Ich hasse es, dass von uns erwartet wird, dass wir einfach das Mainstream-Narrativ akzeptieren und nichts über unsere Geschichte in Frage stellen dürfen. Sollen wir glauben, dass Menschen schon immer dumm waren?
Angeblich gibt es den modernen Menschen seit 300.000 Jahren, aber irgendwie wird von mir erwartet, dass er glaubt, dass er keinerlei Fortschritte gemacht und nichts erfunden hat. Außer in den letzten tausend Jahren oder so?
Von Secret_Bug_9795
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It’s not stupidity. It’s the whole infrastructure needed to bootstrap inventions and improve precision. Hard to invent an engine when you can’t manufacture the raw components. Always hard to move up a grade in precision. How do you make +/- 0.001” components when you’re building with +/- 0.01”?
Go read a book
Interchangeable machine parts really started to become the standard in the 1800s. It was the start of precision fabrication, which led to the massive technology developments.
What scholars have you read about the development of technology that you specifically disagree with? Surely you don’t just disagree with something because you read about it on the internet, or you have some superficial knowledge of it, (and it clearly brought a question to mind) so I am assuming that you took a little bit off time to look into how technologies developed. I am fascinated by the development of technologies from the earliest stone technologies through the bronze and iron ages. The things they could do in medieval times were marvelously fascinating. And then you start looking at what china was doing and how technologies came together, merging. Anyway, I am always on the hunt for new literature, and you seem so sure and confident in your post that I’d love a list of your favorite books or scholars on the topic.
Thanks in advance.
1. It took us 1500 to manage a peaceful enough world to assure the raw materials were always available everywhere
2. Knowledge is much available to everybody, where once we had agencies that saw their secrets, like greek fire, being lost for a lack of use and funding, now we have patents to make sure that doesn’t happen
And more… probably
You’re dumb and don’t understand compounding.
Ignorance isn’t the same as a conspiracy.
What is interesting is, humans had steam engine tech in 1st Century Rome. All you need is to heat water and use the steam to move a turbine.
What was needed was Scottish inventor James Watt. He was the one to really make the steam engine worth something to everyone. There is a reason Watts is named after him.
I think he’s asking, how did we go from horses and carriages to flying vehicles. Its the idea not the literal building of it. Is what I think he means. How did we suddenly have the urge to build such contarptions? I know “its because the possibilities became, well, possible though the industrial revolution.”
But what gave scientists the idea for rocket/jet propulsions? Wink wink
Wouldn’t it make more sense to use a military vehicle in your „1800s“ example? Like the Simms motor scout or something. Heck, the SMS Vulcano is mid 1800s and served as a nascent military aircraft carrier, though the aircraft were basically just floating bombs and it didn’t work all that well.
It’s not stupidity. There were inventions like the printing press that made it easier for people to share knowledge and make advancements. The more people you share knowledge with, the less time it takes for innovations to be reaped from it. China is a good example of it. Their laxed IP laws have allowed them to catch up to the US quickly.
Everything is a conspiracy when you don’t know how anything works.
IIRC Da Vinci or some ancient scholar/engineer had schematics for what looked and functioned an awful lot like a helicopter.
Lucifer’s Technologies.
It’s all about getting things from the gods. Always have been.
google the word exponential
For centuries there was oppression on scientific community in the jame of religion around the world.
You’ve gotta look into the specifics: what was required to develop X technology — economically, intellectually, institutionally. There are reasons why it takes a long time to figure out the basics and then once you get rolling, you really get rolling. It took tens of thousands of years in the beginning just to figure out agriculture. 1,500 years to figure out modern metallurgy and weapons and workshops and all the shit that happened between bottom left and right is already an incredible acceleration — many times faster than the preceding 1,500
No, people were just chill as fuck for 1500 years. No need to go any faster.
Moores Law
300 → 500: better roads, bridges, water systems; large states can coordinate at a level earlier people couldn’t imagine.
500 → 700: stirrups and better saddles spread; mounted combat becomes way deadlier and more controlled.
700 → 900: paper and algebra spread; people can now record, calculate, and share knowledge properly.
900 → 1100: heavy plough and horse collar spread; people can now specialise in things that aren’t farming.
1100 → 1300: mechanical clocks and eyeglasses appear; timekeeping and precision suddenly get way better.
1300 → 1500: gunpowder and printing spread; war and information both get rewritten.
1500 → 1700: better ships, navigation, and instruments spread; the world gets connected on a totally different scale.
1700 → 1800: steam engines and early industry arrive; power is no longer limited to muscle, wind, or water.
If you actually read history you’d be amazed at the wonders human kind has been capable of
This guy can vote
check out the industrial revolution, might answer some questions for you. Also Moore’s law explains some things
[Wiki has a good page on this topic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change)
Technology increases at an exponential rate. Go back with your examples and it becomes very obvious. From stone age hunter/gatherers to the bronze age was many millenia. Bronze age to iron age a few thousand years. Iron age to the space age, even less. We went from the first airplane flight to the first manned rocket under 100 years.
Imagine the army that had hardened steel meeting one with top shelf bronze armour, back in the day. They all had to have steel after that!
This leads us to believe we are on the cusp of a paradigm shift in our world. Cold fusion, zero point, a singularity… something. We went from everyone on horses to everyone in cars in 20 years.
You need to watch Dr. Stone.
The real one is from 1900-1970, from the first flight in 1903 to space in 1961 & moon landing 1969. In 70 years they went from flight to the moon, my Grandparents where born around in the 1920’s and saw the world change so fast.
Also the first stealth plain was the Lockheed A-12 in 1962, less than 200 years from cart to stealth.
Harnessing electricity really helped with everything. From there industry can flourish and manufacturing can exist. even earlier, The Printing press allowing information to be shared in a way that wasn’t some guy just trying to explain verbally how to do things was helpful. Long distance communication with the invention of morse code / phones etc. Not to mention population growth enabling more workers.
If simple progress leading to more rapid progress doesn’t make sense to you….that is a little embarrassing.
Also stating that nothing was invented outside of the last 1000 years is crazy. The base of almost every modern tool was created. capacity to refine metals (gold etc) for Egyptian „Gods“ 5000+ years ago. Mother fuckers built pyramids. Water wheels, the fucking wheel itself. Concrete. That is just physical stuff.
People invented language, maths, forms of government, justice etc.
sadly romans damn near discovered steam engines before they collapsed.
The difference is information availability. Writing, especially documenting, was not widespread. If you look at past technological leaps, it mainly can when people could share information (i.e., contact with other cultures) *and* add to that information creating knowledge. Once we wert about to communicate with each other faster (from years to months to days to minutes and now instantly) and having access to more information easier, game changer.
#Aliens
Some trees grow very little for years and then rapidly grow. Conspiracy
Has anyone explained to you the industrial revolution?
It’s crazy to me how the raw materials to make a microchip have basically existed for literally millions of years and we only made it less than 100 years ago. We just had to go through a lot of other tech and gradual discoveries and inventions first to get there.
Da Vinci invented the helicopter, but he lacked the materials science to make it. He also lacked the tooling.
Tooling is a big thing when it comes to precision works. You have to make the tools, to make more precise tools, that then make more precise tools, ad nauseum until you can actually do the precision work you need to do in order to make, for example, a revolver.