* Straight white males at Memorial University in Newfoundland and Labrador are being excluded from applying for several tenured professor jobs.
* According to five April job postings advertised by the St. John’s university, only current employees and those who identify as members of one or more employment equity groups, including women, 2SLGBTQIA+ people, Indigenous peoples, racialized persons, and persons with disabilities, can apply.
————–
**See a an image of the job posting here:** [https://archive.ph/vElfd](https://archive.ph/vElfd)
Imagine if the job postings stipulated „Straight white men only need apply“.
Titsfortuesday on
Just lie about being bisexual, they’ll never be able to prove it and it seems to work fine for asylum seekers.
Uncertn_Laaife on
Just say you are Bisexual, plain and simple.
Living_Armadillo_652 on
This is bad. There are almost no other developed countries in the world that explicitly bar non-minorities from even applying to a general academic position. Canada has to choose if it wants to become a top tier destination for academics, or focus on „equity“ at the expense of national security and global competitiveness. To put it bluntly, if Canada can’t hire a top AI researcher because they don’t happen to fulfill whichever equity demographic profile needs to be recruited at some point, that is really bad.
GrassyTreesAndLakes on
Racism with extra steps
JollyAstronomer on
I feel like this just creates more divide. But who am I to say anything.
Knukehhh on
My cousin went to university and got his psychology degree. Then was going through the motions to join the Edmonton police. He attended a large conference that the police force put in for individuals wanting to join the force. First thing they said was, if you are a 6′ white male we dont want you.
Pathetic is the only word for places like this. How about we go back to the days of hiring based on qualifications and experience. Who cares what color your skin is, height, what ever pronoun you prefer. Hire whoever is best suited for the fuckin job.
ComparisonOk5957 on
Sharing this article from October. It concerns UBC, but this is a standard practice across Canada now.
Here’s the best quote:
„I was outraged upon discovering this clause in the post and yet when I pointed this out to a friend in academia, he was completely non-plussed:
“Sometimes it can be frustrating from my position when I’m ineligible for a position, but I’m not foaming at the mouth because of it. [These kinds of restrictions] are not uncommon.”
“Wow.. the defeatism” I thought. The ridiculous acceptance of this kind of policy as just another fact of life.The notion that people have learned to incorporate discrimination against them into their professional landscape is jarring. I’m certainly not foaming at the mouth, but I am highly concerned that these racist and sexist policies have seemingly become a feature of the zeitgeist.“
PS, feel free to post this on the r/canada sub directly if anyone wants – I don’t have the karma
Knukehhh on
Fighting racism with racism. Makes sense.
marxistdictator on
Anti racism was always more racism, this is just the mask off end game where they don’t even pretend anymore.
AngryTrucker on
So they won’t be promoting the most qualified people for the position.
BrightEdge8171 on
Human Rights violation??
PureInsaneAmbition on
So, racism and sexism is okay now?
discovery2000one on
When a society decides people’s rights aren’t important, they decide that their responsibilities to the society aren’t important.
Without that contract things don’t go well.
ChiefRunningBit on
This is the result of culture being the only thing the ruling class can influence. A Trojan horse that exists only to shift the narrative away from class warfare and towards a performance of progress without actually ever improving. The system that created a space of primarily white men still exists, it’s just been altered to allow a modicum of what they deem as separate humans to join the upper classes while also keeping an opening for tribalistic backlash to make sure the machine continues to grind us into meat.
Embarrassed_Syrup476 on
My friend ran into this problem. White male. In his next application he lied and said he is indigenous through his mom. No one questioned it and he got the job..
PastaPandaSimon on
As someone with many left-leaning economic beliefs, this is such a blunder, because you can’t have things like this that totally exclude straight and white men from participating in what should be a merit-based role, and also be surprised or think it’s some consipiracy that straight men are being pushed to the right that happens to accept and welcome them with a beer.
Hawco3 on
r/Newfoundland defended the hell out of this the other day.
