Why in left run states they don’t have stand your ground law?
IRC_1014 on
WA is a “stand your ground” state, but it is accomplished by case law (state supreme court) rather than by statute. See State of Washington versus Reynaldo Redmond (2003).
unkyduck on
Such a USican concept.
Stupid and possibly deadly to both parties in practice
Fair-Big4229 on
Arizona is probably the most liberal standard ground state out of all 50. Standard ground extends to any place that you’re allowed to be in. It’s the wild West out here.
wtfinternetwhy on
I am just going to say the controversial truth here. If you can be shot dead by a cop for just having a gun on you, you don’t have a right to stand your ground. These laws are just political theatre to make idiots think they have more power than they do while the billionaires build bunkers.
0ttr on
Stand your ground laws „feel right“ to a lot of people. But in practice, they make it too easy to legally kill someone. Duty to retreat is a more ethical approach. Note that this does not interfere with the castle doctrine and duty to retreat is a pretty minimal thing to do–try to get away before using lethal force. Let the police handle it when possible. If you tried to retreat and your attacker still pursues OR you cannot retreat, the law is still on your side. „duty to retreat laws require a person to attempt to avoid a deadly confrontation by retreating to safety before using deadly force in self-defense, *if* they can do so safely.“
This is based on the idea that many people threaten, few carry it through. A decision to retreat does a lot to make it more clear what the intent actually is.
XCavAo on
Virginia is a „stand your ground“ state by case law.
w3woody on
California is a de-facto „stand your ground“ state thanks to case law, in People v Heckler (1895), and is reflected in jury instruction given in that state. (Meaning there is no strict ‚duty to retreat‘ in California.) Where it differs from other ’stand your ground‘ states is (a) force must be proportional and reasonable, (b) you may not be the initial aggressor in the conflict, and (c) you have no statutory immunity–meaning you wind up going through trial in court to prove you were acting in reasonable defense of yourself.
red_ball_express on
Illinois is stand your ground.
Yota4x4RE on
It’s terrible that the whole map isn’t red
Ok-Rhubarb2549 on
A typically “stand your ground” law includes ;
„Stand your ground“ laws allow individuals to use reasonable force, including deadly force, to defend themselves against imminent threats without any duty to retreat first. These laws apply in any place someone is legally allowed to be, extending beyond the home, and often provide immunity from prosecution. Synonyms include „no duty to retreat“ laws or sometimes „line in the sand“ laws”.
Whornz4 on
Those states in red on average have higher murder rates than states without stand your ground laws.
punarob on
Nice handy guide of states to never set foot in!
Buc_ees on
VA is a stand your ground state. You might need to fix your map.
zero-foxtrot-golf-4 on
„Colorado is a „stand your ground“ state by judicial precedent instead of statute“…
Diplomatic-Immunityi on
California is a stand your ground state by case law per the California Supreme Court.
CauseBitter7347 on
are you trying to point out stand your ground, or relating this to castle doctrine? because they can be and are in most cases different. Just wondering.
Sparky_321 on
I’m a left-leaning Minnesotan and even I think stand-your-ground should be universal.
STFUnicorn_ on
Surprised that NM and NE aren’t
Particular_Bet_5466 on
I’ve lived in both wi and co and pretty sure they both are. My buddy in HS (Bo Morrison) got smoked for running from an underage drinking party in Wisconsin and hiding in a dudes sunroom. The guy got off for standing his ground.
In fact a Google search asking is wi/co stand your ground state both says yes.
What always confuses me about this is does stand your ground include the right to defend your property with deadly force?
Few-Actuator9705 on
Feel bad for rhose gray states
Eusocial_sloth3 on
*only if you’re white
SnooBooks1701 on
It’s the ones you expected, and Nebraska
phrogBOI369 on
Huh, it seems like the ones with the most gun violence are the ones that tell you not to fight back.
Technical_Potato7646 on
In the Peoples Democratic Republic of Maryland, criminals have more rights than you.
hicker223 on
I pray Oregon has something similar if not more in favor of the person standing their ground. People need to learn to back tf up an not escalate.
