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    Die USA nähern sich der Volksabstimmung, die den Gewinner der Präsidentschaftswahlen entscheidet

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    4. 3seconddelay on

      Don’t shoot the messenger…even if enough states sign the Compact to reach 270 electors, the current Supreme Court will rule against it.

    5. OptimisticRealist__ on

      If only americans wouldnt buy this entire „greatest country on earth“ and american exceptionalism bs. Then this hubris infested shithole of a country could actually show some humility and realise that hey, maybe the way the entire rest of the world is doing things might actually be a pretty common sense idea.

      But no, americans have to do their own thing thats why you have this bizarre and outdated electoral college ; highly undemocratic gerrymandering and every thing is measured in every unit imaginable except for the one the rest of the world uses.

    6. Bristol__Key on

      slowly but surely the us is filing paperwork to move out of electoral college land and into basic democaracy…

    7. AmazingDadJokes on

      This would be amazing for democracy. IOW, Republicans are going to hate it

    8. kjlsdjfskjldelfjls on

      Would be an interesting feeling to participate in a national election where my vote isn’t thrown in the trash (for being cast in the wrong state).

    9. LazerWolfe53 on

      This benefits every state that isn’t a swing state. Do people who don’t live in a swing state not realize this? Presidents and campaigns only ever pander to and visit like 6 states. I live in a swing state and every presidential candidate of my lifetime has visited and campained within 20 minutes of my home. That’s what flyover country is talking about. If you’re not a swing state you can get stuffed. There’s no point in pa during to your state.

    10. suddenstutter on

      This would be the biggest win for democracy in decades. Ill believe it when i see it.

    11. Upbeat_Shame9349 on

      Not one red state has signed this thing in the like 20 years since it started. There’s ~~only a couple of~~ maybe 5 purple states. It’s mostly hard blue states and there’s not enough of those to reach 270.

    12. GreenTrees797 on

      The futility of people trying to repaint a jalopy that doesn’t even wheels anymore. 

    13. Coldsmoke888 on

      Oh instead of letting a bunch of tiny contributors decide the outcome of an election? Nah, that makes too much sense.

      “and the deciding factor… Ohio!” Like what? No offense to Ohio but come on.

    14. No_Tone1704 on

      If the states agree to it consensually how is it illegal. 

      But one step closer?? The journey is long. 

    15. Junior-Gorg on

      It’d be nice if we could get us in the electoral college and behave as a proper democracy however, there would be several challenges to this agreement

      The Compact Clause (Article I, Section 10) requires congressional consent for interstate compacts that affect federal power. The courts would be called onto force these states to get congressional approval. Depending on what Congress looks like they may or may not get it. But I assume this is subject to the veto of the current president.

      Also, what to do with faithless electors? Say a republican wins the state of Pennsylvania, but a democrat wants the national election. Under the current system, what you’ve actually voted for as a slave of electors. Electors that will be fiercely loyal to the Republican Party. What binds them to vote for the national winner. Courts of ruled that you combined electors to the state results, but nothing says you can combine them to the national results. So that would wind up in front of the courts as well.

      We cross these bridges when we come to them, but I would be cautiously optimistic get best about this.

    16. Evening-Topic8857 on

      Considering the 2024 election showed that Latino voters are now open to voting republican nowadays, this will hardly matter 

    17. All_Hail_Hynotoad on

      Republicans will never allow it. They would never win another election.

    20. dcoats69 on

      I used to be more excited about this idea. Then i realized that it’s only solidly blue states signing up. I don’t think any swing state or red state will sign up, so this will realistically only matter if the states that are solidly blue hit 270 electors. In which case, it’d always be guaranteed to always have a democrat president without this.

      So without any republican states supporting this, it’s just false hope

    21. Kooky-Security-4267 on

      This is thrown around every couple of years, a republican would never be elected president using this method and so this will never happen.

    22. Critically32 on

      Doubt it. This will never happen. Conservatives can’t rid themselves of DEI for country people.

    24. ProfNesbitt on

      My one question about this relies on the idea that states run their own elections and have absolute oversight over their own elections. So what is in place to prevent a state like Florida reporting more votes than is possible for their prefer candidate just so it tips the popular vote in their favor? Is there any oversight preventing a state from essentially vote stuffing their numbers to get the popular vote nationwide?

    27. mike194827 on

      It makes sense to have the House and Senate, one guaranteeing equal representation no matter the size of the state (Senate) and one reflecting the population size more accurately (House), of course gerrymandering hasn’t helped at all with the House actually reflecting the US population. Still, good concept for the Legislative Branch but the President is representative of ALL people and should be decided by the majority vote, not some manufacturered electoral system that is broken.

    28. gm92845 on

      This country needs a constitutional convention and makes some of these proposals into amendments that can’t be challenged by the supreme court.

    29. MrKantor103 on

      Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have a voting app on our phones!!! The government would never allow it but imagine a 4th branch. House, senate, the president and the people. Can you imagine a government by the people and for the people? What an amazing concept!!!

    31. weaselking on

      The great thing about this, is that this will make people feel like their vote mattered and will lead to greater voter turnout. Right now people are kind of defeated, „my vote doesn’t matter because this is a RED/BLUE state and that will never change…“

    34. DarkLordKohan on

      Electoral college is so stupid and outdated. Why does getting 51% of the state vote grant you all delegates. So fuckin dumb.

    36. Individual_Respect90 on

      I feel like this just encourages more people to vote. Even if you’re in a place that you know everyone is voting against you at least your vote isn’t being eaten. I think this gets the sentiment of the people. I get why we used the electoral college but we are not modern and it feels so outdated

    37. Manguneer on

      Now that I can vote as a recently naturalized US citizen, I want ranked choice so absolutely everyone’s vote counts an we might finally move away from this 2 party bull shit.

    39. flushandforget on

      Fuck Trump and 2016. Go to ChatGPT and run a query where Trump is not elected (and Hillary wins) and how it impacts global economics, American Society, and International order and see how nice things would be right now. Ugh I hate this timeline.

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