Bahnverbindung von Cambridge nach Oxford als „Wahnvorstellung“ bezeichnet
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/news-opinion/cambridge-oxford-rail-link-slammed-33731252
Von fantasy53
Bahnverbindung von Cambridge nach Oxford als „Wahnvorstellung“ bezeichnet
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/news-opinion/cambridge-oxford-rail-link-slammed-33731252
Von fantasy53
42 Kommentare
Despite the unfortunately hyperbolic title, the article does present a good mix of opinions on the project.
I don’t blame people for being cynical, especially when you see how the already existing section of East West rail from Milton Keynes to Oxford is being handled with disputes about whether that should be Driver only operated that are preventing it from opening, and the delays to HS2, but at the same time there have been some recent excellent successes with crossrail, the Northumberland stations and the new West Midlands camp hill line stations among others, though even those were delayed.
Local news website clickbaits using the formerly-green-ink brigade.
Gosh what a fucking miserable country we live in. Or so the press decide to picture it anyway. Imagine being upset by more convenient travel options. It’s such a weird take.
How many millions will we have to spend to save 2 families of bats this time?
The people who stand in the way of everything will be able to use all the avenues we helpfully lay out for them to kick up a fuss and ultimately cost this project hundreds of millions whether it finally gets built of not. Then they ask themselves what happens to all their taxes and why everything continues to go to shit.
Yeah waited an hour because of cancellations for a 5 minute ride could have walked it in that time.
I am so tired of this country’s lack of ambition. We can’t seriously call ourselves „Global Britain“ if this paltry bit of track is categorised as „delusional“. What a bunch of smalls.
How many consultations and meetings do they want to have about this? No wonder nothing gets built in the UK. What a joke we have become.
The track between Oxford and Milton Keynes has been prepared and the stations built. It only needs for an issue around guards on trains to be sorted and it will be running.
The bit between Milton Keynes (technically Bletchley) and Bedford never closed and has trains running on it now.
The bit between Bedford and Cambridge got ripped up in the 1970s, but there are well-developed plans for it. They are [consulting on it now](https://eastwestrail.co.uk/consultation/consultation2026/documents) if you want to support it.
And you should support it. Not only because more people on trains is a good thing, but because we need to show the whingers that we can still build stuff.
The US is sending people to the moon and back, meanwhile in the UK….
Public transport is great , but given our …ahem…track record , this would cost one trillion pounds and stop outside both towns.
Good to see that British journalists have not expanded their vocabulary.
An idea or organisation has been disputed or criticised?
SLAMMED!
The public are mildly concerned about something?
OUTRAGE!
A shop is closing as they have had no customers since 1993?
POPULAR SHOP TO CLOSE DOORS!
EWR is an environmentally award winning project. The first phase which was easier because it was reinstating tracks committed to voluntary biodiversity net gain and the large meadows they’ve created are genuinely decent and got some CIEEM awards. It showed to me it genuinely can be done well and with a benefit to our wildlife in the long term.
Phase 2 will be harder I’m sure, but if they do the same process, it’ll be such a good scheme
The article quotes 5 random people lol – hardly representative of a bigger movement. Total clickbait.
This country complains about the sorry state of intercity rail links between anywhere that isn’t London, and then complains when we decide to build one (or rather put it back).
Not only that. People complain about poor inner city transport. We used to have a vast network of commuter rail options, stations and lines that may not have been profitable in themselves, but allowed areas to be conveniently connected for jobs and economic growth. Instead of a 50 minute bus trip, you had a 15 minute train journey.
I know we’re considered a nation of moaners, but geez.
I really love living in a country where the idea that two institutionally significant cities being linked by rail so you don’t have to all the way into London is considered delusional
I’m amazed this Country actually managed to have an Industrial Revolution with the amount of Nimby’s living in it.
The mk to Oxford link has been open for over a year but still not accepting passengers, just freight.
Should be a national scandal that so much has been spent but due to a driver dispute it’s been allowed to remain shut.
So much revenue has been lost from buying trains that aren’t working and hiring staff all to sit at a depo and do sod all.
Any work or planning for the Bedford to Cambridge link is delusional when they can’t even open what’s already built and should be open.
… by the Reach commentariat.
I’ll take that for what it’s worth.
>Camssurvivor says: „I travelled on the last train from Bletchley to Cambridge nearly 60 years ago. If the line wasn’t considered financially viable and essential then, it certainly isn’t now. Governments have thrown money around like water.“
Why the fuck are we listening to people who clearly don’t live in the real world here? If they’re as old as they imply, I don’t think Camssurvivor wants to open the door to a conversation about things which used to be financially viable, but now aren’t….
