Surprised Pikachu face. Even before the cookie banners, there was the „do not track“ setting you could set once and forget, which was also ignored.
I don’t know what will work to remedy the situation, but asking big tech to play nice isn’t it.
Gamerfrom61 on
Really – would never have guessed…
Try rejecting all cookies and going back on the site and you will often find them not asking you again for weeks (if ever)!
Best one for me is the ‚legitimate interest‘ option for advertisers that is automatically selected as ‚allow‘ despite using cookies set to no next to this. Explain what interest an advertiser has in me that is legitimate OTHER that giving my adverts please.
Nimbus-GT on
I figured as much.
KURDISHMINOR on
i can never say no to cookies >.<
Haunterblademoi on
It’s not a surprise, really.
pummisher on
I’ve been accepting all cookies since this is all pointless.
Another_Slut_Dragon on
The correct fix for companies treating fines as the ‚cost of doing business‘ is to add a 1.25x multiplier to every subsequent fine in the legal system and ensure fines are reapplied and multiplied weekly until the problem is corrected.
Now that 1.25x doesn’t sound much, does it? 52 weeks of that is a 70,000x fine multiplier and it just keeps climbing from there. Eventually the offending company will fold.
w1n5t0nM1k3y on
This whole cookie thing is nonsense. We should be educating users to set up their browsers properly or just have browsers preconfigured for much safer setup.
I have my browser set up to disable all third party cookies. They aren’t needed. On top of that I have it set up to delete all cookies when I close my browser. The only ones that stay are a small white list of sites that I actually want to stay logged into all the time. It’s about 5 sites.
Either just disable third party cookies or use Firefox which has cookies silos, or „Total Cookie Protection“, which means that third party cookies aren’t shared between different sites, so if you visit Reddit and it reads/writes a third party cookie to Facebook, that cookie is exclusive to Reddit and can’t be read/write from some Twitter, or some other website, each domain has it’s own set of third party cookies.
Dr-Moth on
If the bodies responsible for fining companies for non-compliance were privatised and able to profit from these fines we might see a lot more action. At the moment, it’s frustrating to spend the effort of applying the law properly and seeing other companies flagrantly ignore it but not be prosecuted.
The title makes me chuckle. In most cases, the reject cookies button should do nothing. No cookies should be loaded until the user clicks accept cookies. The only time it needs to do something is if a user who previously accepted changes their mind.
Ikeelu on
Then stop asking me anything
Monachikos02 on
Ya fuckin‘ think?
Dicethrower on
No shit. Anyone who has dealt with GDPR, for example, knows it’s basically an honor system. Only the biggest companies get audited and they see multi billion dollar fines as cost of doing business.
Acceptable-Yam2542 on
reject cookies is just the close door button on an elevator.
Slow_Watercress_4115 on
Oh my god… Is water wet also?
EmperorOfAllCats on
Of course it’s a lie. I always click „accept cookies“, but nobody ever brought them to me.
theotherThanatos on
This is why I set my browser to delete all cookies on close. Except I never close my browser so I don’t lose my tabs
Western_Coconut8171 on
yeah this is why i just use browser extensions now. cookie banners are basically useless at this point, most sites just ignore your choice anyway
brentspar on
I clear my cache, cookies and history approximately every two weeks, so I don’t worry about accepting them.
xx123gamerxx on
they say this like „reject cookies“ is even a thing anymore, its „allow all“ or „allow necessary only“
heavy-minium on
I know for a fact from a big data analysis in the AdTech space in 2023 that only a very tiny fraction of publishers (those that publish the ads of advertisers) actually respect your choice. That insight had to be buried into Nirvana as it could have causes harm to business I was related to. I can not and will not divulge any more details than that, but trust me, the numbers in that article are still too optimistic. You should simply expect that your choice is not respected at all by default, except maybe by the largest corporations that mitigate potential legal repercussions a bit more than smaller companies.
physedka on
There’s a bit of a quiet legal war going on right now. It’s a cottage industry of people running scans of websites that violate any kind of laws related to privacy and cookies and then firing off lawsuits. For small companies, it’s a terrible problem because they can’t afford to fight these legal battles and their sites are often third-party managed so they can’t so easily fix the problems without spending a lot of unnecessary money. And most of them don’t even do anything with the data they accidentally harvest. But larger companies like Meta, Google, etc. have giant legal teams that laugh off these lawsuits so they don’t care. The data they harvest is worth more than the legal costs too because that’s the core of their business model.
