If anything the PM should be paid more, rather than paying high level council officers or civil servants less.
thebigbioss on
Well we must have 300 amazingly run councils. Apparently the highest paid is at Staffordshire Council.
AlchemyAled on
Loads of people get paid more than the PM for less responsibility, what’s the point?
DM_me_goth_tiddies on
>Some 4,733 council employees across Britain and Northern Ireland are now being paid more than £100,000 across the UK, the TPA’s annual report said.
God that is a staggering amount to be in 1% of earners. Will need to see if I can find more info about their job titles.
ideally1030 on
There should be a revolt against billionaire business owners that prey on the poor. And Nigel Farage, he is overpaid.
frontendben on
This is basically rage bait.
“More than the PM” sounds outrageous, but it strips out all context to get clicks. The reality is far more boring. These salaries aren’t set in isolation, they’re pulled up by the private sector.
If you want people capable of running complex services and managing huge budgets, you have to compete with what those same people can earn elsewhere. That’s all this is. Market rates showing up in the public sector.
Frame it properly and it’s not shocking at all. It’s just how hiring works.
Pogeos on
I find it a joke that PM and ministers earn less than say… contracting Programme Manager / Programme Director in a good government or private sector IT project. The PM & ministers should be compensated adequately for what they are doing.
NoTitleChamp on
LBC Type headline.
„LBC called woke at suggestion PM should be payed more.“
chief_bustice on
Wake up babe, new crabs in a bucket headline just dropped!
Bob_Leves on
„Workers“ is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. The headline is politically motivated to imply front line staff, none of whom see anything like that. It’s some council leaders and directors, of whom I’d bet quite a few are contractors filling the position temporarily until there is permanent recruitment, and consultants always cost more than permanent staff.
WinHour4300 on
Though not a personal supporter, I do think we should give Starmer a massive raise for having to deal with Trump. How much would an extra £100K be between us all?
ClintBIgwood on
Not a problem if a lot of the councils weren’t bankrupt with the ones that aren’t raising tax left right and centre whilst providing awful service.
andrew0256 on
So what? The PM’s salary is artificially low and isn’t really the best comparator.
Being a Chief Executive of a council is a 24/7 job all of which is spent in the public eye. You are the beck and call of vexatious local politicians to say nothing of the crazies in the electorate who find out where you live.
Come an election the incoming leadership decide you are too closely aligned with the previous one and you are gone. If not then then when they „lose confidence“ in you to not pursue their illegal or irresponsible agenda, you’re also gone.
Not many people can do the job, or want it, hence the oft mentioned revolving door.
Wondering_Electron on
The PM is paid like shit for the job he does and the responsibilities he has.
KlausHeisler1 on
Unpopular opinion
We should be paying MP’s vastly more than we are currently and the PM should obviously be paid much more than any council worker.
DeliciousLiving8563 on
For context the majority of these „council workers“ are directors and chief executives on bodies with a revenue of over £1 billion and a five figure number of employees
If you cut these „workers“ pay in half you would save £20m or so nationwide. This would allow you to improve the roads in a single shire county. Except it wouldn’t.
Because older persons care is all consuming it would last a year before the cost of care and increasingly old population who we are keeping alive through more illness (which isnt cheap) than before swallows it up. For the single council that had nice roads for a year.
Paying chief execs a lot less than market rate rather than going all in and giving them middle management pay is a drop in the bucket. If you want pot holes fixed either the local government funding situation needs to be fixed or you need to give authorities ring fenced funding for it. Same with stuff like bin collections.
mancunian101 on
No one in government either local or national should be getting paid more than the PM.
We need to up the money for being an MP etc but at the same time really lockdown 2nd jobs, accepting gifts, personal donations (no free suits) etc.
Klumber on
This sort of reductive analysis is so stupid. An NHS Chief Exec for a territorial board in Scotland earns about £150k, they are personally accountable for performance, constantly slandered in the press for things outside their control and on top of that lead a hugely complex organisation with 15,000 workers. And you bet that when they’re on holiday they are still working because the pressure is enormous.
nellion91 on
How people don’t see that we invite overt corruption by paying decision makers less than good sales directors is beyond me.
How inhuman do you think they are? We make it ever so easy to buy them off
somnamna2516 on
not to defend council largesse but how can you make a comparison like for like with a standard PAYE salary? The PM gets rent free accommodation, £30K residential upgrade allowance, heavily subsidised food and drink in the HoC, transportation, staff, security, 5 star accomodation on diplomatic visits and a whopping great pension when they finish (even the lettuce got it)..
Silverwidows on
Oh, that’s where all the money for potholes has gone /s
FishUK_Harp on
The PM should be paid more.
