Pretty much the title. Iv seen such an increase in anti Israel sentiment over the past year. I don’t recall this much resentment. Is it justified and how will this change things long term?
dominatrixyummy on
In what context? Israel has been consistently viewed very negatively for its entire existence from the perspective of Middle East and Muslim majority countries.
OK-Dravrah7455 on
I’ve always thought both sides were at fault: „Israel shouldn’t have restricted Gaza and Gazans should quit being terrorists.“ But after 2.5 years of war, I can say my support for Palestine has died. The more I learn about the history, the more I support Israel. But hey, that’s just my personal view.
Guns_and_Tea on
I think social media has made anti-Israel sentiment feel bigger.
Israel has always been looked at as a pariah state, while also being courted by both the West and East during the Cold War. Ever since the War of Independence in 1948, Arab sentiment has been very “drive the Jews into the sea”.
Now you have a horseshoe effect of far-right and far-left both hating Israel for their own reasons.
exploringspace_ on
I think the images of cities in Gaza turned to complete rubble as far as the eye can see kind of changed public opinion.
fheathyr on
Under Netanyahu, Israel is fast becoming a global pariah, accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity, nations are withdrawing trade agreeements as they can no londer stomach the relationship. Even nations such as Canada who were previously strong supporters are officially voicing their concerns in increasingly blunt terms.
alien2sick on
I have always viewed isreal this way and was once called the black Cartman.
DukeandKate on
For the most part Israel has been viewed positively by Western countries. They were founded by refugees fleeing the Holocaust and fought several times to defend their nation.
For me it was the first intifada where young teenage Palestinians threw rocks at the Israeli army and were met with bullets that I realized there was a disparity and I took a more balanced view of the conflict.
There are no saints in the middle East.
meister2983 on
In america, yes. Fundamentally the biggest driver is that the Israeli population has grown quite right wing with respect to foreign policy and nationalism. This makes it naturally lose left-leaning people in the United States.
Ancient_Highway3636 on
It shifted dramatically.
Rashidi in his book, hundred years of war on Palestine , how he used , in his youth in the sixties , to attend pro Palestine protests with 3-4 persons. Yes. This is the total number of protesters.
On the other hand he recalls during the six day war how he witnessed people protesting in support of Israel and collecting donations for the war effort !
AgitatedHoneydew2645 on
Truth is, it’s happened before durkng the early 2000s.
During the second Intifafa, Israels approval rating sunk, only to recover after a few years (people forget, new generation, etc).
Confident_Access6498 on
They will need to pump alot of money in hollywood to regain some simpathy among western nations.
--Mikazuki-- on
TLDR: My perception definitely changed over time. Over 20 years. But maybe over 10 years before October 7th.
Well, I am just going to share my personal anecdote as a non-American millennial.
As a kid and young teen, I didn’t know anything about Israel. ME history wasn’t covered much in my school curriculum. WW2 on the other hand was covered, including the persecution of Jews, the holocaust, and from a very young age antisemitism was taught as something as particularly bad.
First time I came across ‚Israel‘ was when I was flipping through random books in a bookstore. On a whim, I picked up a book about various special forces in the world. While I don’t remember what unit the book covered, I came out knowing that Israel was a small, highly militarised country that at one point had to fend off against aggression from larger countries (I presume that it was about the Arab-Israeli war, but since I was just browsing, I didn’t remember that). Bit like Sparta then. At the time, I would say that hard power had an effect of a soft power.
Fast forward to the end of 2000, where that photo of Faris Odeh made the round online. I didn’t know much who the Palestinian were, but that photo reminded me a lot of the tank man photo from Tiananmen Square. When it was later reported that the boy was killed, I did think that was effed up. Throwing stones at armed soldiers isn’t smart, but doesn’t justify getting shot by live rounds. Still, at the time I thought it might’ve been a one off; ultimately I wasn’t paying too much attention to the Israel-Palestinian issue.
2006, Intel introduced the Core 2 processor, which allowed it to take decisively take back the performance crown from AMD’s Athlon series. I was a computer nerd at the time, so this was big news, and I read that the processor was developed by Intel’s team in Israel. I am not sure if that makes the team primarily Israeli, but didn’t think about it, and that improved my view of Israel as an technologically advanced state. Technology is a soft power to me.
2008 onward saw numerous Gaza and Israeli conflict, and that was when my view of Israel started to turn negative. I came to think that Faris Odeh’s fate was not a one off, nor an outlier. Gradually, I started to feel that the IDF was a trigger happy bunch that uses excessive forces. This was not something that happened overnight, it was series of events that gradually turned me from having a slightly positive view of Israel, to somewhat negative.
October 7th 2023 was obviously not the start. I am 100% against what the Hamas did on October 7th, but I am equally against the way the IDF retaliated since. I don’t buy the „most moral army in the world“ crap. I also don’t buy the „Any country would do the same“ BS. The UK didn’t decide to bomb the heck out of Belfast or Dublin the same way that Gaza and Beirut is being bombed.
