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  1. Should’ve made it $17, I guess. Surprised the no side didn’t spend much. Wouldn’t the business class try really hard to stop this?

  2. Top_Natural_1 on

    Raising the minimum wage even higher is just stupid. Imagine how expensive McDonalds and Walmart would get if they had to pay their workers 18 dollars an hour

  3. I hope they try again. Maybe index it to what rent costs in the county they work in.

  4. SidratFlush on

    Why are people voting against themselves? Was their confusion about the Proposition itself? Even at $18 it’s still less than $150 for an eight hour shift. That’s what you pay taxes on too.

    I know some areas of California have a far higher cost of living than others, but this wouldn’t break the economy in any way and could actually increase tax income more than having a tangible effect on the spending power of the citizens.

  5. HonestLemon25 on

    California voters finally wising up and avoiding voting for things that will invariably raise the COL

  6. Adventurous-Roof488 on

    It’s so unpopular that the supporters raised $11M more than the opposition and still lost.

  7. Straight_Waltz_9530 on

    We have rent control, just not for renters. They’re called fixed rate mortgages. Combined with Prop 13 we’ve managed to create one of the most regressive tax systems out there with municipalities having to jack up sales tax to make ends meet. Meanwhile, younger generations are paying older generations‘ mortgages on income property through their rent without seeing any relief.

    Minimum wage increases just end up being money directly siphoned from society to the landlord class rather than providing any material improvement to the lives of workers.

    Fix the underlying problems. Repeal Prop 13. Institute a land value tax. Abolish most restrictive single family home only zoning. The landlords will of course cry foul the loudest, but it’s not class warfare just because the non-wealthy start to fight back.

    And what about the older folks on fixed incomes that will be taxed out of their homes? That was the original stated goal to avoid with Prop 13, so let’s actually do that without all the extra nonsense. Do some means testing for seniors to help those in need without having the wealthy and corporations gobbling up the rest on tax breaks they don’t need or deserve.

  8. A lot of people seem to think that raising the minimum wage doesn’t help workers because 100% of the pay increase is instantly absorbed by greedy landlords and all it does is increase the cost of living for everyone else. As if my middle class life style depends on your abject poverty.

    Thats not how it works though. The average person spends 25-50% of their income on housing. Meaning EVEN IF there is housing scarcity and all the landlords collectively raised rents, 50-75% of that minimum wage increase is making it through into their pockets.

    Even if we go with the doomer scenario that 100% of gains are captured by landlords, that would create a massive incentive to build more housing because of all the new profit to be made. As the housing supply increases, landlords will start to compete for renters and face pressure to lower rents to attract tenants.

    Not to mention that I would much rather the economy be focused on building housing than extracting wealth from communities to pay for higher CEO compensation and dividends for stockholders.

    California fast food workers already have a minimum wage of $20 and people tossed out wild speculations that employment would plummet and prices skyrocket. That hasn’t happened though.

    Wages increased 8-9%, employment went down 2.3% more than the rest of the country’s fast food employment, and cost of food went up 1.5%.

    https://www.nber.org/papers/w34033

    https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/brief/effects-of-the-20-california-fast-food-minimum-wage/

  9. The businesses in the areas that votes yes, always have the option of paying $18 an hour, no government mandate required.
    However, i was told that $15 was a living wage…

  10. StormEcho98-87 on

    This is just stupid. $18?! I’m paid that and I live decently in Georgia. How the hell is your living standard over there that high?

  11. AleroRatking on

    The problem is this kills a shit ton of small business

    The corporations that are making billions can survive this. The mom and pop shops in debt trying to survive can’t

  12. CalaveraPrimera on

    I remember losing my job after fast food companies were required to pay $20 the hour so I understand

  13. NeverEverMaybe0_0 on

    I don’t know how to solve people from all over wanting to live here. I do have a solution for ever increasing taxes.

  14. johnnylovelace on

    “A nation of temporarily embarrassed millionaires” -John Steinbeck

  15. glassFractals on

    The coastal urban areas are of course far more liberal than the inland areas, but also the coastal areas have a much higher cost of living, and more need for the boosted minimum wage.

    California should really adopt a minimum wage scheme similar to New York. New York has a higher minimum wage in the NYC area than in the rest of the state. That just makes sense.

    Meanwhile, indexing minimum wage to inflation is a no-brainer.

  16. StIdes-and-a-swisher on

    All the poorest counties voted against raising the poorest people’s wages.

  17. yeah prop 13 is bullshit, especially when the washed up old ghouls go nimby and block all construction

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