Oh this cant be bad right? It’ll destroy all your work and with no backup.
anarchy8 on
Google seems intent on destroying the web
simask234 on
What’s even the fucking point?
unspecified_person11 on
Can this nightmare please just end.
ottwebdev on
Our website builder has been setup to do this and personalize to the logged in user.
I think for google though it would be simpler to just not include poor sites in their results
ArchinaTGL on
So basically tl;dr if you want to view the site as it was actually designed.. Just stop using Google. This AI-generated system can only operate if you click a site through Google search.
There already exists many other search engines that perform perfectly well. Personally I’d recommend DuckDuckGo as a start for people who want to shift away from Google though there also exists Ecosia for the more privacy concerned and you could even create your own SearX instance if you wanted full control.
ejrob on
This might be the most honest use of LLMs yet. They’re simply there to con a visitor into spending their time or money on your service/product. The pretense of truth or accuracy is completely gone now.
GeneralOrder24 on
“The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants” — Pope Leo, earlier today.
mugwhyrt on
The irony of Google patenting this at the same time that they are scolding websites for back-button-hijacking
HedgehogCheap46 on
Remember when part of google ideology was Don’t be evil
esther_lamonte on
We need to as a society engage in the serious thought experiment of what this manic obsessive drive towards constant optimization of every single corner of business leads to, and how unsustainable it is to expect the same level of impact for the effort as time goes on. We’ve totally lost the point of it all, and are just chasing arbitrary metrics that don’t really relate to the human experience.
Tower21 on
I can foresee some legal trouble if they implement this.
Libel for example.
skccsk on
It’s browsers all the way down
CircumspectCapybara on
Holy clickbait, did an AI copywrite this opinion piece?
> it’s a patent, meaning Google has legally protected the ability to do this.
That’s not what a patent does. 🤦 A patent just means the patent-holder has exclusive rights for a limited time to make or use or sell their invention. It doesn’t mean they have the unrestricted right to use their invention in any and every possible way in any scenario irrespective of other considerations.
The patent-holder on a new gun design would be entitled to exclusive rights over the use of the design, over the sale and manufacture of the weapon, but that doesn’t mean they can use the weapon unconditionally without restriction, e.g., to attack people.
And there are definitely laws against computer fraud and impersonating websites. So Google wouldn’t use this feature to impersonate a third-party service provider to the user, each rewrite reddit.com and try to pass off their AI interpretation of Reddit as Reddit to an end user. They might offer an AI generated preview or summary with a clear disclaimer this is Google’s summary or synthesis of Reddit’s content, and not coming directly from Reddit. That’s just an example of how this applies.
Also this is a bit of hyperbole. In reality, people don’t visit websites (which are often surfaced to users through a search engine) to look a pretty landing page. They go to interact with the service provider and consume their service, which requires authenticating with the website and browsing their web property and consuming their services through it.
CurvedTVGreen8788 on
**Duck Duck Go** is as good, without the Google level spying.
No-Suggestion-9459 on
Glad I avoid most things Google. I use android but removed as many Google apps from it as I could.
Odd_Secret9132 on
Gives me Googlezon EPIC vibes. I anyone remembers that.
Ahayzo on
This seems like one of those crazy parents that gets filed then ultimately never used.
But if it does, they’re definitely going to try and paint it as being good for the little guy to justify their attempt to take over the internet. Oh your site isn’t well designed because you’re not a big company, so it doesn’t rank high in Google results? Don’t worry, your good friend Google, who obviously has no bad intent, has your back, we’ll spruce up the site a bit for free with AI and get you new visitors!!
thatirishguyyyyy on
So Google wants their AI to tell you how a website should be interpreted and seen.
Yeah, once again a product nobody asked for.
amejin on
„Don’t be evil.“
typesett on
FYI, industry people have predicted headless websites since 2015
Make a website and the content is in a database but the thing is – you and others can choose to reformat and layout as you want
I think of it as users can choose a design they like from the browser and it basically puts it in a design the same way each time. There is more to it that the design can do as features like show you the real design the company or person made for context
The bad is I guess AI can make it for you and that causes dead internet
Power_Stone on
Not only do we have the World Wide Web, the deep web, and the dark web, we will now also have intended web and AI Web, glorious
No-Land-7633 on
It is illegal to have third parties redirect or falsify domains.
bluenoser613 on
This is illegal
mvw2 on
Doesn’t matter to me. I’ve already stopped using Google because of how bad is gotten.
My dad stopped using Google because he hates the experience, and he’s relative computer illiterate.
So here’s two ends of the consumer spectrum abandoning what was once the best, completely dominating search engine in existence. Google has destroyed itself, and a lot of users are moving on.
dervu on
Translated reddits entries in google search were just foretaste. It is so annoying though.
T-J_H on
How is this even patentable. Ridiculous. It’s just a digital version of a game of telephone.
jeminar on
Personally I can’t wait for the day that I don’t send an email, but the main info. I send it to the boss, technician and finance guy, and each gets what they need from my info pack in a format they like to consume it in.
No more headlines for the boss (which they forward to the technician who moans at me for not putting enough detail into) and diatribes for the technician who forwards it to the boss who complains that they haven’t the time to read it.
FoxMeadow7 on
Can someone tldr or something?
Bearded_Pip on
It is way past time to break google up into a dozen different companies. Not by what they do either. Do it regionally like Ma Bell. Like the LLWS, 6
US companies, and 6 global ones.
I want 12 different youtubes and 12 different Google Docs. Etc. And each company has to contribute to a youtube archive fund. So that old videos are available for research purposes.
MrLewArcher on
This is a great example of the patent system failing society. Sure, this can exist, and it may even help mom and pop shops but one company should not be able to claim ownership. Especially given it will likely be built with at least one open source project.
pioniere on
Yeah, fuck Google. “Don’t be evil.”
