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    2. KageyK on

      Theres a better chance that burocracy and bloated budgets derail it before those damn rurals do.

    3. boomeradf on

      “They certainly have a right to express their fears about the impact of the 1,000-kilometre project, and the potential loss of their lands, businesses and livelihoods. “

      Do these morons not understand how the loss of their livelihoods is for the greater good? I mean a project that will never actually get finished and will likely cost much more than projected. They should be proud to sacrifice for such ambition.

    5. CanadianViking47 on

      Im neutral on the project but it would be hypocritical of me to think the east didn’t deserve it when i want infrastructure in the west like churchill, pipelines and nuclear i think we need to be bold and one of the few things my conservative rural nature leans left on is infrastructure especially large interprovincial 

      I do get rurals point on losing their land being heart breaking as my family lost land to eminent domain (expropriation) at an unfortunate land value time. But that just strengthened my views on projects for the nation shouldnt be able to be vetoed by small groups be it FN or Farmers. 

    10. Fountsy on

      It’s a bad plan though. It needs 24M riders a year to break even (Via gets 4M a year) going to destroy biodiversity and endangered species.

      Unlike traditional rail you can’t cross the tracks so it builds a high fence on either side. This cuts off wildlife migration patterns, and straight up cuts off roads for police, fire, ambulance (etc).

      It’s supposed to be done 2040, which means in Canada it’s 2050. High speed rail is good now, but in 25 years advances in aircraft alternate fuels and self driving electric cars means cheaper and better ways to travel. Tech is advancing and if we started HSR 20 years ago it would have been a good idea.

      I agree that the few shouldn’t stop the many in projects like these, but the article doesn’t even take into consideration that it’s not a good or sensible project in the first place.

      Here is an actual good article about the project that is balanced:

      Canada Wants High-Speed Rail. Megaproject Reality Wants a Word. – CleanTechnica https://share.google/q72DcQZSFGIfJj56z

      I think the emotion is getting the better of the sensibility of both sides of this argument.

      Here’s one that is clearly opposed but has some good perspective.

      ‚Not so fast:‘ Putting the brakes on the Alto high-speed rail line | The Kingston Whig Standard https://share.google/WoS50s5MW11db48Z4

    11. Zraknul on

      Conservatives keep saying we can’t build anything. Well here is their part. Can’t build transportation infrastructure.

    12. 8fmn on

      Just throwing my two cents in here as a „rural“ who lives along the proposed route. I see the pipeline comparison and the „many over the few“ arguments around this topic a lot. They’re valid arguments but they’re also over simplifying the issue. The HSR route is not going through scarcely populated land. The corridor is densely populated by rural standards with schools and other institutions at risk of being wiped out. I think this perspective gets lost in the discussion of what us „rurals“ are sacrificing for the benefit of the urban populations.

    13. onegunzo on

      Yeah, cutting their property in half or taking it away, shouldn’t be their concern. Right. Got it. Again, I’ve already floated this idea many times. The Boring Company should be commissioned to put the whole thing underground for a fraction of the cost. Everyone wins.

    14. nihiriju on

      What is going on in this sub? How many rural anti train people can we find? 

      It’s a train, not some crazy 100 acre wide endless landing strip. We’ve built thousands of km of train all across Canada to build the country. 

      Feels like some bot astro turfing coming out to sow discord. 

    15. RecordingNo2643 on

      Just remember whatever they say the price is gonna be…. in the end will be 3.5 times that amount.

    16. HotIntroduction8049 on

      Imagine trying to build the railway across canada a hundred + years ago with the current nimbys.

      my concern is the cost overruns and negative operating revenue from it. will be a forever money pit like every other true dough project. if the actual demand was there, it would be great!

      take the TGV in france, it goes through lots of ag land and does not have a large impact. the current design is dumb AF.

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