This just cheapens the accomplishments of nominees, incentivizes lying to qualify for the position, and erodes faith in the purported meritocracy of academia leading to distrust in scientific and academic institutions as a whole.
kookiemaster on
Serious question. How are they going to verify sexual orientation?
comox on
DEE: Diversity, Equity and Exclusion.
moezilla on
Leftist feminist here.
Who is asking for this? Because it sure isn’t me.
the best way to ensure fairness in hiring is if it’s blind to sex/race/sexuality. This ain’t it.
scottsuplol on
Remember folks it’s not racist or sexist if it’s against caucasian males
ProudVancouverLL on
I’m sure the CBC will bring this up the next time they do a special report on the rise of white supremacy.
TrickyLobster on
They’ve gone from „preference“ to „only“ now, eh? I had this happen to me applying for a federal government job a year or two ago. „Priority has been given to applicants who are from equity deserving communities“ after a great interview.
This country continues to be a joke.
SudoDarkKnight on
I’ll always be gay when the opportunity to add that for hiring purposes is asked
SpermicidalLube on
This is obviously unrational discrimination.
Everyone interested should identify as bisexual and apply anyways.
Unhappy_Hedgehog_808 on
Great policy, keep giving people more reason to be resentful. Historically it’s worked out so well.
JarvisFunk on
It’s okay because discrimination against straight white men is allowed. Groovy!
Magistricide on
This is just racist and sexist?
Not that the colour of my skin should matter, but I am a „minority“
VegitoFusion on
Honestly, if places keep doing stuff this, the pendulum is going to swing back much further than where it was. Are they really this ignorant to not realize what the consequences are?
EP40glazer on
btw, to everyone who said „woke is just having empathy“ when PP said he was going to deal with the woke universities during the election this is what he meant.
Allekssanderr on
Man this is crazy !
kemar7856 on
Example of why I don’t agree with dei initiatives it’s discriminating and putting people in positions they shouldn’t be in
Ju_ju_nanananana on
This is evident in a lot of academics and service sectors .. In the name of diversity people are deliberately leaving out people of majority… In merit based systems this should not prevail
Outrageous_Order_197 on
How is this not a direct human rights code violation?
bulkoin on
When these things pile up, they eventually lead to a backlash like the rise of Trump.
Time_Zombie_4431 on
And this country continues to become dumber and dumber by the day…….
ThicccThunder on
Imagine trying to solve equality by promoting discrimination
Unlucky_Accountant71 on
I have no energy for this bs anymore
What is happening
Frosty-Tell-6290 on
Racism in Canada really peaked over the last couple of years. It’s just not where they think it is.
Hekios888 on
This reminds me of job postings at my school board.
„Applicants from equity deserving groups will be considered first…“
Who is not equity deserving?
FreeWilly1337 on
How is it legal to ask someone’s sexual orientation?
CobraCornelius on
This kind of policy is a problem, and we know better. I can admit that this is not a huge problem, but it is problematic nonetheless.
It is scary for me to share my thoughts about this, because I recognize there are systemic problems that are directly caused by patriarchy and many people will be ready and willing to immediately attack me for my opinion.
My experience with policie, like this one, has mainly been when I am applying for grants for media/arts. For example, most film grants are accessed through online application forms. The very first questions are usually; „Do you identify as a member any of the following groups: Indigenous, Non-Binary, People with Disabilities…etc? Do you identify as straight or LGBTQ? Are you a man or a woman?“
These questions are creating barriers to exclude a certain targeted demographic: straight white males.
When an applicant is asked to justify their existence in this manner, we have already objectified the applicants before considering the content and merits of their work.
In our race for inclusion we have decided that we should exclude straight white males. I understand the poetic justice of „giving you a taste of your own medicine“, but in the end I think this brings us further away from our goal of inclusion. Policies like this are just further cementing the divide that created the problems of non-inclusion in the first place.
It feels weird to have to stand up for myself and say: „Hey, maybe straight white males should be included too!“ Maybe that sounds stupid. Maybe people don’t want to hear that kind of rhetoric.
Anyways, the generations of straight white men who came before me caused many problems and now I will pay the price for their ignorance.
