Meinung | Unzufriedene Konservative sollten nicht zu Carneys Liberalen überlaufen – sie sollten Poilievre ersetzen

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/fairweather-conservatives-shouldnt-defect-to-carneys-liberals–they-should-replace-poilievre/article_fb8c9e20-9c7c-487e-a205-7886821ece8e.html

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  1. GraveDiggingCynic on

    And what if the unhappy conservatives fall below the threshold necessary to remove Poilievre under the Reform Act? They should just endlessly pound their heads against the walls?

    If the majority of caucus won’t remove him, then there’s not much alternative but to leave; either to form a shadow caucus that is relatively impotent and is likely to vote for the Government, or to actually join the Government benches and have a much more direct say in legislation.

    Pierre Poilievre and the majority of the Tory caucus (apparently) created this situation. They can live with the consequences of a smaller Tory caucus and a Liberal majority, largely because Pierre Poilievre, as it turns out, sucks at the most basic of his roles; that as his party’s political manager. Maybe the whole party should think about what they actually want in a leader the next time they’re asked.

  2. DukeandKate on

    No argument but they had their chance. It is clear there is a disconnect between the rank and file CPC members and MPs. I don’t blame them for baling. It will be a while before the next review.

  3. stephenBB81 on

    While I agree the unHappy Conservatives should have positioned a new Leader, I think the Conservative Party isn’t yet split 60:40 to see any real groundswell to make that happen.

    You’ll need more people to leave the party to start getting people who are only weakly in the PP camp to realize hey I might need to find someone else to support, but it wont happen without a big tipping point.

    I feel like if they lose 5 more members that either go Liberal, or Independent, or even just say they are stepping out of politics in the next 12 months, those in the party that are closer to centre but not close enough for Carney will start a groundswell to position a challenger to Poilievre

  4. Astrowelkyn on

    Cons likely find it more palatable to join Carney than to turn away from Maple MAGA and course correction their own party.

  5. Informal_University9 on

    People are showing they want Progressive Conservative mindset, not Reform. Carney is winning the hearts and minds of the PC party but also the Liberals. PP needs to go.

  6. randomzebrasponge on

    Of course, they should and thankfully they are all too stupid to know better.

  7. Iapetus_Industrial on

    Counterpoint: they should do no such thing, it’s funnier this way.

  8. bandersnatching on

    This is simply a deflection by a Conservative hardliner, from scrutiny of the Conservative Party, its leader and participants.

    The „they should replace Poilievre“ moment has passed. The party itself made it impossible to do so. Despite him losing his own riding, and the country, they have endorsed his leadership by a wide margin.

    The party must now live with the consequences. The only thing left for disempowered Conservatives to do, is to leave the party, and they will do so at an increasing rate.

    At some point, the party will implode, a purge will occur, and Harper’s remnants and Poilievre’s enablers and sycophants will retire with their buckets of gravy to the private sector or other forms of indolence.

    But we are not waiting, The world and Conservatives disempowered by their own party have already moved on.

  9. Top_Table_3887 on

    Too bad they didn’t do that at the convention.

    If the $1000 price tag on admission brought in the majority of PP’s supporters and excluded the Conservatives who are unhappy with his direction, what does that say about the party’s current priorities?

  10. mcurbanplan on

    Hot take, but it’s so obviously *not* frustration with Poilievre since these MPs happily ran under his banner. This is especially clear with Gladu, who was much MORE right-wing and than him up until five minutes ago.

    It’s clearly a low-risk gamble for power in the case of MPs who almost lost to the Liberals in 2025, and pork barrel backroom deals in Gladus case, as she comfortably won as a Conservative with her aforementioned record.

  11. vaderdidnothingwr0ng on

    Yeah probably, but they just had a leadership convention and the party overwhelmingly supported him so whatcha gonna do?

  12. Even-Department7476 on

    The majority of Canadians fall in the center of the political spectrum and that is where the Carney government sits. Perhaps many of the MPs crossing the floor see that is where they should be as opposed to the far right that PP and his minions have taken the CPC.

  13. Poilievre watching Jagmeet drive the future of his party into oblivion:
    „Hold my beer.“

  14. Primary_Judge on

    Why wouldn’t you want PP to remain? If he’s so bad, you should be cheering him on.

  15. athanathios on

    I hate any party to have a majority, I hate having only 2 viable parties at the moment and I hate this trend.

    Introduce ranked voting please

  16. IAmNotARacoon on

    I would agree. Unless, maybe they see something we don’t. Maybe they see that for whatever reason, changing party leaders is just not in the cards. I mean… They just had a leadership review, and good old PP somehow had overwhelming support. So, the conclusion here is that the CPC has truly lost its way and are just going to double down on what Canadians rejected.

  17. Just-Signature-3713 on

    Of course they should but they didn’t and so now you have this.

  18. Sea-Safety-6130 on

    Replace with the usual liberal-lites? No, now is the time to reinforce conservative values otherwise average Canadians will lose even more independence. Liberals are now a dictatorship and care little about average people just trying to earn a living and keep more cash in their pockets. We are being abused with taxes.

  19. ether_reddit on

    Or even start their own party. All they need is 12 disgruntled MPs to form a new party that gets official status, including representation on commitees. I bet Carney would even be in favour of poroguing parliament in order to reset the commitee allocations to take some spots away from the Conservatives.

  20. This makes sense to me. The idea of Gladu moving to the Liberals pisses off Liberals and Conservatives alike. The solution is to dump PP and find a leader that isn’t so radioactive…AND not subsequently stab him in the back.

  21. No_Refrigerator_2489 on

    I’ve always voted Conservative but I do mostly align myself to the centre (hence how Mark Carney got my vote). I couldn’t believe how badly P and his team fumbled the election, but I was more in shock he was kept on as leader. Alberta needs to read the room.

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