We’re about to witness a massive uptick of “identity fraud” as teens everywhere discover they can create their instagram accounts by stealing their parents ID for account creation.
forgiuse on
Parents will have to do actual parenting if their children got banned from using social media.
Jonn_1 on
How about a smartphone ban?
pkennedy on
Seems ok, ban brought down usage 40% on the low side and up to 80% on the high side for some studies. A solid start. Like with all bans, it just takes time for the majority to accept it and abide by it.
I look at smoking, it took many years before the older childen to leave the schools and take with them their habits, making it less appealing for the younger ones as the numbers dwindled.
Parents now have a better stick to work with, it’s the law… it’s not just my rule you can’t use it. For some, they need extra help and this does it. Society plays a good part in raising children. Society provide schools, health care, and protection for children and parents do their part, a solid majority but thinking society isn’t involved or responsible at all is ridiculous.
CaRzOonn on
Banning it won’t fix the underlying issue, people will just move to the next thing.
BrandonianBranflakes on
Where will I get my fart content fill??
Happy_Feet333 on
Just ban the apps from being downloaded from the app stores for any Google/Apple account that is for someone who is a child.
Kids, nowadays, are too stupid to know how to access these sites without an app.
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I mean, just look at the number of comments on topics like YouTube, when Google raises the price of the ad-free subscription version. 90% of the comments are gripes, obviously. But there will only be a handful of commenters saying how the subscription is completely unnecessary, because you can watch YouTube on Firefox, ad-free, if you have an adblocker extension.
And that works on mobile devices.
Even those that respond say such a thing is just „too difficult“ and that „the app is easier“ to justify the continued use of it.
So the proof is already out there. People won’t switch to browser-based social media, because „It R teh HARD!!!“
superbabe69 on
Big throw from Murphy missed
localstyle808 on
Weak parents will end up destroying society and the world.
Killboypowerhed on
My kids don’t have social media because I told them they’re not allowed it. It’s not impossible
go_go_tindero on
Just because a ban isn’t perfect, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be implemented.
mqrdesign on
Kids nowadays are tech savvy and are aware of work arounds for accessing these things despite the ban.
Donut497 on
Who’s desperate for mass surveillance? Because that’s what a “youth ban” is. We will all be subject to personal identification on the internet.
Wheels9690 on
Nothing pisses me off more than lazy, shitty parents. „Why doesn’t the government do more to protect our kids online!“ Because its not their fucking job.
So many parents(not all) are fucking worthless and should never have had kids if they are too fucking lazy to monitor what they do online and who they talk with. Now we have to deal with shit like Discord and fucking Xbox needing ID verification for the sake of „protecting children“
SpartanKane on
I think that with social media, you really cant put that genie back in the bottle. Its been around so long and is so ingrained in the lives of the youth, that kids will find a way to skirt the restrictions.
No, parents should just be better. If this was around 10 years ago, it wouldve probably landed.
Ver_Ama on
“But then I’ll have to spend actual time with my child.”
clinicalia on
I don’t understand why this is so hard to do? Like why do parents struggle with this crap? Even when I was a kid, my parents did nothing to stop me from using the internet all the time. They only cared when we were still on crappy AOL dial-up and when they needed to use the phone. I saw and got into so much awful junk online because they just never cared. Starting to make me think most people just aren’t mature enough to have kids.
MaestroLogical on
We fine/arrest parents that give alcohol or cigarettes to kids and this is seen as a perfectly acceptable way of preventing addiction issues.
If social media poses the same addiction risks…
CapriSonnet on
Bring back dial up.
bwoah07_gp2 on
And I say it’s an incredibly stupid idea for world governments to impose social media bans on teens.
Infini-Bus on
Stop giving those kids smartphones! From what I can tell, parents nor the kids are subject to any enforcement. It’s all on the industry – and we know how industry likes to follow laws.
ashtonpar on
Those parents were hacking their way through the internet – I’m almost 38 and I remember getting into my schools entire registry and into a back way of using MSN messenger, and I wasn’t even a computer dork just knew how to go down folders and clicked around. When a kid wants something, they’ll find a way. Just morons my age got to teach their kids what to look out for, or don’t. We all gotta make mistakes and learn from them as we grow up from youth to adulthood
Wondering_Electron on
It is fucking easy as a parent.
Our daughter was just given her first phone and use Pinwheel.
Crisis88 on
I think the phrase is „difficult“, not impossible
thegamenerd on
How about actually parenting your children?
Don’t want them on social media? Block it on their phone. Set up parental controls. It’s not hard but it requires you to actually try.
It’s like when my brother kept complaining about his girlfriend’s son using his credit card on buying shit, I basically had to twist his arm to get him to admit to setting up parental controls on his Xbox. I had to set it up for him because he wouldn’t do it himself and sure enough, his girlfriend’s son stopped buying shit.
RAdu2005FTW on
Parental controls have been a thing for decades. How are these parents so technically illiterate?