SuspiciousRobotThief on
Anything not enforced can be ignored. Why would companies actual care if they can make money off something that no one is going to hold them responsible for?
charface1 on
I’m a session cookie guy anyways.
NCGamerBro on
Say it ain’t so
InsomniaticWanderer on
My favorite is when you register a new account and click on the box that says „don’t send me promotional material“ and then immediately get like 5 emails all exclaiming new sales and limited time offers.
That’s awesome.
OGBeege on
Shocked. Shocked!
Iranoutofhotsauce on
Woooooowwww
schacks on
Not a surprise but I still do it!
Niceguy955 on
Also turning on the „Do not track“ option in your browser’s setting is ignored by everyone. The server gets it as part of the HTTP header, but big advertisers like Google, Yahoo, and Facebook just decided your choice doesn’t matter. The funny thing is that they read your choice, and log it together with the rest of your info as they keep tracking you.
ThrowAbout01 on
The law can’t keep up with technology. Even decades old tech by this point as some governments focus on even older things that already had been resolved.
gwentlarry on
My Firefox browser is set to delete all cookies on quit with specified exceptions.
What surprises me is how many cookies some websites set. One website I visited briefly an hour ago has set 43 cookies !!!
Dauvis on
All cookies are essential thus none are rejected.
brainrotbro on
If you really want to avoid most website bs, set your vpn to an EU country.
No-Philosopher3248 on
Start jailing CEOs along with even larger fines.
TwoLegitShiznit on
If I’m ever on a browser where I can’t block this, I just immediately back out when I see this. Unless it’s a work computer, then I just accept anything, who cares.
jsfkmrocks on
That’s wild. My wife is a web dev and I know her company is constantly going through legal reviews of their cookie policies in practice for their customers they build for. Crazy bigger companies…just don’t?
Bonobos_In_Space on
Do they keep a record of my rejection tied to my IP? Can I sue them for breach of agreement?
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This is my shocked face. 😐
Surprised Pikachu face. Even before the cookie banners, there was the „do not track“ setting you could set once and forget, which was also ignored.
I don’t know what will work to remedy the situation, but asking big tech to play nice isn’t it.
Really – would never have guessed…
Try rejecting all cookies and going back on the site and you will often find them not asking you again for weeks (if ever)!
Best one for me is the ‚legitimate interest‘ option for advertisers that is automatically selected as ‚allow‘ despite using cookies set to no next to this. Explain what interest an advertiser has in me that is legitimate OTHER that giving my adverts please.
I figured as much.
i can never say no to cookies >.<
It’s not a surprise, really.
I’ve been accepting all cookies since this is all pointless.
The correct fix for companies treating fines as the ‚cost of doing business‘ is to add a 1.25x multiplier to every subsequent fine in the legal system and ensure fines are reapplied and multiplied weekly until the problem is corrected.
Now that 1.25x doesn’t sound much, does it? 52 weeks of that is a 70,000x fine multiplier and it just keeps climbing from there. Eventually the offending company will fold.
This whole cookie thing is nonsense. We should be educating users to set up their browsers properly or just have browsers preconfigured for much safer setup.
I have my browser set up to disable all third party cookies. They aren’t needed. On top of that I have it set up to delete all cookies when I close my browser. The only ones that stay are a small white list of sites that I actually want to stay logged into all the time. It’s about 5 sites.
