck has she worked in the past, as most places if someone is working during the day and smells of alcohol that would raise some eyebrows.
I used to work with an obvious alcoholic Senior Manager, she would show up to meetings absolutely reeking of spirits, and lasted 2 weeks before they got rid of her.
These fucks have taken the piss for so long that they don’t even know they’re taking the piss.
No drinking on the job.
No accepting gifts of any sort.
No second jobs.
No joining the board of companies after you’re out of the job. You can *earn a job* like a normal human, if your qualifications are ‚ ex MP ‚ and nothing else you are absolutely not getting a job on the board of a defence firm paying you 2m a year. Genuinely get fucked with this flagrant corruption.
It’s not the 80s anymore you shouldn’t be drinking while you’re working. Especially if you’re running the country.
The photos of sleeping MPs makes more sense now. What a joke.
I think there’s been too many stories about MPs being drunk around Parliament.
I still have memories of Michael Gove struggling to stand in the chamber.
I have no issues with alcohol being available with a meal but apart from that i think I agree with others, it’s time for the bar to end.
I’m genuinely stunned that politicians think that criticising a fellow MP for being critical of the drinking culture is a flex.
No wonder the country is on its arse – its elected class is more concerned about being able to have a drink on the job, rather than making the country a better place.
Instead of subsidising politicians drinking habits, perhaps do something for the betterment of everyone, instead of 600 odd out of touch farts.
If the Greens come out against something – especially this young, working class female Green – you can bet these people will be in favour of it, no matter how weird it is.
„How dare you call us *hic* drunk- I resuscitate *hic* resuscitate *hic* resent those accusations“
I’ve been inside Eton, Oxford and Cambridge colleges and the HoP and they are all functionally and aesthetically the same. A big chummy public school boys club
MPs should stop being coddled, going cold turkey until they clock off is a reasonable minimum expectation. They work for people who do much harder jobs and don’t get special treatment in theirs.
When I worked at Wetherspoons/Lloyds I couldn’t drink on the job.
I was across the road from the HMRC building, and they all came in on their lunch break, a substantial amount would sink 2 or 3 pints before going back to work.
It was infuriating.
She is 100% in the right to call out the behaviour for what it is, and I would honestly endorse them closing the bars there. If they want a pint they can do it off duty, and outside of their workplace.
Not MPs and not drinking. But was working in defence policy a few tears ago just when Russia first invaded Ukraine. Had a meeting in Westminster with some lords part of a defence committee or something. Labour lord was serious, interesting, level headed. Conservative lord walked in late, sat down and first thing he says is „what if we nuke Moscow?“ If I had said that I would have lost my job instantly for saying in public such a stupid thing. Because he was a HOL geezer everyone just nodded and redirected. These people have no notion of consequences. Rules for thee but not for me.
Isn’t Hannah Spencer the MP that was accused of being unprofessional because she didn’t wear some awful suit?
And now they’re angry at her because she pointed out how unprofessional it is to drink at work?
After reading the comments the counter argument is; „I work a well paid white collar job where this is normal“.
A third of the UK is in some form of lower paid blue collar work where this would get you fired immediately. It’s not just MPs that are out of touch.
Absolute fucking scum, the things people do to keep the nation ticking and these lot throw their toys out the pram at being questioned around their ability to be drunk on the job. Politics is the most stupid thing in terms of expectation versus reality.
The people running this country and voting on our laws, should not be fucking drinking while doing so.
I feel like Labour MPs especially are made insecure by someone co-opting from them the ‚came from a working class background‘ narrative. Hannah’s making perfectly reasonable comments here; the culture of being able to drink freely at work is, for the vast majority of people, several decades into the past, and yet here are Labour MPs absolutely losing their mind at the perceived slight.
It doesn’t take a genius to work out the culture of Westminster is completely out of touch from everyday Britain. Well done Hannah for calling it out, we need more people like her in parliament.
We’d very quickly find out how many alcoholics we have ruling us if it were banned.
And yet so many of them are against working from home because people might not sit at the desk the whole time, they might *gasp* go have sex, or pop to the shops or.. omg… do the school run!
meanwhile these assholes are having a boozeup on the clock.
Remember, there are snuff boxes in parliament, they may not have snuff in them anymore but the tradition of taking shit while on the job is an old old tradition for the British government.
I don’t necessarily think a little bit of social drinking is harmful, but there’s no way parliament should be exempt from „good“ working practices. You can’t drink in other jobs, why should this be different? Do it after work like everyone else.
Criticising someone for pointing out how weird it is is just stupid. If they’d held other jobs recently before parliament they’d understand.
It’s not really about the wine, is it?
It’s the fact that anyone else turning up to work pissed would be out the door, but somehow in Westminster it gets treated like a charming little tradition.
Nurses, teachers, drivers, shop workers — nobody else gets to say “well, it was only a few drinks” and carry on making decisions that affect people’s lives.
Maybe the place feels so out of touch because it is.