ShakeMyHeadSadly on
The social media company said it would investigate, but would not inform Ms Williams of the outcome, „to protect the privacy of the account holder“.
Oh, sure. NOW they are concerned with account holder privacy.
NUMBerONEisFIRST on
They are just using children as an excuse to better track what people say online.
If they cared about children, why would they continue to cut food stamps, welfare, and other social safety net programs while also bombing schools in Iran, and not investigating the children abused or murdered at Epstein island.
I’m so tired of their lies.
tinylittlebabyjesus on
My issue with these laws aimed at age verification for social media is that they just seem like convenient ways for politicians and government to package bills that are covertly aimed at reducing the anonymity of the internet.
That said.. If it weren’t for the potential impact it could have in other areas, it doesn’t sound like a bad idea.
ESCF1F2F3F4F3F2F1ESC on
I don’t know if this is the case in Australia but certainly in the UK I think the reason so many parents want a social media ban is we were never taught proper media literacy at school. ‚Media Studies‘ as a subject was (and I think still is) scoffed at as a waste of time, and it was usually scoffed at by the sort of people who now believe any old shit that they read on Facebook or see in a TikTok video.
What kids desperately need is to be taught that you need to consider what the goal is of the media publisher, whether it be a news corporation or an individual YouTuber or whoever, to be pushing a particular point of view down your throat. And then taught how media is created for one purpose, to keep you consuming it, and how that’s either done through traditional ways like sensational language and flashy graphics, or more advanced ones like social media algorithms. And *then* taught how important it is to seek out media made by people who don’t share your point of view, or the one that you’re beginning to adopt based on the media you’ve already seen, to see what other points of view exist and so you can start to shape your own.
But because most of us weren’t taught this, we don’t know enough about it to be able to teach it, and we see learning that and teaching it as a massive investment in time which our adult lives don’t feel like they allow us.
It should be in every single curriculum across the globe, and you should be taught it right up until you leave school. It’s just as important as the traditional subjects, if not more so.
But as usual, an „enforcement stance“ as the quote in the article puts it, is what we seem to default to, instead of an educational one. Ban and punish, not educate and protect.
Droidsexual on
They need to regulate the actual companies instead. I feel like the reason they haven’t is because politicians are too cowardly to stand up to bilionaires.
Zorothegallade on
„We can’t take the phone away from the kids“ say the parents who put the phone in their hands to begin with.
daze23 on
sure, some kids will figure out ways around it. but it’s like saying you shouldn’t lock your car door cause someone could break the window
Miserable-Quarter283 on
Not impossible, censorship needs to be an opt in at the ISP level. Your mobile provider would give you an option to limit internet activity to a standard whitelist that would include things like google, wikipedia, messages, gps etc. It wouldntake some tuning, but over time, it would be a good enough list to make internet access a simple checkbox for children.
If children need access to other sites, they can use their home internet, which is where parenting happens.
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We’re about to witness a massive uptick of “identity fraud” as teens everywhere discover they can create their instagram accounts by stealing their parents ID for account creation.
Parents will have to do actual parenting if their children got banned from using social media.
How about a smartphone ban?
Seems ok, ban brought down usage 40% on the low side and up to 80% on the high side for some studies. A solid start. Like with all bans, it just takes time for the majority to accept it and abide by it.
I look at smoking, it took many years before the older childen to leave the schools and take with them their habits, making it less appealing for the younger ones as the numbers dwindled.
Parents now have a better stick to work with, it’s the law… it’s not just my rule you can’t use it. For some, they need extra help and this does it. Society plays a good part in raising children. Society provide schools, health care, and protection for children and parents do their part, a solid majority but thinking society isn’t involved or responsible at all is ridiculous.
Banning it won’t fix the underlying issue, people will just move to the next thing.
Where will I get my fart content fill??
Just ban the apps from being downloaded from the app stores for any Google/Apple account that is for someone who is a child.
Kids, nowadays, are too stupid to know how to access these sites without an app.
—
I mean, just look at the number of comments on topics like YouTube, when Google raises the price of the ad-free subscription version. 90% of the comments are gripes, obviously. But there will only be a handful of commenters saying how the subscription is completely unnecessary, because you can watch YouTube on Firefox, ad-free, if you have an adblocker extension.
And that works on mobile devices.
Even those that respond say such a thing is just „too difficult“ and that „the app is easier“ to justify the continued use of it.
So the proof is already out there. People won’t switch to browser-based social media, because „It R teh HARD!!!“
Big throw from Murphy missed
Weak parents will end up destroying society and the world.
My kids don’t have social media because I told them they’re not allowed it. It’s not impossible
Just because a ban isn’t perfect, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be implemented.
Kids nowadays are tech savvy and are aware of work arounds for accessing these things despite the ban.
Who’s desperate for mass surveillance? Because that’s what a “youth ban” is. We will all be subject to personal identification on the internet.