Aquestingfart on
Didn’t realize Newfoundland was so racist, nor discriminated against people for their sexual orientation.
elatllat on
Reads like they said the quiet part out loud. The government has been providing funding for University and such strictly on these conditions but generally it doesn’t make it all the way to the job application explicitly.
Pierre Trudeau made racism (affirmative action) Canadian law in 1985.
Mapag on
And they want support from white men also?
Pikachu face when far right rise !
TheBlackRonin505 on
So, racism?
Raffix on
Just like affirmative action in the past, this is blatant racism.
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**In Brief:**
* Straight white males at Memorial University in Newfoundland and Labrador are being excluded from applying for several tenured professor jobs.
* According to five April job postings advertised by the St. John’s university, only current employees and those who identify as members of one or more employment equity groups, including women, 2SLGBTQIA+ people, Indigenous peoples, racialized persons, and persons with disabilities, can apply.
————–
**See a an image of the job posting here:** [https://archive.ph/vElfd](https://archive.ph/vElfd)
Imagine if the job postings stipulated „Straight white men only need apply“.
Just lie about being bisexual, they’ll never be able to prove it and it seems to work fine for asylum seekers.
Just say you are Bisexual, plain and simple.
This is bad. There are almost no other developed countries in the world that explicitly bar non-minorities from even applying to a general academic position. Canada has to choose if it wants to become a top tier destination for academics, or focus on „equity“ at the expense of national security and global competitiveness. To put it bluntly, if Canada can’t hire a top AI researcher because they don’t happen to fulfill whichever equity demographic profile needs to be recruited at some point, that is really bad.
Racism with extra steps
I feel like this just creates more divide. But who am I to say anything.
My cousin went to university and got his psychology degree. Then was going through the motions to join the Edmonton police. He attended a large conference that the police force put in for individuals wanting to join the force. First thing they said was, if you are a 6′ white male we dont want you.
Pathetic is the only word for places like this. How about we go back to the days of hiring based on qualifications and experience. Who cares what color your skin is, height, what ever pronoun you prefer. Hire whoever is best suited for the fuckin job.
Sharing this article from October. It concerns UBC, but this is a standard practice across Canada now.
Here’s the best quote:
„I was outraged upon discovering this clause in the post and yet when I pointed this out to a friend in academia, he was completely non-plussed:
“Sometimes it can be frustrating from my position when I’m ineligible for a position, but I’m not foaming at the mouth because of it. [These kinds of restrictions] are not uncommon.”
“Wow.. the defeatism” I thought. The ridiculous acceptance of this kind of policy as just another fact of life.The notion that people have learned to incorporate discrimination against them into their professional landscape is jarring. I’m certainly not foaming at the mouth, but I am highly concerned that these racist and sexist policies have seemingly become a feature of the zeitgeist.“
[https://www.accordingto.ca/white-men-need-not-apply/](https://www.accordingto.ca/white-men-need-not-apply/)
PS, feel free to post this on the r/canada sub directly if anyone wants – I don’t have the karma
Fighting racism with racism. Makes sense.
Anti racism was always more racism, this is just the mask off end game where they don’t even pretend anymore.
So they won’t be promoting the most qualified people for the position.
Human Rights violation??
So, racism and sexism is okay now?
When a society decides people’s rights aren’t important, they decide that their responsibilities to the society aren’t important.
Without that contract things don’t go well.
This is the result of culture being the only thing the ruling class can influence. A Trojan horse that exists only to shift the narrative away from class warfare and towards a performance of progress without actually ever improving. The system that created a space of primarily white men still exists, it’s just been altered to allow a modicum of what they deem as separate humans to join the upper classes while also keeping an opening for tribalistic backlash to make sure the machine continues to grind us into meat.
My friend ran into this problem. White male. In his next application he lied and said he is indigenous through his mom. No one questioned it and he got the job..
As someone with many left-leaning economic beliefs, this is such a blunder, because you can’t have things like this that totally exclude straight and white men from participating in what should be a merit-based role, and also be surprised or think it’s some consipiracy that straight men are being pushed to the right that happens to accept and welcome them with a beer.
r/Newfoundland defended the hell out of this the other day.
