Den Mitarbeitern des King’s College wurde gesagt, sie sollten die Grammatik ignorieren, während sie sich für Inklusion einsetzen
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/top-british-university-dumbing-down-staff-ignore-grammar-5HjdXPZ_2/
Von plain_handle
Den Mitarbeitern des King’s College wurde gesagt, sie sollten die Grammatik ignorieren, während sie sich für Inklusion einsetzen
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/top-british-university-dumbing-down-staff-ignore-grammar-5HjdXPZ_2/
Von plain_handle
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> Assessment should be “culturally responsive” and „reward the use of ‚language culture and identity“ while marking should “embrace linguistic diversity” according to the new framework.
Are they changing the criteria to make passing of international students who barely speak English look less corrupt? Or are they changing the criteria as a pathetic infantalisation of young people?
>King’s College London wants to reduce “over-reliance” on traditional exams, with students to be **offered more choice in how they are assessed, such as coursework**.
Who came up with this cunning plan, Prof. Baldrick?
Academics are literally tearing their hair out about students using ChatGPT to write essays/coursework and now some ‚genius‘ has decided to increase coursework. The lecturers I know are saying that because of AI more emphasis needs to be placed on exams.
Shock Horror, University infamous for terrible student satisfaction has low student satisfaction
Bruv KCL mans are MOVING mad still. Cutting essay word counts to 1300? That’s peak, fam. You lot paying bare Ps in tuition and they’re out here dumbing ting down like you can’t handle it? Wasteman behaviour from upper management, no cap.
It’s like this yeah. Why can’t mans come to Kings and write like mans want. You dun know. Mans ain’t even a real king. Like a professor or summit.
And this „ideas not grammar“ ting – nah blud, that ain’t it. When you step into the job to make paper, they ain’t gonna care about your „lived experience“ if your writing’s all over the place, you get me? Mans tryna bag a bag after graduation and these lot are on some next level clout chasing with the EDI slides.
The fact that STUDENTS penned a letter against it is sending me.The uni thought they was being dead and the mandem clapped back. Classic L from management, they got merked by their own yutes.
Real talk though – the academics spitting facts. You want a deep, hard education, not some watered down ting so middle management can justify their wage. Sort it out KCL, on god.
If I was a student, I’d be celebrating given tuition prices but this isn’t a good thing for society lol
I used to be a visiting lecturer and tutor at UCL (where I also studied) and we had clear guidelines on marking someone’s work. One of the difficult things was language (it was an engineering course) but it was still expected that students would be able to write coherent sentences. I’m not originally British myself but I worked very hard on getting my English to a professional level.
UCL is full of international students and even with its reputation, the number of Asian students with very poor English was insane. I believe that some of them had other people sit their language requirement exams because they could barely string two words together.
To remove these rules is insane. It’s one thing to get into the U.K. without speaking but at the very least, you should be penalised very heavily if your reports and coursework is unreadable
Edit: also just to add, most if not all U.K. universities offer free English language courses to help you strengthen your speaking and writing. There’s no reason to not speak or write legibly
We are already knee deep in the consequences of participation prizes and moves away from meritocracy.
I don’t understand because I am not a native English speaker. My mother language rarely teach grammar and we do not vet students’ grammar. lol
https://youtube.com/shorts/K61noHT82n0?si=F2qgHBetZRe6-D3S
The only thing worse than the daily mail is quoting the daily mail.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soft_bigotry_of_low_expectations
Ah yes, because removing the requirement to read, write and speak English has been working _fantastically_ for the NHS, let’s just roll it out everywhere!
Is there a financial incentive to do this? If so, from where? That’s a huge problem.
Will be interesting when all of our educational establishments dive in global excellence rankings.
University standards in general are dropping. I know quite a few academics and they all have similar examples of school leaders and other senior staff pushing changes to keep students happy.
I’ve talked to quite a few who are essentially being blocked from failing students. They’ve been told that any attempt at referencing is fine, it doesn’t matter if they don’t even try to use the correct scheme. I’ve also seen papers that were around 30-40% of the word count get a passing grade due to internal guidance.
These aren’t just changes to be inclusive or to make it easier for certain groups, universities have just become so reliant on students that they seem to be afraid of getting bad ratings or people dropping out mid-course.
I’m dyslexic, and I lost so many marks for grammar and spelling in non English subjects. I found it profoundly unfair to have grammar in every subject.
I ended up just migrating to subjects with less, such as Physics, Maths and Chemistry. I liked Biology but couldn’t do it due to the writing.
I totally support marking students on their knowledge of the subject rather than their grammar.
Yes, I know grammer is important to get the correct meaning. But if you know what they mean and spell a word wrong, does it really matter?
For anyone that may seem surprised about this. It’s worth remembering that universities are not places of high education. They are places of minimum competency. They have been as such for quite some time now. This is just formalising it.
Additionally informal, grammatical errors, and the ilk can be academically acceptable depending on the research. Ethnography, interviews, and similar allow for informal language used to be transcribed. However the rest of the essay ought to be spell checked and grammar checked.
I did a profession-related master’s at a crap, post-92 uni 15 years ago… and even then, there were a number of students who frankly were unable to speak a meaningful amount of English. They all, without exception, got a degree to take back to China*.
The business model depends on their fees. The education was broadly functional and some students undoubtedly learned, especially the ones who’d joined straight from their first degree, but it was not a stimulating environment.
*EDIT: Not only China, but also Pakistan, Thailand and (oddly) Vietnam. Students from India, Kenya and Nigeria generally possessed good English.
But.. it’s racist to hold minorities to lower standards. And if that is institutionalised, it materially disadvantages them, not just because their education is worse, but because it is seen to be worse.
Oh, you’re from King’s College? Didn’t they devalue this degree you’re banding about? Back in my day, when it was majority white like Oxford, it was harder to get a first.
Classic case of trying to be seen to do something about disparities by moving the deck chairs around, when what needs to be done is relieving childhood poverty—the evidence is clear that class and not colour is the defining factor in educational attainment.