They already have laws to enforce. Trumpublicans are allowing him to grift.
Whatscheiser on
So we’re still pretending that our other branches of government aren’t complicit? Yes.. I see. If only Trump would let all of the people currently capable of holding him accountable hold him accountable. The fact Trump can exist in his current capacity is a symptom of the overall problem. Not the problem itself.
RCG73 on
You mean like the emoluments clause. That already Fucking exists that no one will enforce on this orange bastard? Like that kind of law?
projexion_reflexion on
If that was possible, Biden would’ve. Tramp getting elected twice and serving full terms exposes deep constitutional flaws.
Adorable_Branch6502 on
I don’t understand this. Don’t the existing conflict of interest laws already ban conflicts of interests but also “the appearance” of any conflict of interest? Why would the federal government be used as a way to personally enrich someone?
VR_Raccoonteur on
Post Trump laws won’t do jack shit without post Trump constitutional amendments and major changes to how our government functions. As long as the DOJ is under his direct control, he can literally do anything and nobody can prosecute him, or anyone he doesn’t want prosecuted.
Congress needs a means to do more than simply impeach him because a removal via impeachment is too difficult to get in a two party system where one party will never convict their president.
Prize_Proof5332 on
Laws mean nothing if they can be safely ignored.
NonesuchAndSuch77 on
Best we can do is ‚a time of healing‘ and no substantial changes whatsoever. /s
BuddhistGamer95 on
Pretty sure we already have those in place. Try to keep up.
astrozombie2012 on
We already had them… literally every guardrail failed and everyone who was supposed to stop it has allowed it to happen.
eskimospy212 on
New laws will not help as the main issue is current laws are ignored or not enforced.
The real answer is, first and foremost, to expand SCOTUS, maybe by ten seats to start. If SCOTUS isn’t checked they will simply declare all these new laws unconstitutional.
Through citizens united and the immunity ruling they have brought this disaster on us. Sure Trump is the one abusing his powers but SCOTUS gave him the ability to do so.
Fickle-Molasses-903 on
MSM, Independents, and Moderates: ‚We’re going to hold Democrats to a strict code of ethics that is unprecedented.‘
Democrats: ‚Why?‘
‚Because Republicans keep on abusing it and they don’t give af. So we’re going to finally take it seriously. Starting with your party.‘
ToubDeBoub on
Pre Trump laws had to do that too. They didn’t. As long as the kingmakers keep gaining money and influence, nothing will change.
wezworldwide on
You can make all the laws you want, Republican won’t follow them.
catbaloney on
… AND get our money back from these crooks!
trisul-108 on
What is the purpose of any law when the administration has no respect for the law. The Constitution has been dismantled and all the king’s horses and all the king’s men cannot put it together again. A new Constitution will need to be enacted which makes this impossible.
Maybe the DoJ needs to be run by Congress, not the Executive branch.
Mnemosense on
There’s already a law in DC for inciting a riot that leads to death and destruction of property. Penalty is 10 years. Trump wasn’t even questioned let alone arrested.
aerost0rm on
I mean first the next president and Congress will have to abuse the power to remove every individual complicit in the abuse under Donald Trump. Then reform will need to happen.
californicating on
We already have laws for that, we’re choosing not to enforce them.
TheHomersapien on
Laws that the executive branch can ignore because Republicans and Democrats agree that the president has absolute immunity from the law?
Fucking genius.
Careful_Trifle on
What the actual fuck.
It was enforceable against the theoretical possibility that someone would bribe Jimmy Carter through his peanut farm, but somehow we need new laws to stop people like Trump from self dealing, crypto scamming, setting up pots of taxpayer money he has direct control over, etc.?
No. Just stop being weak losers and stand up to the lying, cheating, bully. Hold him accountable to the same laws every other president has been able to manage to abide by.
YoungestDonkey on
Congress could legally classify any decision or action that enriches the president (and/or associates) as „not an official executive action“ to restore legal liability for corrupt actions, bypassing the disastrous SCOTUS ruling.
Soft_Equipment_2787 on
Whoever runs this country next will need to abuse the laws to go after Trump and his cronies before they fix them.
Parking_Syrup_9139 on
I see Trump as America’s Yeltsin. America already collapsed but hypernormalization keeps everything moving until one day Trump will die and a real fascist dictator will arise.
Outrageous_Space8083 on
Why wait?
FrostyMatters on
lol do people not get it yet? Guys like Trump won’t follow any „post Trump laws“ that are passed. What needs to happen is the opposite of creating laws: breaking norms. Break the norm that presidents are not prosecuted. Arrest his ass, prosecute him for war crimes and sedition, fomenting an armed insurrection, bribery, extortion, abuse of office, gross negligence, dereliction of duty, and give him several life sentences. Declare him a traitor to the United States. Seize his assets. Nationalize his companies. Sink his plane in the ocean. Arrest his family. Seize THEIR assets too. Turn his presidential library into a cautionary tale. Get the fuck outta here with „new laws“, lets see someone try that shit again after watching the government do that.
