It was never going to be a thing anyway; once you prove it can be done at least partially, there was no need for it to ever come back.
It certainly won’t come back now that people need to conserve their fuel.
Are there people who take the piss? Absolutely. But effective managerial control sorts that out. There’s no need to push a whole organisation back just because management can’t see who the pisstakers are.
Vodka-Knot on
Not only will it work, it has worked.
The absolute disconnect with the average person has never been clearer than in the last few weeks
„People may be forced to WFH permanently if the fuel prices get higher“ No, they won’t. They’ll struggle and suffer and you’ll do nothing about it because the work is „essential“ and „sensitive“ according to „managers“ that clearly don’t have memories that span longer than 2 years.
The people in charge just say what they think will be popular with no regard for what they’re actually saying.
We all worked from home in tech, it worked, it worked well and everyone was happy. Suddenly, it couldn’t work anymore simply „because that’s why“ and we all got marched in (First as 1 day a week, then 2, 3 and now, for many big tech companies such as TikTok, it’s full time office attendance again)
To even begin the point of 85% of your work being with colleagues in other countries via video call is beyond exhausting. Often you sit in the office, on your laptop you brought from your house to the office, to call someone who did the same thing. It’s beyond ridiculous.
They drip fed it, masquerading as some form of „team culture improvement initiative“.
People who moved, had kids, sick loved ones, all ignored and told „Your role is essential to be in the office full time“
No need to write an article about it, we’ve lived it the last 3 years and it’s disgusting.
Inevitable-Virus-239 on
There needs to be legislation with teeth for this to work, otherwise companies will drag everyone back. And no messing around with 2 or 3 days in office. This is virtually a massive boon to three different problems handed to us at once; reduces congestion and public transport over subscription in Dublin, helps reduce demand for rental and permanent accommodation in Dublin and brings dublin salaries out into regional towns and villages who need the money.
New-Stick-8764 on
Whenever I see conversations on this they really miss the point. It’s not a power play, it’s a reflection of the fact that business are paying rent for office space and seeing it empty makes them feel they are wasting money. They simply don’t want to bite the bullet and reduce their office space, or they can’t.
BombadilGuy on
It’ll be a sound idea after all once petrol hits 3-4 a litre.
UnemploydDeveloper on
This is about 4 years too late.
oddun on
Slow news day.
This is an advert for RTE podcasts. And the opinion of one guy lmao.
DiscountMiserable665 on
Commercial property recession successfully averted by lobbying the dail for weak as water legislation.
Boosting à companies asset book (especially MNCs) by maintaining the building on said asset book.
The same boards making these calls are also in property investment schemes, boosting the already disparate housing and rental costs which make their way from wages paid back in to their own pockets.
Commercial space doesn’t get refurbed in to residential, the potential to kill two birds with one stone is abandoned for quick money.
Easily the worst decision of the last 6 years for all involved except about 800 people on the island.
PintmanConnolly on
Thank goodness we have our robust and militant trade unions and our revolutionary Workers‘ Republic, that James Connolly sacrificed his life for, to protect our workers‘ rights.
AluminiumCrackers on
When I was being pushed back to work I was told that I was needed to help deal with all the calls to the office and the people needing assistance in the office. I think the phone rang twice the first day I was back. I don’t know if they were lying or just didn’t understand that the vast majority of the work was dealt with through emails. Now they are wondering why the workload is so high and 40% of the previous staff has left the office.
nefariousnun on
I’m getting forced back into the office 2 days a week soon. We were once a month for 6 years with continual commentary that we were out performing and highly productive yet we’re now going to be forced into a cramped office that doesn’t have enough seats so we can be “more effective”. The cost of commuting is essentially a pay cut, because there isn’t enough seats teams are locked into set days with no flexibility, and 80% of my day is on the phone to people that are not even in the country. So for absolutely zero benefit I’m now going from my house to the office to do the exact same thing, be on ms teams meetings, except now I will struggle to hear. Absolutely Braindead, can only assume it’s a way to force some of us to leave without paying redundancy.
