In short, it would be a nightmare and what would Parliament replace it with?
ArbainHestia on
> If someone got a post-secondary education, they would lose their status.
I had to look that up and that’s insane. I knew women who married non-natives lost their status but this one was new to me.
maxgrody on
They vote against it
JustSomeYukoner on
Most First Nations people I know would love to have it abolished, and replaced with nothing. A human is a human is a human, and they don’t need an act to govern them. I couldn’t agree more
GusClay on
Why replace it? Just get rid of it. Treat all people like humans. We can still recognize the history of our native people.
Samp90 on
For one, stop calling it an Indian act.
Edit – People are down voting. The name is out dated. The name needs to updated.
voltairesalias on
Because it pays to be Indian.
IndependenceGood1835 on
Justin Trudeau made promises to Gord Downie and like all leaders did nothing
gbinasia on
Like with any system, it’s hard to get consensus on what to replace it with. Often because those systems create an elite that has interests in contesting it just enough to gain more but not seriously following through. With this act, it is further complicated by the multitude of different nations under it.
There is the example in Quebec of 3 First Nations/Inuit being exempt from that act with the JBNQA, which is basically tolerated by the federal government but whose legal framework is sometimes questioned. They pay taxes and agree to share land claims in exchange for a guarantee of services. They are incrementally pushing for more autonomy but complete independence seems unlikely. I am not sure if it yields better results but they seem to foster more institutions than separate bands under one act would.
YourOverlords on
Read the red paper or „citizen plus“ paper by Cardinal. That’s why.
WeirdGuyOnTheTrain on
All I know is that people have extremely strong opinions on it yet don’t know much about it.
James_p_hat on
Because there’s a lot of Indians I guess?
Scott-YYC on
Canadians in general seem reluctant to make any positive changes.
drewdipshits on
I highly recommend reading “21 Things You May Not Know About The Indian Act: Helping Canadians Make Reconciliation with Indigenous Peoples a Reality” by Bob Joseph. Doesn’t detail everything in the act, but it’s an extremely great starting point for anyone looking to learn more.
underdabridge on
„and imposed elected band councils to replace traditional systems of governance.“
As an aside, this talking point always pisses me off.
If the band wants to follow a hereditary chief or matrilineal Council, all it needs to do is vote for those people. The fact that they don’t tells us everything we need to know about who this change really bothers and who it doesn’t.
Cody667 on
Its a pretty polarizing two-sided issue among indigenous Canadians. It’s incredibly racist and was wielded as a sword by the government against Indigenous people for over a century, but it today is also the source of a fuck ton of their rights as well as a reference point for courts frequently ruling in their favour.
It’s kinda just something no one wants to touch with a 40 foot pole.
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In short, it would be a nightmare and what would Parliament replace it with?
> If someone got a post-secondary education, they would lose their status.
I had to look that up and that’s insane. I knew women who married non-natives lost their status but this one was new to me.
They vote against it
Most First Nations people I know would love to have it abolished, and replaced with nothing. A human is a human is a human, and they don’t need an act to govern them. I couldn’t agree more
Why replace it? Just get rid of it. Treat all people like humans. We can still recognize the history of our native people.
For one, stop calling it an Indian act.
Edit – People are down voting. The name is out dated. The name needs to updated.
Because it pays to be Indian.
Justin Trudeau made promises to Gord Downie and like all leaders did nothing
Like with any system, it’s hard to get consensus on what to replace it with. Often because those systems create an elite that has interests in contesting it just enough to gain more but not seriously following through. With this act, it is further complicated by the multitude of different nations under it.
There is the example in Quebec of 3 First Nations/Inuit being exempt from that act with the JBNQA, which is basically tolerated by the federal government but whose legal framework is sometimes questioned. They pay taxes and agree to share land claims in exchange for a guarantee of services. They are incrementally pushing for more autonomy but complete independence seems unlikely. I am not sure if it yields better results but they seem to foster more institutions than separate bands under one act would.
Read the red paper or „citizen plus“ paper by Cardinal. That’s why.
All I know is that people have extremely strong opinions on it yet don’t know much about it.
Because there’s a lot of Indians I guess?
Canadians in general seem reluctant to make any positive changes.
I highly recommend reading “21 Things You May Not Know About The Indian Act: Helping Canadians Make Reconciliation with Indigenous Peoples a Reality” by Bob Joseph. Doesn’t detail everything in the act, but it’s an extremely great starting point for anyone looking to learn more.
„and imposed elected band councils to replace traditional systems of governance.“
As an aside, this talking point always pisses me off.
If the band wants to follow a hereditary chief or matrilineal Council, all it needs to do is vote for those people. The fact that they don’t tells us everything we need to know about who this change really bothers and who it doesn’t.
Its a pretty polarizing two-sided issue among indigenous Canadians. It’s incredibly racist and was wielded as a sword by the government against Indigenous people for over a century, but it today is also the source of a fuck ton of their rights as well as a reference point for courts frequently ruling in their favour.
It’s kinda just something no one wants to touch with a 40 foot pole.
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