As for council, the high salaries are overwhelmingly the council chief officers (or equivalent), who control a budget and number of staff comparable to large businesses. Their role – and thus their pay – is broadly along the lines of a CEO of a large corporation.
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If anything the PM should be paid more, rather than paying high level council officers or civil servants less.
Well we must have 300 amazingly run councils. Apparently the highest paid is at Staffordshire Council.
Loads of people get paid more than the PM for less responsibility, what’s the point?
>Some 4,733 council employees across Britain and Northern Ireland are now being paid more than £100,000 across the UK, the TPA’s annual report said.
God that is a staggering amount to be in 1% of earners. Will need to see if I can find more info about their job titles.
There should be a revolt against billionaire business owners that prey on the poor. And Nigel Farage, he is overpaid.
This is basically rage bait.
“More than the PM” sounds outrageous, but it strips out all context to get clicks. The reality is far more boring. These salaries aren’t set in isolation, they’re pulled up by the private sector.
If you want people capable of running complex services and managing huge budgets, you have to compete with what those same people can earn elsewhere. That’s all this is. Market rates showing up in the public sector.
Frame it properly and it’s not shocking at all. It’s just how hiring works.
I find it a joke that PM and ministers earn less than say… contracting Programme Manager / Programme Director in a good government or private sector IT project. The PM & ministers should be compensated adequately for what they are doing.
LBC Type headline.
„LBC called woke at suggestion PM should be payed more.“
Wake up babe, new crabs in a bucket headline just dropped!
„Workers“ is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. The headline is politically motivated to imply front line staff, none of whom see anything like that. It’s some council leaders and directors, of whom I’d bet quite a few are contractors filling the position temporarily until there is permanent recruitment, and consultants always cost more than permanent staff.
Though not a personal supporter, I do think we should give Starmer a massive raise for having to deal with Trump. How much would an extra £100K be between us all?
Not a problem if a lot of the councils weren’t bankrupt with the ones that aren’t raising tax left right and centre whilst providing awful service.
So what? The PM’s salary is artificially low and isn’t really the best comparator.
Being a Chief Executive of a council is a 24/7 job all of which is spent in the public eye. You are the beck and call of vexatious local politicians to say nothing of the crazies in the electorate who find out where you live.
Come an election the incoming leadership decide you are too closely aligned with the previous one and you are gone. If not then then when they „lose confidence“ in you to not pursue their illegal or irresponsible agenda, you’re also gone.
Not many people can do the job, or want it, hence the oft mentioned revolving door.
The PM is paid like shit for the job he does and the responsibilities he has.
Unpopular opinion
We should be paying MP’s vastly more than we are currently and the PM should obviously be paid much more than any council worker.
For context the majority of these „council workers“ are directors and chief executives on bodies with a revenue of over £1 billion and a five figure number of employees
If you cut these „workers“ pay in half you would save £20m or so nationwide. This would allow you to improve the roads in a single shire county. Except it wouldn’t.
Because older persons care is all consuming it would last a year before the cost of care and increasingly old population who we are keeping alive through more illness (which isnt cheap) than before swallows it up. For the single council that had nice roads for a year.
Paying chief execs a lot less than market rate rather than going all in and giving them middle management pay is a drop in the bucket. If you want pot holes fixed either the local government funding situation needs to be fixed or you need to give authorities ring fenced funding for it. Same with stuff like bin collections.
No one in government either local or national should be getting paid more than the PM.
We need to up the money for being an MP etc but at the same time really lockdown 2nd jobs, accepting gifts, personal donations (no free suits) etc.
This sort of reductive analysis is so stupid. An NHS Chief Exec for a territorial board in Scotland earns about £150k, they are personally accountable for performance, constantly slandered in the press for things outside their control and on top of that lead a hugely complex organisation with 15,000 workers. And you bet that when they’re on holiday they are still working because the pressure is enormous.
How people don’t see that we invite overt corruption by paying decision makers less than good sales directors is beyond me.
How inhuman do you think they are? We make it ever so easy to buy them off
not to defend council largesse but how can you make a comparison like for like with a standard PAYE salary? The PM gets rent free accommodation, £30K residential upgrade allowance, heavily subsidised food and drink in the HoC, transportation, staff, security, 5 star accomodation on diplomatic visits and a whopping great pension when they finish (even the lettuce got it)..
Oh, that’s where all the money for potholes has gone /s
The PM should be paid more.
As for council, the high salaries are overwhelmingly the council chief officers (or equivalent), who control a budget and number of staff comparable to large businesses. Their role – and thus their pay – is broadly along the lines of a CEO of a large corporation.