This just cheapens the accomplishments of nominees, incentivizes lying to qualify for the position, and erodes faith in the purported meritocracy of academia leading to distrust in scientific and academic institutions as a whole.
Serious question. How are they going to verify sexual orientation?
DEE: Diversity, Equity and Exclusion.
Leftist feminist here.
Who is asking for this? Because it sure isn’t me.
the best way to ensure fairness in hiring is if it’s blind to sex/race/sexuality. This ain’t it.
Remember folks it’s not racist or sexist if it’s against caucasian males
I’m sure the CBC will bring this up the next time they do a special report on the rise of white supremacy.
They’ve gone from „preference“ to „only“ now, eh? I had this happen to me applying for a federal government job a year or two ago. „Priority has been given to applicants who are from equity deserving communities“ after a great interview.
This country continues to be a joke.
I’ll always be gay when the opportunity to add that for hiring purposes is asked
This is obviously unrational discrimination.
Everyone interested should identify as bisexual and apply anyways.
Great policy, keep giving people more reason to be resentful. Historically it’s worked out so well.
It’s okay because discrimination against straight white men is allowed. Groovy!
This is just racist and sexist?
Not that the colour of my skin should matter, but I am a „minority“
Honestly, if places keep doing stuff this, the pendulum is going to swing back much further than where it was. Are they really this ignorant to not realize what the consequences are?
btw, to everyone who said „woke is just having empathy“ when PP said he was going to deal with the woke universities during the election this is what he meant.
Man this is crazy !
Example of why I don’t agree with dei initiatives it’s discriminating and putting people in positions they shouldn’t be in
This is evident in a lot of academics and service sectors .. In the name of diversity people are deliberately leaving out people of majority… In merit based systems this should not prevail
How is this not a direct human rights code violation?
When these things pile up, they eventually lead to a backlash like the rise of Trump.
And this country continues to become dumber and dumber by the day…….
Imagine trying to solve equality by promoting discrimination
I have no energy for this bs anymore
What is happening
Racism in Canada really peaked over the last couple of years. It’s just not where they think it is.
This reminds me of job postings at my school board.
„Applicants from equity deserving groups will be considered first…“
Who is not equity deserving?
How is it legal to ask someone’s sexual orientation?
This kind of policy is a problem, and we know better. I can admit that this is not a huge problem, but it is problematic nonetheless.
It is scary for me to share my thoughts about this, because I recognize there are systemic problems that are directly caused by patriarchy and many people will be ready and willing to immediately attack me for my opinion.
My experience with policie, like this one, has mainly been when I am applying for grants for media/arts. For example, most film grants are accessed through online application forms. The very first questions are usually; „Do you identify as a member any of the following groups: Indigenous, Non-Binary, People with Disabilities…etc? Do you identify as straight or LGBTQ? Are you a man or a woman?“
These questions are creating barriers to exclude a certain targeted demographic: straight white males.
When an applicant is asked to justify their existence in this manner, we have already objectified the applicants before considering the content and merits of their work.
In our race for inclusion we have decided that we should exclude straight white males. I understand the poetic justice of „giving you a taste of your own medicine“, but in the end I think this brings us further away from our goal of inclusion. Policies like this are just further cementing the divide that created the problems of non-inclusion in the first place.
It feels weird to have to stand up for myself and say: „Hey, maybe straight white males should be included too!“ Maybe that sounds stupid. Maybe people don’t want to hear that kind of rhetoric.
Anyways, the generations of straight white men who came before me caused many problems and now I will pay the price for their ignorance.
Didn’t realize Newfoundland was so racist, nor discriminated against people for their sexual orientation.
Reads like they said the quiet part out loud. The government has been providing funding for University and such strictly on these conditions but generally it doesn’t make it all the way to the job application explicitly.
Pierre Trudeau made racism (affirmative action) Canadian law in 1985.
And they want support from white men also?
Pikachu face when far right rise !
So, racism?
Just like affirmative action in the past, this is blatant racism.