They’ve asked a highly enlightened group of experts, such as ‚Windypants‘ and ‚Feelgood66‘ for their opinions on this balanced piece of ‚journalism‘. We should listen to them. I just love that infrastructure in our country is being held to ransom by NIMBYs and mountains of bureaucracy.
NIMBYs really do poison absolutely everything. The country that invented the train can no longer even link two of its best cities together.
Connecting two cities that could benefit from a straight train line is delusional?
> One reader questioned who would benefit. Weneedqueenmeghan comments: „It’s a private railway for the university. Nobody else will use it. They should pay for it themselves.“
As someone who lives just a few stops from Bedford station, absolutely fuck off.
Having to take trains to places 30 mins drive east or west of me currently takes 2 hours and a good chunk of 50 quid. (As one has to go via Kingscross)
As someone who doesn’t drive, the only reason I can get east or west for any reasonable price and time is because of Luton Airport having coaches
Ps. Also clearly shows how thick the person is that they believe „Oxbridge“ is just one big University
God. I live relatively close to this and the fucking locals hate it. But then, they also hate the buses, the busway, bike lanes and cars (and foreigners and poor people), so who fucking knows what the cunts actually want.
There’s a road out the back of Newton with a farm that has all the big signs about the new trains being bad and they should use a different route and they don’t want anything new. The road crosses the main King’s Cross rail line, so I don’t know what he thinks the alternatives are
Is it because it runs through constituencies of safe seat Tory and Labour MPs who are afriad they will not have a job where they can do fuck all?
‚Camssurvivor says: „I travelled on the last train from Bletchley to Cambridge nearly 60 years ago. If the line wasn’t considered financially viable and essential then, it certainly isn’t now. Governments have thrown money around like water.“‚
You heard it here folks, if something wasn’t done and proper in the 60s, it’s not done and proper now.
Good lord we might have the second dumbest population behind the USA. Those article comments made me lose brain cells.
„I travelled on the last train from Bletchley to Cambridge nearly 60 years ago. If the line wasn’t considered financially viable and essential then, it certainly isn’t now.“
Both the wider Oxford and Cambridge regions have had 50%+ population increase in those 60 years
They should never have shut the old line, the case for doing so was „tight“ anyway. And even after they did shut it they should not have allowed development on its trackbed.
This would open up a lot of job opportunities for people along that route. And haven’t they seen the huge roadworks between Bedford and Cambridge – there is a demand for that route.
Well yeah, it *is* delusional. What self-respecting Oxonian would *want* to travel to Cambridge?
/s if it wasn’t blindingly obvious
Think how much better the roads will be if we could actually transport things by rail and get rid of the trucks.
It would be a brilliant rail link, we frankly need it as a country as it is insane that the only way to get from East to West is to go into London and back out again.
In France there are nowhere near as many middlemen and planning stages, and anyone who loses their home is given an amount equal to the cost of their home prior to the announcement with an extra 5%. If we introduced these policies we could get this and more done way easier.
We need better rail links in this country, and especially ones that don’t require going in and out of London.
Local newspaper gives voice to the loudest / shoutiest / most miserable / stupid.
It is delusional, but not for any of the reasons in this article.
It is delusional for thinking it’ll help anything. Why would we build a railway between two incredibly high cost of living areas, when Cambridge has a massive housing problem, Peterborough is 30 miles away, has incredibly cheap housing, and it currently takes an hour to go between them by train.
A regular high speed Pboro to Cambridge link would do far more for both areas than this project.
How long has this been talked about? Hopefully we might learn some of the lessons of the HS2 shambles to actually deliver East West Rail without it turning into a white elephant costing 10s of billions and not making it past Bicester.
Aaaaah NIMBYs or BANANAs.
JFDI at this point.
The proposed Bedford alignment does need resolved, EWRs proposal is pretty awful currently.
Urgh. What a crap article.
I (Cams resident for over a decade) for one will be delighted if they finally open this link – going down into London then back out again sucks.
We dont even get a high speed rail linking Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds.
It’s happening, so these people should work with it and improve the design rather than shouting from the sidelines. To me the biggest concern is why is it taking so long?. They haven’t even worked out what to do with the Marston Vale line yet or the impact of Warner’s new theme park, never mind this end.
It’s a great idea to have that link and we should be connecting the research incubators up together
The only people that could be against this are nimbys
I want more non London links between things