Atechiman on
A lot of the grey states have no duty retreat so have no need to have stand your ground laws.
Guilty-Shoulder-9214 on
NM has a state constitutional right to self defense but requires you to match force with force unless you’re in a home or car where castle doctrine can factor in.
kindle139 on
A duty to retreat seems pretty crazy to me.
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Why in left run states they don’t have stand your ground law?
WA is a “stand your ground” state, but it is accomplished by case law (state supreme court) rather than by statute. See State of Washington versus Reynaldo Redmond (2003).
Such a USican concept.
Stupid and possibly deadly to both parties in practice
Arizona is probably the most liberal standard ground state out of all 50. Standard ground extends to any place that you’re allowed to be in. It’s the wild West out here.
I am just going to say the controversial truth here. If you can be shot dead by a cop for just having a gun on you, you don’t have a right to stand your ground. These laws are just political theatre to make idiots think they have more power than they do while the billionaires build bunkers.
Stand your ground laws „feel right“ to a lot of people. But in practice, they make it too easy to legally kill someone. Duty to retreat is a more ethical approach. Note that this does not interfere with the castle doctrine and duty to retreat is a pretty minimal thing to do–try to get away before using lethal force. Let the police handle it when possible. If you tried to retreat and your attacker still pursues OR you cannot retreat, the law is still on your side. „duty to retreat laws require a person to attempt to avoid a deadly confrontation by retreating to safety before using deadly force in self-defense, *if* they can do so safely.“
This is based on the idea that many people threaten, few carry it through. A decision to retreat does a lot to make it more clear what the intent actually is.
Virginia is a „stand your ground“ state by case law.
California is a de-facto „stand your ground“ state thanks to case law, in People v Heckler (1895), and is reflected in jury instruction given in that state. (Meaning there is no strict ‚duty to retreat‘ in California.) Where it differs from other ’stand your ground‘ states is (a) force must be proportional and reasonable, (b) you may not be the initial aggressor in the conflict, and (c) you have no statutory immunity–meaning you wind up going through trial in court to prove you were acting in reasonable defense of yourself.
Illinois is stand your ground.
It’s terrible that the whole map isn’t red
A typically “stand your ground” law includes ;
„Stand your ground“ laws allow individuals to use reasonable force, including deadly force, to defend themselves against imminent threats without any duty to retreat first. These laws apply in any place someone is legally allowed to be, extending beyond the home, and often provide immunity from prosecution. Synonyms include „no duty to retreat“ laws or sometimes „line in the sand“ laws”.
Those states in red on average have higher murder rates than states without stand your ground laws.
Nice handy guide of states to never set foot in!
VA is a stand your ground state. You might need to fix your map.
„Colorado is a „stand your ground“ state by judicial precedent instead of statute“…
California is a stand your ground state by case law per the California Supreme Court.
are you trying to point out stand your ground, or relating this to castle doctrine? because they can be and are in most cases different. Just wondering.
I’m a left-leaning Minnesotan and even I think stand-your-ground should be universal.
Surprised that NM and NE aren’t
I’ve lived in both wi and co and pretty sure they both are. My buddy in HS (Bo Morrison) got smoked for running from an underage drinking party in Wisconsin and hiding in a dudes sunroom. The guy got off for standing his ground.
In fact a Google search asking is wi/co stand your ground state both says yes.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/no-charges-filed-against-homeowner-accused-of-shooting-bo-morrison.amp
So disappointed in NM.
Shame on Massachusetts
What always confuses me about this is does stand your ground include the right to defend your property with deadly force?
Feel bad for rhose gray states
*only if you’re white
It’s the ones you expected, and Nebraska
Huh, it seems like the ones with the most gun violence are the ones that tell you not to fight back.
In the Peoples Democratic Republic of Maryland, criminals have more rights than you.
I pray Oregon has something similar if not more in favor of the person standing their ground. People need to learn to back tf up an not escalate.
A lot of the grey states have no duty retreat so have no need to have stand your ground laws.
NM has a state constitutional right to self defense but requires you to match force with force unless you’re in a home or car where castle doctrine can factor in.
A duty to retreat seems pretty crazy to me.