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    Virginia beteiligt sich an einer landesweiten Initiative, um sicherzustellen, dass nur die Gewinner der Volksabstimmung Präsident werden

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    1. PhoenixTineldyer on

      I hope you all are ready to see the Supreme Court twist themselves into all kinds of pretzels to block this, because they will

    2. Imaginaryreality5304 on

      “A national effort to circumvent the Electoral College has gained another state.

      Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger signed a bill Monday that adds the state to the National Popular Vote Compact, an agreement among states to award their presidential electoral votes to the nationwide popular vote winner.

      With Virginia, the total number of states signed on to the interstate compact is now 18, plus the District of Columbia, for a total of 222 electoral votes.

      The compact doesn’t go into effect, though, until there are enough states signed up to reach the required 270 electoral votes to elect a president.
      “

    4. Bristol__Key on

      the fact this even needs a national effort is the joke, that should already be the default setup

    5. GreenManalishi24 on

      Interestingly, the states that join this are saying they are willing to ignore the wishes of their voters for the „good“ of the nation. The only way joining this affects a state’s official vote is if that state’s people voted for the loser of the popular vote. In that case, the state switches their vote.

      Edit: This also means the states in this trust the voter counts (not just results) of all the other states. For example, currently, if Texas officially votes red by 51/49 or 99/01, it makes no difference: Its electoral votes go red. With this compact in place, Texas officially going red by 99/01 can swing the popular vote to red. Do all the blue states in the compact trust the vote **counts** of Texas, Florida, etc?

    6. MerlynTrump on

      I think it’s kind of stupid. A candidate can win a state by a large margin and the state would give it’s EV to the other person because that candidate won the national popular vote by a pp or two.

      I prefer proportional allocation of electoral votes. You carry a state with 60%, you get 60% of it’s electoral votes.

    7. Mountain_Reveal7849 on

      That fact this isn’t the case blows my mind. The president should be selected by the most amount of votes, point blank period.

    8. Eggheadpancake on

      One person, one vote

      Fuck the electoral college and its anti democratic and pro racist history.

    10. padizzledonk on

      Only 48 more electoral votes and its a wrap for this dumb fucking system

    14. MarcusQuintus on

      The problem is that the electoral college has only fucked Democrats so no Republican will support this.

    16. ShortBrownAndUgly on

      Finally, a way to tell repubs to take their gerrymandering and shove it up their collective asses.

    17. flatpetey on

      There was a ton more that could have been done and the states just sit there and do nothing.

      1. Require 10 years of medical and tax return history to be listed on your state’s ballot. You want privacy – go do something else.

      2. Actually enforce the emoluments clause. But since the Constitution is just toilet paper at this point the entire thing is illegitimate anyway.

      3. And so on…

    18. aommi27 on

      I would love to see a vote every two years assessing Congress’s performance. If the population hates them, the have two more years to go positive in public opinion or they are all ineligible for reelection.

    19. androbot on

      I would oppose this if the past two generations did not prove – beyond the shadow of a doubt – that well-intentioned electoral checks on popular rule just grease the skids for corruption.

      Right now I’m being bombarded by ads and texts talking about how (my state) Virginia’s vote for redistricting is harmful to minorities, opposed by Obama, corrupt gerrymandering, etc. etc.

      None of these ads say a single word about how the initiative was triggered by, and will only go into force, if Texas follows through on its promise to gerrymander minorities out of power.

      I literally cannot express the level of disgust and loathing I have for the corruption that poisoned my country and made DJT its king.

    20. Competitive-Bike-277 on

      Ohio will never do it because corruption & gerrymandering are how they stay in power. 

      It would only take s few more states to force this. Michigan? Pennsylvania? 

    21. StarTropicsKing on

      I’m all for equal representation of states, but after Trump’s fake elector plot in 2020 to attempt to undermine the process and steal the election to remain in power, it’s a dangerous precedent that can’t be overlooked anymore. Popular vote seems to be the way to go. 

    23. NotThatAngel on

      All it takes is something like this for the Republicans to abandon their „widespread voter fraud favoring Democrats“ claim to acknowledge the system is actually skewed in their favor, allowing them to lose the election, then have their candidate take office.

      „…8 in 10 Democrats favor replacing the Electoral College with a popular vote system, only 46% of Republicans back it.

      Part of this split could be at least partially driven by the fact that the last two presidents elected without the popular vote were Republicans: George W. Bush in 2000 and Trump in 2016.“

    24. SydneyFall on

      I understand the idea, but I don’t even what to think about what a national recount would look at, after seeing what a shitshow bush vs gore was, or trump trying to win Georgia ooked like.

      I greatly like our political system across a few levels, but national recount in the US would be disastrous.

    25. Vaeon on

      That’s a weird way of saying „We want to abolish the Electoral College“ but, whatever, I guess.

    27. diveraj on

      This should be easy. There is no reason a Republican in California should get screwed anymore than a Democrat in Texas.

    28. Muunsaca on

      Love this. It’s always seemed counter intuitive to me that the most voted for candidate doesn’t end up as president. Even if it’s a candidate I disagree with and despise, like current POTUS, but if they win the popular vote they SHOULD be the president.

    29. GladiatorJones on

      And ranked voice voting. Voting needs to stop being undercut by the electoral college and by a broken two party system.

    30. plisars on

      Now it’s time to make ti so that you can’t win the presidency without receiving a majority of the vote. Too many recent winners under 50%, when run offs would almost certainly have changed some of the outcomes.

    31. emb4rassingStuffacct on

      Isn’t part of the point of the electoral college that states not prioritize the demands of residents of other states over the demands of their own residents?

    32. PolicyWonka on

      This really wouldn’t even be needed if we just expand the House.

      EC functions as a rough estimation of the popular vote due to how electors are assigned. The issue is the House is capped, resulting in disproportionate representation amongst states.

      That should be unconstitutional and the House should be made to expand by at least 1,000 seats.

      To get even closer to the popular vote, you just need more states to assign electors based on the district outcome + 2 for the state popular vote winner.

    33. Automatic_Bus_7634 on

      Not a single red state has signed on to this. None probably ever will. It’s a nice sentiment but to pretend like this is making any kind of real progress is a fantasy

    34. secretlyhumanami on

      The Electoral College made sense when we didn’t have the internet – or fast transportation – to quickly spread information. People in each state would basically elect some guys to go and cast the vote for them.

      These days it’s just ridiculous.

    35. GreenManalishi24 on

      If this reaches critical mass, every state needs to make extreme efforts to educate their voters that every vote counts, now. A lot of voters who currently sit home, knowing that their state is going to vote the way they themselves would want to, need to understand that their vote is now important. Even if their own state didn’t sign on to this compact.

    36. IzzybearThebestdog on

      This is nice and all. But they still need 48 electoral votes for this to be put in place, and the closer it gets to that number, the harder it will be to get states to actually agree.

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