NergNogShneeg on
We had those already. We just didn’t enforce them. Maybe we should try actually holding folks accountable next time…if there is a next time.
zombiepete on
Laws are one thing, but if they aren’t enforced they’re meaningless.
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Or.. they could just enforce the existing laws.
They already have laws to enforce. Trumpublicans are allowing him to grift.
So we’re still pretending that our other branches of government aren’t complicit? Yes.. I see. If only Trump would let all of the people currently capable of holding him accountable hold him accountable. The fact Trump can exist in his current capacity is a symptom of the overall problem. Not the problem itself.
You mean like the emoluments clause. That already Fucking exists that no one will enforce on this orange bastard? Like that kind of law?
If that was possible, Biden would’ve. Tramp getting elected twice and serving full terms exposes deep constitutional flaws.
I don’t understand this. Don’t the existing conflict of interest laws already ban conflicts of interests but also “the appearance” of any conflict of interest? Why would the federal government be used as a way to personally enrich someone?
Post Trump laws won’t do jack shit without post Trump constitutional amendments and major changes to how our government functions. As long as the DOJ is under his direct control, he can literally do anything and nobody can prosecute him, or anyone he doesn’t want prosecuted.
Congress needs a means to do more than simply impeach him because a removal via impeachment is too difficult to get in a two party system where one party will never convict their president.
Laws mean nothing if they can be safely ignored.
Best we can do is ‚a time of healing‘ and no substantial changes whatsoever. /s
Pretty sure we already have those in place. Try to keep up.
We already had them… literally every guardrail failed and everyone who was supposed to stop it has allowed it to happen.
New laws will not help as the main issue is current laws are ignored or not enforced.
The real answer is, first and foremost, to expand SCOTUS, maybe by ten seats to start. If SCOTUS isn’t checked they will simply declare all these new laws unconstitutional.
Through citizens united and the immunity ruling they have brought this disaster on us. Sure Trump is the one abusing his powers but SCOTUS gave him the ability to do so.
MSM, Independents, and Moderates: ‚We’re going to hold Democrats to a strict code of ethics that is unprecedented.‘
Democrats: ‚Why?‘
‚Because Republicans keep on abusing it and they don’t give af. So we’re going to finally take it seriously. Starting with your party.‘
Pre Trump laws had to do that too. They didn’t. As long as the kingmakers keep gaining money and influence, nothing will change.
You can make all the laws you want, Republican won’t follow them.
… AND get our money back from these crooks!
What is the purpose of any law when the administration has no respect for the law. The Constitution has been dismantled and all the king’s horses and all the king’s men cannot put it together again. A new Constitution will need to be enacted which makes this impossible.
Maybe the DoJ needs to be run by Congress, not the Executive branch.
There’s already a law in DC for inciting a riot that leads to death and destruction of property. Penalty is 10 years. Trump wasn’t even questioned let alone arrested.
I mean first the next president and Congress will have to abuse the power to remove every individual complicit in the abuse under Donald Trump. Then reform will need to happen.
We already have laws for that, we’re choosing not to enforce them.
Laws that the executive branch can ignore because Republicans and Democrats agree that the president has absolute immunity from the law?
Fucking genius.
What the actual fuck.
It was enforceable against the theoretical possibility that someone would bribe Jimmy Carter through his peanut farm, but somehow we need new laws to stop people like Trump from self dealing, crypto scamming, setting up pots of taxpayer money he has direct control over, etc.?
No. Just stop being weak losers and stand up to the lying, cheating, bully. Hold him accountable to the same laws every other president has been able to manage to abide by.
Congress could legally classify any decision or action that enriches the president (and/or associates) as „not an official executive action“ to restore legal liability for corrupt actions, bypassing the disastrous SCOTUS ruling.
Whoever runs this country next will need to abuse the laws to go after Trump and his cronies before they fix them.
I see Trump as America’s Yeltsin. America already collapsed but hypernormalization keeps everything moving until one day Trump will die and a real fascist dictator will arise.
Why wait?
lol do people not get it yet? Guys like Trump won’t follow any „post Trump laws“ that are passed. What needs to happen is the opposite of creating laws: breaking norms. Break the norm that presidents are not prosecuted. Arrest his ass, prosecute him for war crimes and sedition, fomenting an armed insurrection, bribery, extortion, abuse of office, gross negligence, dereliction of duty, and give him several life sentences. Declare him a traitor to the United States. Seize his assets. Nationalize his companies. Sink his plane in the ocean. Arrest his family. Seize THEIR assets too. Turn his presidential library into a cautionary tale. Get the fuck outta here with „new laws“, lets see someone try that shit again after watching the government do that.
We had those already. We just didn’t enforce them. Maybe we should try actually holding folks accountable next time…if there is a next time.
Laws are one thing, but if they aren’t enforced they’re meaningless.