I mentioned that antisemitism was viewed very negatively at school because I do agree with the view that Israel has been weaponizing that term against any criticism to it’s actions.. but at some point, and we might be past that, I feel that people will just think „whatever man“.
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Pretty much the title. Iv seen such an increase in anti Israel sentiment over the past year. I don’t recall this much resentment. Is it justified and how will this change things long term?
In what context? Israel has been consistently viewed very negatively for its entire existence from the perspective of Middle East and Muslim majority countries.
I’ve always thought both sides were at fault: „Israel shouldn’t have restricted Gaza and Gazans should quit being terrorists.“ But after 2.5 years of war, I can say my support for Palestine has died. The more I learn about the history, the more I support Israel. But hey, that’s just my personal view.
I think social media has made anti-Israel sentiment feel bigger.
Israel has always been looked at as a pariah state, while also being courted by both the West and East during the Cold War. Ever since the War of Independence in 1948, Arab sentiment has been very “drive the Jews into the sea”.
Now you have a horseshoe effect of far-right and far-left both hating Israel for their own reasons.
I think the images of cities in Gaza turned to complete rubble as far as the eye can see kind of changed public opinion.
Under Netanyahu, Israel is fast becoming a global pariah, accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity, nations are withdrawing trade agreeements as they can no londer stomach the relationship. Even nations such as Canada who were previously strong supporters are officially voicing their concerns in increasingly blunt terms.
I have always viewed isreal this way and was once called the black Cartman.
For the most part Israel has been viewed positively by Western countries. They were founded by refugees fleeing the Holocaust and fought several times to defend their nation.
For me it was the first intifada where young teenage Palestinians threw rocks at the Israeli army and were met with bullets that I realized there was a disparity and I took a more balanced view of the conflict.
There are no saints in the middle East.
In america, yes. Fundamentally the biggest driver is that the Israeli population has grown quite right wing with respect to foreign policy and nationalism. This makes it naturally lose left-leaning people in the United States.
It shifted dramatically.
Rashidi in his book, hundred years of war on Palestine , how he used , in his youth in the sixties , to attend pro Palestine protests with 3-4 persons. Yes. This is the total number of protesters.
On the other hand he recalls during the six day war how he witnessed people protesting in support of Israel and collecting donations for the war effort !
Truth is, it’s happened before durkng the early 2000s.
During the second Intifafa, Israels approval rating sunk, only to recover after a few years (people forget, new generation, etc).
They will need to pump alot of money in hollywood to regain some simpathy among western nations.
TLDR: My perception definitely changed over time. Over 20 years. But maybe over 10 years before October 7th.
Well, I am just going to share my personal anecdote as a non-American millennial.
As a kid and young teen, I didn’t know anything about Israel. ME history wasn’t covered much in my school curriculum. WW2 on the other hand was covered, including the persecution of Jews, the holocaust, and from a very young age antisemitism was taught as something as particularly bad.
First time I came across ‚Israel‘ was when I was flipping through random books in a bookstore. On a whim, I picked up a book about various special forces in the world. While I don’t remember what unit the book covered, I came out knowing that Israel was a small, highly militarised country that at one point had to fend off against aggression from larger countries (I presume that it was about the Arab-Israeli war, but since I was just browsing, I didn’t remember that). Bit like Sparta then. At the time, I would say that hard power had an effect of a soft power.
Fast forward to the end of 2000, where that photo of Faris Odeh made the round online. I didn’t know much who the Palestinian were, but that photo reminded me a lot of the tank man photo from Tiananmen Square. When it was later reported that the boy was killed, I did think that was effed up. Throwing stones at armed soldiers isn’t smart, but doesn’t justify getting shot by live rounds. Still, at the time I thought it might’ve been a one off; ultimately I wasn’t paying too much attention to the Israel-Palestinian issue.
2006, Intel introduced the Core 2 processor, which allowed it to take decisively take back the performance crown from AMD’s Athlon series. I was a computer nerd at the time, so this was big news, and I read that the processor was developed by Intel’s team in Israel. I am not sure if that makes the team primarily Israeli, but didn’t think about it, and that improved my view of Israel as an technologically advanced state. Technology is a soft power to me.
2008 onward saw numerous Gaza and Israeli conflict, and that was when my view of Israel started to turn negative. I came to think that Faris Odeh’s fate was not a one off, nor an outlier. Gradually, I started to feel that the IDF was a trigger happy bunch that uses excessive forces. This was not something that happened overnight, it was series of events that gradually turned me from having a slightly positive view of Israel, to somewhat negative.
October 7th 2023 was obviously not the start. I am 100% against what the Hamas did on October 7th, but I am equally against the way the IDF retaliated since. I don’t buy the „most moral army in the world“ crap. I also don’t buy the „Any country would do the same“ BS. The UK didn’t decide to bomb the heck out of Belfast or Dublin the same way that Gaza and Beirut is being bombed.
I mentioned that antisemitism was viewed very negatively at school because I do agree with the view that Israel has been weaponizing that term against any criticism to it’s actions.. but at some point, and we might be past that, I feel that people will just think „whatever man“.