Spiritual_Trick_6655 on
Ah, Forbes. The end of that article reads:
„The question isn’t how to stop this from happening, it’s how to make sure your parts are the ones AI wants to work with.“
Be a good little brand and pull down your pants for big daddy Google.
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Oh this cant be bad right? It’ll destroy all your work and with no backup.
Google seems intent on destroying the web
What’s even the fucking point?
Can this nightmare please just end.
Our website builder has been setup to do this and personalize to the logged in user.
I think for google though it would be simpler to just not include poor sites in their results
So basically tl;dr if you want to view the site as it was actually designed.. Just stop using Google. This AI-generated system can only operate if you click a site through Google search.
There already exists many other search engines that perform perfectly well. Personally I’d recommend DuckDuckGo as a start for people who want to shift away from Google though there also exists Ecosia for the more privacy concerned and you could even create your own SearX instance if you wanted full control.
This might be the most honest use of LLMs yet. They’re simply there to con a visitor into spending their time or money on your service/product. The pretense of truth or accuracy is completely gone now.
“The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants” — Pope Leo, earlier today.
The irony of Google patenting this at the same time that they are scolding websites for back-button-hijacking
Remember when part of google ideology was Don’t be evil
We need to as a society engage in the serious thought experiment of what this manic obsessive drive towards constant optimization of every single corner of business leads to, and how unsustainable it is to expect the same level of impact for the effort as time goes on. We’ve totally lost the point of it all, and are just chasing arbitrary metrics that don’t really relate to the human experience.
I can foresee some legal trouble if they implement this.
Libel for example.
It’s browsers all the way down
Holy clickbait, did an AI copywrite this opinion piece?
> it’s a patent, meaning Google has legally protected the ability to do this.
That’s not what a patent does. 🤦 A patent just means the patent-holder has exclusive rights for a limited time to make or use or sell their invention. It doesn’t mean they have the unrestricted right to use their invention in any and every possible way in any scenario irrespective of other considerations.
The patent-holder on a new gun design would be entitled to exclusive rights over the use of the design, over the sale and manufacture of the weapon, but that doesn’t mean they can use the weapon unconditionally without restriction, e.g., to attack people.
And there are definitely laws against computer fraud and impersonating websites. So Google wouldn’t use this feature to impersonate a third-party service provider to the user, each rewrite reddit.com and try to pass off their AI interpretation of Reddit as Reddit to an end user. They might offer an AI generated preview or summary with a clear disclaimer this is Google’s summary or synthesis of Reddit’s content, and not coming directly from Reddit. That’s just an example of how this applies.
Also this is a bit of hyperbole. In reality, people don’t visit websites (which are often surfaced to users through a search engine) to look a pretty landing page. They go to interact with the service provider and consume their service, which requires authenticating with the website and browsing their web property and consuming their services through it.
**Duck Duck Go** is as good, without the Google level spying.
Glad I avoid most things Google. I use android but removed as many Google apps from it as I could.
Gives me Googlezon EPIC vibes. I anyone remembers that.
This seems like one of those crazy parents that gets filed then ultimately never used.
But if it does, they’re definitely going to try and paint it as being good for the little guy to justify their attempt to take over the internet. Oh your site isn’t well designed because you’re not a big company, so it doesn’t rank high in Google results? Don’t worry, your good friend Google, who obviously has no bad intent, has your back, we’ll spruce up the site a bit for free with AI and get you new visitors!!
So Google wants their AI to tell you how a website should be interpreted and seen.
Yeah, once again a product nobody asked for.
„Don’t be evil.“
FYI, industry people have predicted headless websites since 2015
Make a website and the content is in a database but the thing is – you and others can choose to reformat and layout as you want
I think of it as users can choose a design they like from the browser and it basically puts it in a design the same way each time. There is more to it that the design can do as features like show you the real design the company or person made for context
The bad is I guess AI can make it for you and that causes dead internet
Not only do we have the World Wide Web, the deep web, and the dark web, we will now also have intended web and AI Web, glorious
It is illegal to have third parties redirect or falsify domains.
This is illegal
Doesn’t matter to me. I’ve already stopped using Google because of how bad is gotten.
My dad stopped using Google because he hates the experience, and he’s relative computer illiterate.
So here’s two ends of the consumer spectrum abandoning what was once the best, completely dominating search engine in existence. Google has destroyed itself, and a lot of users are moving on.
Translated reddits entries in google search were just foretaste. It is so annoying though.
How is this even patentable. Ridiculous. It’s just a digital version of a game of telephone.
Personally I can’t wait for the day that I don’t send an email, but the main info. I send it to the boss, technician and finance guy, and each gets what they need from my info pack in a format they like to consume it in.
No more headlines for the boss (which they forward to the technician who moans at me for not putting enough detail into) and diatribes for the technician who forwards it to the boss who complains that they haven’t the time to read it.
Can someone tldr or something?
It is way past time to break google up into a dozen different companies. Not by what they do either. Do it regionally like Ma Bell. Like the LLWS, 6
US companies, and 6 global ones.
I want 12 different youtubes and 12 different Google Docs. Etc. And each company has to contribute to a youtube archive fund. So that old videos are available for research purposes.
This is a great example of the patent system failing society. Sure, this can exist, and it may even help mom and pop shops but one company should not be able to claim ownership. Especially given it will likely be built with at least one open source project.
Yeah, fuck Google. “Don’t be evil.”
Ah, Forbes. The end of that article reads:
„The question isn’t how to stop this from happening, it’s how to make sure your parts are the ones AI wants to work with.“
Be a good little brand and pull down your pants for big daddy Google.