Either just disable third party cookies or use Firefox which has cookies silos, or „Total Cookie Protection“, which means that third party cookies aren’t shared between different sites, so if you visit Reddit and it reads/writes a third party cookie to Facebook, that cookie is exclusive to Reddit and can’t be read/write from some Twitter, or some other website, each domain has it’s own set of third party cookies.
If the bodies responsible for fining companies for non-compliance were privatised and able to profit from these fines we might see a lot more action. At the moment, it’s frustrating to spend the effort of applying the law properly and seeing other companies flagrantly ignore it but not be prosecuted.
The title makes me chuckle. In most cases, the reject cookies button should do nothing. No cookies should be loaded until the user clicks accept cookies. The only time it needs to do something is if a user who previously accepted changes their mind.
Then stop asking me anything
Ya fuckin‘ think?
No shit. Anyone who has dealt with GDPR, for example, knows it’s basically an honor system. Only the biggest companies get audited and they see multi billion dollar fines as cost of doing business.
reject cookies is just the close door button on an elevator.
Oh my god… Is water wet also?
Of course it’s a lie. I always click „accept cookies“, but nobody ever brought them to me.
This is why I set my browser to delete all cookies on close. Except I never close my browser so I don’t lose my tabs
yeah this is why i just use browser extensions now. cookie banners are basically useless at this point, most sites just ignore your choice anyway
I clear my cache, cookies and history approximately every two weeks, so I don’t worry about accepting them.
they say this like „reject cookies“ is even a thing anymore, its „allow all“ or „allow necessary only“
I know for a fact from a big data analysis in the AdTech space in 2023 that only a very tiny fraction of publishers (those that publish the ads of advertisers) actually respect your choice. That insight had to be buried into Nirvana as it could have causes harm to business I was related to. I can not and will not divulge any more details than that, but trust me, the numbers in that article are still too optimistic. You should simply expect that your choice is not respected at all by default, except maybe by the largest corporations that mitigate potential legal repercussions a bit more than smaller companies.
There’s a bit of a quiet legal war going on right now. It’s a cottage industry of people running scans of websites that violate any kind of laws related to privacy and cookies and then firing off lawsuits. For small companies, it’s a terrible problem because they can’t afford to fight these legal battles and their sites are often third-party managed so they can’t so easily fix the problems without spending a lot of unnecessary money. And most of them don’t even do anything with the data they accidentally harvest. But larger companies like Meta, Google, etc. have giant legal teams that laugh off these lawsuits so they don’t care. The data they harvest is worth more than the legal costs too because that’s the core of their business model.
Anything not enforced can be ignored. Why would companies actual care if they can make money off something that no one is going to hold them responsible for?
I’m a session cookie guy anyways.
Say it ain’t so
My favorite is when you register a new account and click on the box that says „don’t send me promotional material“ and then immediately get like 5 emails all exclaiming new sales and limited time offers.
That’s awesome.
Shocked. Shocked!
Woooooowwww
Not a surprise but I still do it!
Also turning on the „Do not track“ option in your browser’s setting is ignored by everyone. The server gets it as part of the HTTP header, but big advertisers like Google, Yahoo, and Facebook just decided your choice doesn’t matter. The funny thing is that they read your choice, and log it together with the rest of your info as they keep tracking you.
The law can’t keep up with technology. Even decades old tech by this point as some governments focus on even older things that already had been resolved.
My Firefox browser is set to delete all cookies on quit with specified exceptions.
What surprises me is how many cookies some websites set. One website I visited briefly an hour ago has set 43 cookies !!!
All cookies are essential thus none are rejected.
If you really want to avoid most website bs, set your vpn to an EU country.
Start jailing CEOs along with even larger fines.
If I’m ever on a browser where I can’t block this, I just immediately back out when I see this. Unless it’s a work computer, then I just accept anything, who cares.
That’s wild. My wife is a web dev and I know her company is constantly going through legal reviews of their cookie policies in practice for their customers they build for. Crazy bigger companies…just don’t?
Do they keep a record of my rejection tied to my IP? Can I sue them for breach of agreement?