I would like whatever koolaid this guy is drinking to make them think that US achieved “tactical success” in this conflict with Iran. If anything China and the rest of the world allies and adversaries included are laughing at the US right now.
fuggitdude22 on
This is an incredibly hubristic take. Taiwan is not analogous to Iran at all. It is an island which cannot enforce economic warfare to the extent that the blockade on the Strait of Hormuz triggered.
Additionally, I have a strong feeling that EU would be apathetic towards China’s invasion of Taiwan and treat it like the Russian-Chechen Wars. If China encircles Taiwan via naval blockade. Chinese drones and missiles have the capacity to discombobulate every cargo ship and tankers approaching Taiwan from far inland. Likewise, any directed bombing campaign on Chinese military or civilian assets could crescendo a much more wide spread and brutal conflict in Pacific Region.
NoMidnight5366 on
What tactical successes are we taking about? We have no real disclosure from the government about the operations except they blew up a lot of stuff. We are attacking a country which doesn’t have the technological advances we do and which China does. Any attack on China by the US would not have the air dominance that we do in Iran and all the other countries we have attacked in the past decades.
DukeandKate on
China is not Iran. For one it is a manufacturing giant and can produce missiles and drone faster and cheaper than the US and Taiwan. It is likely they will overwhelm defenses and have air superiority.
Like Iran, commercial sea traffic would be halted. Making life difficult for Taiwanese.
The economic impact on the US would be emense.
watch-nerd on
For those in the thread who aren’t clear on how one can have tactical success (but also a strategic set back), here is what the article highlights:
„[Iran](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/regions/iran) managed to close the strait, but its missile campaign fell well short of expectations. The BBC reported that in the first five days of the war, Iran launched 550 ballistic missiles and 1,500 drones against targets in the Gulf and 128 ballistic missiles and 1,100 drones against Israel. Thanks to U.S. air defenses and those of U.S. allies, very few got through. On February 28 and March 1 alone, U.S. and Gulf militaries intercepted 400 Iranian missiles and 1,000 drones, according to *The* *Wall Street Journal*. Iran launched 262 ballistic missiles and 1,475 drones at the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in the first ten days of the war; only two missiles and 90 drones hit the country. Of the more than 290 missiles and 500 drones that Iran had launched at Israel by March 15, none were reported to have hit any military target of significance. After March 15, a few missiles and drones infiltrated Israel’s air defenses and struck civilian areas; one hit the Old City in Jerusalem. As of April 3, at least 250 Israelis had been killed or injured, and air raid warnings have been frequent. The overall harm, however, was still relatively low.“
The US military has a strong track record in tactical victories paired with strategic failures.
Strategic failures are often finger-pointed to political leadership.
DaySecure7642 on
If the US attacking Iran is wrong, China invading Taiwan will be even more wrong and immoral 100 times. Killing innocents people for land grabs is just evil no matter how you excuse it.
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I would like whatever koolaid this guy is drinking to make them think that US achieved “tactical success” in this conflict with Iran. If anything China and the rest of the world allies and adversaries included are laughing at the US right now.
This is an incredibly hubristic take. Taiwan is not analogous to Iran at all. It is an island which cannot enforce economic warfare to the extent that the blockade on the Strait of Hormuz triggered.
Additionally, I have a strong feeling that EU would be apathetic towards China’s invasion of Taiwan and treat it like the Russian-Chechen Wars. If China encircles Taiwan via naval blockade. Chinese drones and missiles have the capacity to discombobulate every cargo ship and tankers approaching Taiwan from far inland. Likewise, any directed bombing campaign on Chinese military or civilian assets could crescendo a much more wide spread and brutal conflict in Pacific Region.
What tactical successes are we taking about? We have no real disclosure from the government about the operations except they blew up a lot of stuff. We are attacking a country which doesn’t have the technological advances we do and which China does. Any attack on China by the US would not have the air dominance that we do in Iran and all the other countries we have attacked in the past decades.
China is not Iran. For one it is a manufacturing giant and can produce missiles and drone faster and cheaper than the US and Taiwan. It is likely they will overwhelm defenses and have air superiority.
Like Iran, commercial sea traffic would be halted. Making life difficult for Taiwanese.
The economic impact on the US would be emense.
For those in the thread who aren’t clear on how one can have tactical success (but also a strategic set back), here is what the article highlights:
„[Iran](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/regions/iran) managed to close the strait, but its missile campaign fell well short of expectations. The BBC reported that in the first five days of the war, Iran launched 550 ballistic missiles and 1,500 drones against targets in the Gulf and 128 ballistic missiles and 1,100 drones against Israel. Thanks to U.S. air defenses and those of U.S. allies, very few got through. On February 28 and March 1 alone, U.S. and Gulf militaries intercepted 400 Iranian missiles and 1,000 drones, according to *The* *Wall Street Journal*. Iran launched 262 ballistic missiles and 1,475 drones at the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in the first ten days of the war; only two missiles and 90 drones hit the country. Of the more than 290 missiles and 500 drones that Iran had launched at Israel by March 15, none were reported to have hit any military target of significance. After March 15, a few missiles and drones infiltrated Israel’s air defenses and struck civilian areas; one hit the Old City in Jerusalem. As of April 3, at least 250 Israelis had been killed or injured, and air raid warnings have been frequent. The overall harm, however, was still relatively low.“
The US military has a strong track record in tactical victories paired with strategic failures.
Strategic failures are often finger-pointed to political leadership.
If the US attacking Iran is wrong, China invading Taiwan will be even more wrong and immoral 100 times. Killing innocents people for land grabs is just evil no matter how you excuse it.