„Kein verlässlicher Verbündeter“: Japan blickt auf die Nato, während Trump das Vertrauen in US-Garantien untergräbt

    https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3349766/japan-welcome-30-nato-envoys-trump-rattles-us-allies

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    1. Its shown all around during last year and especially in last couple of weeks.

      Tariffs on allied countries, threatening constantly, treating everybody like crap. Transactional politics. Everybody is abandoning USA, USA is basically becoming another USSR geopolitically.

      * Canada is basically done with USA.
      * NATO/EU/UK do not want to have anything to do with Trump. He abandoned Ukraine, tariffs, Greenland. Yeah, no, EU is shifting away.
      * Asian allies same thing. Insulting Japanese, taking away anti-air from Korea and moving it to Gulf, clearly lowering any support there.
      * Gulf countries are next, when Trump finally TACO and leaves the mess. They bribed him massively with airplane, funds for Kushner. They will be looking to not be reliant on USA.

      Trump is left with Netanyahu and thats kind of it. Nobody else wants to have anything to do with them.

      My guess – there will be creation of different blocks, who will be looking at USA as potential partner (if there is no moron in charge), not a true ally.

      EU will create a block (potentially with Canada and UK), Gulf countries too, Japan, Korea and Australia will create a pact as well. Maybe involve India, Philippines etc.

    2. Shirolicious on

      Japan doesn’t fit though in what nato is about. I mean geographically speaking.

      There are other ways for cooperation dont get me wrong, but eyeing nato isnt the one.

    3. socialistrob on

      Japan may not be able to fully join NATO but they absolutely need to change their „self defense“ provisions and start working more directly with other democracies. They should allow themselves to both import and export weapons from other countries and even send weapons to Ukraine for real world testing.

      China is building up their military regardless of what Japan does and right now Japan only spends 1.4% of GDP on defense. For reference China spends 1.7% and S Korea spends 2.6%. At the very least Japan should spend 2% of GDP on defense.

    4. SpyFromMarsHXJD on

      When people are saying China has disputes with almost all countries around, they forget Japan literally has dispute with every single one around it

    5. NATO ends up consisting of every country, except the US and Russia. How strange would that be?

    6. Not_Tom_Jones on

      Sounds good to me. Let’s get South Korea and Australia in the boat too.

      We could just call it the Pacific Ocean and Trans Atlantic Treaty Organization.

    7. Vova_Poutine on

      Important to note that this is an observer’s take on it, not a quote from anyone in the Japanese government as the headline is trying to imply. 

    8. The US Congress could remove him at any time

      I’m pretty sure democrats would vote with Republicans in the Senate to have Trump removed from office

      Except thay Republicans are cowards and love power. They will never remove him from ooffice.

      The damage he is doing to the US will take a long long time to recover from, if ever.

    9. FederalGovernmentUS on

      The top three most powerful militaries in the world are all under authoritarian control. The rise of AI is going to consolidate power in the hands of corporations, some of which already exceed the GDP of moderately sized nations. The consolidation of wealth and influence has made the top 0.1% completely untouchable for anything they do.

      We need courage, because the authoritarians are seizing power at a time where we need strong, moral leadership. Technology is going through another revolution of incomprehensible magnitude. And it will be used to amass more power, more wealth – it’s not to keep the people safe. It truly is now, a brave new world.

    10. Justagirl1918 on

      All the Allied countries are probably/privately looking into different economic, political and security organizations that reflect their new reality🤔

    11. TheFrickinThrowAway on

      This is the quote made by an Australian professor and no one that’s Japanese:
      “ It cannot have been lost on Tokyo that the US is no longer a reliable ally under Trump.”

      Lmao and Reddit will eat it up 

    12. Electrical_Engineer_ on

      Why is a Chinese propaganda website by allowed to post here, especially when it going to be biased on this topic?

    13. Holy shit the Schaudenfreud over the next few years as Americans see the actual impact of their actions is going to be delicious. You think your gas is expensive now? Just wait.

    14. It’s funny the online Japanese nationalists used to worship him but lately even they’ve started to notice how crazy he is. I see more and more people saying how they cannot believe American people for choosing this guy and the US is no longer our ally.

    15. The problem with Trump is you’re either an ally or something to be taken advantage of.

    16. Powderedeggs2 on

      Not even the closest allies trust the U.S. anymore.
      Some of these former allies have spoken openly about starting up their own nuclear arms programs.
      They no longer believe U.S. promises to protect them with a „nuclear umbrella“.

    17. UnoriginalStanger on

      Kinda funny though since if Japan joined NATO (despite not being part of the north atlantic in any way) it would still primarily rely on military assistance from the US if attacked as they are the ones with military pressence in the region.

    18. The_Rat_Attack on

      Trump 2 has truly been the worst thing that could have happened to the world

    19. GlitteringLychee803 on

      Japan fucking LOVES everything American. If you lose the narrative, as an American president, with Japanese people, you’ve fucked up HARD.

    20. CinnamonToastTrex on

      I remember thinking that Trump’s first term would have irreparable consequences on the US reputation internationally.

      Then we elected that fuckhead again.

    21. All too predictable and rational. “America First” means “America alone.” I wonder how that will work out?

    22. The headline is bad/clickbait. The quoted words are not attributed to Japan but to some political analyst specifically commenting on the story.

    23. The damage Trump has made to American image is beyond anything I could ever imagine. I still have to pinch myself sometimes when I see and hear him.

    24. Japan has been heavily siding with the US in this new Cold War against China.

      I wonder if the NATO (sans US) can replace that role for Japan, because I don’t see the rest of the member nations being as capable or adversarial against China.

    25. BreakImaginary1661 on

      Trump is all about decimating everything good in this world. I just hope the world can forgive us and give us a chance to reclaim our global standing (hopefully, drastically improve it with real, progressive policy changes) after this shitshow is over.

    26. Kushner is going to sink the USA along with Israel. That’s the plan. It’s amazing how they control the US armed forces.

    27. flriverlivin on

      The task of the next president to repair the damage done will be monumental. Legislative branch is simply useless at this point.

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