Die EU führt eine Online-App zur Altersüberprüfung ein, die zum globalen Plan werden könnte
https://gizmodo.com/eu-is-rolling-out-an-online-age-verification-app-that-could-become-the-global-blueprint-2000746948
Die EU führt eine Online-App zur Altersüberprüfung ein, die zum globalen Plan werden könnte
https://gizmodo.com/eu-is-rolling-out-an-online-age-verification-app-that-could-become-the-global-blueprint-2000746948
27 Kommentare
I will stop using every single service that requires age-verification. Even if that means that I gotta pay my bills by physically mailing in a check.
Gross as fuck.
Get the fuck out of here with that Chinese social credit shit.
Zero knowledge proofs are such a cool bit of mathematics. This is the least bad way to do age verification.
I’m not opposed to it in principal. We don’t let kids buy tobacco or alcohol or pornography or vote or see R rated movies IRL. I don’t see why certain harms online shouldn’t be treated differently.
What the f*** EU? Why
If you can create an identification system that is super secure about my privacy, creates no profile, AND can act as proof that I’m human, I’m fucking down. I just trust nothing.
If you can go out and pay your fucking internet bill, you are old enough for damn fucking internet. For the fucking gods‘ sake.
I have been paying the bill to the same company for thirteen years now, since I moved where I live. There’s your damn verification.
Australia is probably the blueprint very recently
Good
Social media is a Cancer and honestly we should be regulating it far more for everyone and not just kids
So… Maybe another 5-10 years and we all get a SIN? Guess Mike Pondsmith really is a prophet.
I don’t think these people realise just how much more dangerous this could potentially be.
At the moment the number of reported cases of children being targeted is quite small compared to the number of internet users.
But any system that can return a “yes, this person is 18+” to a website, can also be used to assume <18. As it’s already possible to present different content based on cookie acceptance, device type, location, etc, it would also be possible to show specific content to under 18s, or even redirect them to other pages or sites. That could make it more difficult for adults to know what youngsters are viewing as they might never see the alternative content, and by extension make targeting children easier.
Any system can be abused by people determined to use it for wrongdoing. Some sites already take advantage of the poor implementation and lack of clarity with the cookie laws.
What‘s really needed is better education for both children, and their guardians, on how to stay safe online.
One of the biggest problems at the moment is people just accepting what they are fed, either by the “you might be interested in XYZ because you viewed ABC“, or by chat/AI bots/information sites.
Additionally, a lot of US, UK, and EU companies still rely on Israeli cybersecurity software, which should be considered a risk. And the UK are using Palantir systems, which should most definitely be removed for a number of serious security reasons.
Technocrat billionaires running the world. That’s what this is. Control freaks embedding themselves into our private life.
Although, I like the idea of kids staying out of the internet, these assholes are implementing all the control tools they have so when fascists completely take over the world, nobody will be able to escape from their tyranny.
This isn’t about protecting kids, this is about making you lose your right to privacy and inviting the big brother into your house.
And just like clockwork, astroturfed articles start popping up one after another. Boiling the frog.
Okay everyone sell their phone we’re going back to AOL
Yeah, that’s a no from me until I’ve been able to thoroughly look over whatever tech they’re using. If I’m actually convinced it’s completely bullet proof in terms of privacy than maybe… but I have my doubts that it will be.
People really should read the article:
“The EU officials claim that the app, which would work on any device, will be “completely anonymized” to ensure privacy and will follow the same principles as the EU’s COVID-19 digital certification app, which ended up becoming the blueprint of similar digital certifications in other countries and was eventually adopted by the World Health Organization.
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EU tech chief Henna Virkkunen said that the privacy measures will be built on a cryptographic method called zero-knowledge proofs, and that the app would be open-source, adding that private companies and partner countries would be free to use it as a blueprint.”
How do you age-verify bots?
not sure why everyone’s moaning about this in the comments. that app will be „a cryptographic method called [zero-knowledge proofs](https://www.wired.com/story/zero-knowledge-proofs/)“, so it will be secure and private kinda like using Touch ID or Face ID. the recipient site just gets a yes/no response – it doesn’t dish out information to anyone.
“We will have zero tolerance for companies that do not respect our children’s rights, and this is why we are moving ahead with full speed and determination on the enforcement of our European rules.”
I will have zero tolerance for governments that do not respect their adult’s rights.
What about my rights to privacy and anonymity?
Oh, right. We don’t have any.
ITT: Americans who didn’t read the article.
The verification is server side using zero knowledge proof encryption. This is the most private way to perform age verification and all code is open source. So much of people’s lives are online these days (including kids‘), it is insane to not have such a system. Or do you suggest it was a mistake to ban kids irl from buying alcohol, porn, and driving?
Fastforward 1 year and they will pass a law to change the code of that app to have a backdoor to link the activity. Because protect children or catch terrorists even more
Fastforward 5 more years and they will prohibit internet access without digital ID. If you are against it. Think about children, you monster.
It’s a slippery slope and it’s only going to get worse.
The Great Chinese Firewall wasn’t built in a day. Neither did Putin roll out all the mass cencorship in one day. EU is heading in the same direction.
Let me guess: The app on Android will then (despite claims of open source) require a Google Play certified device, which hard-couples one’s digital sovereignty to US-based companies since custom ROMs won’t work
If the govt builds an api on top of my govt ID that just securely lets any service (that requires age verification for legitimate reasons) I don’t mind it. What I do mind is every service asking for a picture of my govt ID or biometrics. Most if not all countries have ID that are readable by mobile nfc nowadays.
Darknet will explode expansively 🙂
I can’t tell if this topic is completely manipulated by tech companies (especially Meta AND Reddit) because it completely goes against their interests. The privacy concerns are legitimate but we’re not talking about the whole web, just social media (and honestly foreign social media should be banned from the EU, just like China banned non-domestic platforms). Something feels off about the zeal in the reactions…
I don’t understand how does it protect from „Don’t know, someone stole my device/access“
Like this is absolutely nuts.
People say google wallet, but you can copy fingerprint and face to go through it. You can also steal and verify card without biometrics and attach to google wallet. Digital ID will absolutely be like that.
And scammers and spies will just buy them on probiv
just the step-up for enforcing identity verification / anti-anonymity on the intarwebs. no sir!
People should learn how to read. Companies get no info other than that the person is above 16. The don’t even need to know name or any other info. The government verifies that you are 16, then sends the answer to the company. It seems like the best way to fix the problem for now. No bots, kids go back to school, where they learn how to better read articles on the internet. I see no downsides.