
Schmerzmittel verhindern Schmerzreaktionen bei Hummern – Dies ist ein weiterer Beweis dafür, dass Krebstiere Schmerzen empfinden können und dass humanere Methoden zu ihrer Tötung entwickelt werden müssen.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1123639
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Painkillers prevent pain responses in Norway lobsters
Common human painkillers also work on Norway lobsters, according to research from the University of Gothenburg. This is further evidence that crustaceans may feel pain and that more humane methods of killing them need to be developed.
Norway, New Zealand and Austria have banned the boiling of live crustaceans on ethical grounds, and similar legislation is now being proposed in the United Kingdom. The fishing industry is therefore investigating whether electric shocks could be used to stun the animals before cooking.
Painful electric shocks
However, more research is needed into how crustaceans react to pain in order to develop the most humane slaughter method. If these animals are not shocked correctly, it could be possibly very painful.
“There is already evidence that decapod crustaceans exhibit signs of discomfort and stress, when exposed to injuries such as forced removal of a claw. Our latest experiments show that Norway lobsters react adversely to electric shocks which are painful to humans,” says Lynne Sneddon, Professor of zoophysiology at the University of Gothenburg.
In a new study published in Scientific Reports, researchers observed that when Norway lobsters were exposed to electric shocks in water, they attempted to escape by rapidly flipping their tail. However, if the Norway lobster were treated in advance with common painkillers, tail flipping decreased or were eliminated when they were exposed to the potentially painful electric shocks.
For those interested, here’s the link to the peer reviewed journal article:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-026-41687-w
Or maybe…. don’t Kill them?
How about we just don’t kill them instead?
Serious question, btw – octopuses are already being recognised as intelligent. Why not other marine animals?
For sure all animals feel pain, pain is just the name we gave to the most primitive repulsive drive.
And even plants use a lot of the same transmitters and messengers as us.
The issue is what their experience of pain is like, and how that should tie into our value systems. If it’s even possible to „rank“ experience anyhow
I didn’t think we needed studies to tell us that animals feel pain, plants feel pain, of course crustaceans do too!
Pain is one of the oldest and simplest behavior modifiers. Evolved to keep a creature with a primitive brain from hurting itself too much as it moves about.
The pain response is instinctual and so old it predates the lobsters lineage by many hundreds of millions of years.
As soon as animals could move, the pain response became nessesary. The first species that evolved it had a massive advantage over it competitors.
In other words: of course a lobster feels pain. Even something as simple as an earthworm or a snail feels pain.
Lobsters eat fish. Lobsters do not care about the fish’s suffering. Why should anyone care about the lobster?
You can also eat less or not eat at all, those are also options
“May feel pain” of course they feel pain
Or we just give em a nice morphine send off before splitting their head with a knife or popping them into a pot o hot water.
Of course the fact it gives huge amounts of pleasure, then all the religious types who are anti anything pleasurable would be against it and the fact people would want to partake in the pleasure as well means it can’t be possible.
Why eat them in the first place? Let them live free and happy
It’s insane to me that we are still all pretending we don’t know whether or not animals feel pain
Can’t we do them like dairy cows and put a 22 in their head?
More humane methods need to be developed? You turn them upside down severe thier brain with a sharp kitchen knife, they die instantly
Make sure you get them into the hot pot just as fast though
How do they differentiate between „responded less because they feel less pain“ and „responded less because they feel less“?
Thread full of people hating themselves for being human and craving nourishment
How can you possibly derive the existance of feelings merely by observing physical movement.
Or even derive it from changes in biochemistry, or changes in physical matter.
How do you know that physical state x + y + z are both neccessary and sufficient for qualia or phenomenal experiences. (When you can’t see nor gain direct access to mental states.)
Do “more humane ways of killing them” need to be developed, or can we just… not kill then in the first place?
Wow living beings feel pain? Who could have guessed >.>
Amazing how someone who as a human should be able to feel empathy, especially for an animal able to feel pain can end a sentence with „more humane methods of killing them need to be invented“ Truly baffling how cognitive dissonance works so well to prevent someone from reasoning about the world
Lobsters lack a central nervous system but have a peripherally distributed nervous system with a total number of neurons in the 100,000 range. This is lower than many insects like bees and ants. Do they feel pain? Probably, but do they have consciousness? Almost certainly not. If you are concerned about the pain experienced by lobsters you can freeze it and stab behind its eyes.
If this is the case than we should not eat them at all.
In the uK we are required to pith them. Dropping into boiling water is now a no-no.
I just read a story about a guy accidentally taking LSD before he had to kill over 100 lobsters for a wedding banquet. I hope he’s doing ok with this news
Nitrous Oxide.
I remember reading about experiments in animal euthanasia where they tried NO.
Some animals which weren’t sick but were briefly exposed to judge their behaviour were so enamoured with the euphoria that they fought against handlers trying to remove the animal from the testing apparatus.