Nothing pisses me off more than lazy, shitty parents. „Why doesn’t the government do more to protect our kids online!“ Because its not their fucking job.
So many parents(not all) are fucking worthless and should never have had kids if they are too fucking lazy to monitor what they do online and who they talk with. Now we have to deal with shit like Discord and fucking Xbox needing ID verification for the sake of „protecting children“
I think that with social media, you really cant put that genie back in the bottle. Its been around so long and is so ingrained in the lives of the youth, that kids will find a way to skirt the restrictions.
No, parents should just be better. If this was around 10 years ago, it wouldve probably landed.
“But then I’ll have to spend actual time with my child.”
I don’t understand why this is so hard to do? Like why do parents struggle with this crap? Even when I was a kid, my parents did nothing to stop me from using the internet all the time. They only cared when we were still on crappy AOL dial-up and when they needed to use the phone. I saw and got into so much awful junk online because they just never cared. Starting to make me think most people just aren’t mature enough to have kids.
We fine/arrest parents that give alcohol or cigarettes to kids and this is seen as a perfectly acceptable way of preventing addiction issues.
If social media poses the same addiction risks…
Bring back dial up.
And I say it’s an incredibly stupid idea for world governments to impose social media bans on teens.
Stop giving those kids smartphones! From what I can tell, parents nor the kids are subject to any enforcement. It’s all on the industry – and we know how industry likes to follow laws.
Those parents were hacking their way through the internet – I’m almost 38 and I remember getting into my schools entire registry and into a back way of using MSN messenger, and I wasn’t even a computer dork just knew how to go down folders and clicked around. When a kid wants something, they’ll find a way. Just morons my age got to teach their kids what to look out for, or don’t. We all gotta make mistakes and learn from them as we grow up from youth to adulthood
It is fucking easy as a parent.
Our daughter was just given her first phone and use Pinwheel.
I think the phrase is „difficult“, not impossible
How about actually parenting your children?
Don’t want them on social media? Block it on their phone. Set up parental controls. It’s not hard but it requires you to actually try.
It’s like when my brother kept complaining about his girlfriend’s son using his credit card on buying shit, I basically had to twist his arm to get him to admit to setting up parental controls on his Xbox. I had to set it up for him because he wouldn’t do it himself and sure enough, his girlfriend’s son stopped buying shit.
Parental controls have been a thing for decades. How are these parents so technically illiterate?
The social media company said it would investigate, but would not inform Ms Williams of the outcome, „to protect the privacy of the account holder“.
Oh, sure. NOW they are concerned with account holder privacy.
They are just using children as an excuse to better track what people say online.
If they cared about children, why would they continue to cut food stamps, welfare, and other social safety net programs while also bombing schools in Iran, and not investigating the children abused or murdered at Epstein island.
I’m so tired of their lies.
My issue with these laws aimed at age verification for social media is that they just seem like convenient ways for politicians and government to package bills that are covertly aimed at reducing the anonymity of the internet.
That said.. If it weren’t for the potential impact it could have in other areas, it doesn’t sound like a bad idea.
I don’t know if this is the case in Australia but certainly in the UK I think the reason so many parents want a social media ban is we were never taught proper media literacy at school. ‚Media Studies‘ as a subject was (and I think still is) scoffed at as a waste of time, and it was usually scoffed at by the sort of people who now believe any old shit that they read on Facebook or see in a TikTok video.
What kids desperately need is to be taught that you need to consider what the goal is of the media publisher, whether it be a news corporation or an individual YouTuber or whoever, to be pushing a particular point of view down your throat. And then taught how media is created for one purpose, to keep you consuming it, and how that’s either done through traditional ways like sensational language and flashy graphics, or more advanced ones like social media algorithms. And *then* taught how important it is to seek out media made by people who don’t share your point of view, or the one that you’re beginning to adopt based on the media you’ve already seen, to see what other points of view exist and so you can start to shape your own.
But because most of us weren’t taught this, we don’t know enough about it to be able to teach it, and we see learning that and teaching it as a massive investment in time which our adult lives don’t feel like they allow us.
It should be in every single curriculum across the globe, and you should be taught it right up until you leave school. It’s just as important as the traditional subjects, if not more so.
But as usual, an „enforcement stance“ as the quote in the article puts it, is what we seem to default to, instead of an educational one. Ban and punish, not educate and protect.
They need to regulate the actual companies instead. I feel like the reason they haven’t is because politicians are too cowardly to stand up to bilionaires.
„We can’t take the phone away from the kids“ say the parents who put the phone in their hands to begin with.
sure, some kids will figure out ways around it. but it’s like saying you shouldn’t lock your car door cause someone could break the window
Not impossible, censorship needs to be an opt in at the ISP level. Your mobile provider would give you an option to limit internet activity to a standard whitelist that would include things like google, wikipedia, messages, gps etc. It wouldntake some tuning, but over time, it would be a good enough list to make internet access a simple checkbox for children.
If children need access to other sites, they can use their home internet, which is where parenting happens.