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    1. smashedspuds on

      And it should be acknowledged that the protesters would be on far from minimum wage

    2. ThoseAreMyFeet on

      From a business perspective, wages, taxes, rent, finance, other inputs all add up. Then add in a spike in fuel cost, doesn’t be long making a business uneconomic. 

      A truck might have a 500L tank, might do 1000km on a fill. Another €100 every day or two and things get expensive fast.

    3. apocalypsedg on

      It just goes to show how detached from reality the protestors truly are

    4. Rich_Tea_Bean on

      Every other cost associated with doing business in ireland is also higher. For a crowd that have complained about misinformation this is a perfect example of it.

    5. Toffeeman_1878 on

      But but but…the great replacement…but but but…the gubberment are trying to control our movement…but but but…drill baby drill…but but but…it’s all a hoax…but but but…

    6. Silent_Pattern_1407 on

      Would you please stop bringing facts to this debate! You said there will be no fact checking!

    7. SirJoePininfarina on

      This is what I keep pointing to whenever the cost of things in Ireland is brought up; can you actually not afford it though? If we have the second highest minimum wage in the EU, of course our goods and services are going to cost more.

      But if we have the second highest minimum wage in the EU, we should also be able to afford those higher cost goods and services. If we can’t, there’s a problem. And in terms of consumption, in terms of economic activity, we’re doing grand.

      That doesn’t mean there aren’t problems; housing, both access to it and the amount coming to the market, are massive problems, as is the cost of it as a proportion of earnings. But we’re not as much of an outlier in this or other areas than we think.

      Irish people in general need to familiarise themselves with the situation in neighbouring countries and how little we often differ from them.

    8. Toffeeman_1878 on

      Germany, population 85 million…has just announced a €1.6 billion fuel relief package. Ireland, population 5 million, has announced €750 million fuel package and counting. If the German government adopted a similar approach as their Irish peers they would’ve announced a €14.25 billion package.

    9. TheWayLifeGoes00 on

      One of the highest insurance in the Eu, road tax, NCT, VRT to clear a vehicle.

      I’d argue that this isn’t even a fuel protest anymore, it’s more of an affordability protest.

    10. Impressive-Smoke1883 on

      Is this without eating, drinking, shitting, sleeping and living? Just driving?

    11. Mikeosaurus on

      Is this taking into account any other costs of living? Accomodation, food or electricity costs? I feel like this comparison may be a bit unrealistic

    12. fullmoonbeam on

      Ah here OP give your figures a bit of bloody context, I asked Claude to take a look at these same figures after living cost are taken into account and the picture is very different. I think in most European countries people are much less dependent on cars than in Ireland because there is better public transport options and there’s probably less tolls. FYI I am totally against the disgraceful way these protests played out blocking oil from flowing but absolutely get the pressure people, families and business are under.

      https://preview.redd.it/gza0sysozyug1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce2dae3caf1562a6d7afe39935e0abbafcc82011

    13. From where are you pulling the minimum wage info? It’s wrong for Ireland and Croatia…

    14. is-it-my-turn-yet on

      This really proves nothing either way. So many factors not being accounted for, such as housing cost and other expenses, potential non-wage contributions to income (e.g. welfare), taxation, availability of alternatives to driving, etc.

    15. kryptonite84 on

      Now do the same table for rent and public transport…do how many months of rent you can afford a year in ireland vs other countries.

    16. SoftwareSource on

      Fuck fuel subsidies, the world needs renewable subsidies.

      Middle east, Russia and the US have the world by the balls as long as we use fossil fuels.

    17. anotherwave1 on

      Such an odd metric to choose. When me and my friends were at the minimum wage stage we had like 1 car between 7 of us.

      They all went on and got proper jobs pretty sharpish, I dicked around in minimum wage jobs for years, not a chance I could afford a car (this was back in the 90’s and early 2000’s)

    18. Looking a tad inaccurate, at least for france, the weekly earnings are ~420 and not ~270 (sMIC is ~1450 net) likwise spain is also higher than listed here

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