FIGHTorRIDEANYMAN on
Funny how the media has changed its tune around this.
I remember the hit pieces by various outlets claiming how everyone was gagging to get back into office and in particular a piece on the 9 news where the cherry picked employees from a cherry picked company and toed the line like good little office gemlins.
No wonder I hardly read/watch the news anymore. Propaganda machine.
To be clear I’m not against being in an office but I am violently against not giving people th choice.
RedLemon66 on
Currently one day a week in the office since 2020. There are plans to renovate the office this year and they mentioned they’re reviewing the WFH policy.
I can just see them trying to get us in more once the refurb is done so we can ‚enjoy‘ this ‚collaborative‘ space 🫠
hoppo1982 on
„An expert has stated the fucking obvious“
GDow1981 on
Hey some people love work from home (wfh) and it suits them.
I don’t but that’s my personal situation.
It’s not available to a vast number of folks and tbh resentment at that based on a working class service providers versus middle class professionals is kind of pathetic as the type of job is simply different. It’s not an options for Nurses etc.
I also think it’s a classic example of wishful thinking from those that wanted to wfh but now can’t that a government would mandate people to wfh when there isn’t a public health emergency because frankly that would “suit” them. Some people have been trying to wish this into existence, in a kind of post-COVID trauma reaction wishing for return of the good bits of an overall horrific period.
I get shortages and rationing of fuel etc might conceivably happen.
A government is more far more likely than stoping commuting rather to try to enforce and police long distance travel by simply restricting volume or frequency of purchase of fuel. Price increases might do that anyway. I understand this already hurts those doing longer commutes.
The internet is generally becoming a series of echo chambers people can go to ignore unpleasant reality and hear only things they like or wish to happen. This seems like one of them.
ItsTyrrellsAlt on
Is there any study on how much is saved by not driving vs the increased electricity/heating by people staying at home?
RickGrimes30 on
Why does this keep coming up like companies haven’t done it for years alrrady.. I’ve been 5 days in office since 2022, I swapped to a hybrid position in October of last year only for them to announce it would be removed after new years so back to five days.
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It was never going to be a thing anyway; once you prove it can be done at least partially, there was no need for it to ever come back.
It certainly won’t come back now that people need to conserve their fuel.
Are there people who take the piss? Absolutely. But effective managerial control sorts that out. There’s no need to push a whole organisation back just because management can’t see who the pisstakers are.
Not only will it work, it has worked.
The absolute disconnect with the average person has never been clearer than in the last few weeks
„People may be forced to WFH permanently if the fuel prices get higher“ No, they won’t. They’ll struggle and suffer and you’ll do nothing about it because the work is „essential“ and „sensitive“ according to „managers“ that clearly don’t have memories that span longer than 2 years.
The people in charge just say what they think will be popular with no regard for what they’re actually saying.
We all worked from home in tech, it worked, it worked well and everyone was happy. Suddenly, it couldn’t work anymore simply „because that’s why“ and we all got marched in (First as 1 day a week, then 2, 3 and now, for many big tech companies such as TikTok, it’s full time office attendance again)
To even begin the point of 85% of your work being with colleagues in other countries via video call is beyond exhausting. Often you sit in the office, on your laptop you brought from your house to the office, to call someone who did the same thing. It’s beyond ridiculous.
They drip fed it, masquerading as some form of „team culture improvement initiative“.
People who moved, had kids, sick loved ones, all ignored and told „Your role is essential to be in the office full time“
No need to write an article about it, we’ve lived it the last 3 years and it’s disgusting.
There needs to be legislation with teeth for this to work, otherwise companies will drag everyone back. And no messing around with 2 or 3 days in office. This is virtually a massive boon to three different problems handed to us at once; reduces congestion and public transport over subscription in Dublin, helps reduce demand for rental and permanent accommodation in Dublin and brings dublin salaries out into regional towns and villages who need the money.
Whenever I see conversations on this they really miss the point. It’s not a power play, it’s a reflection of the fact that business are paying rent for office space and seeing it empty makes them feel they are wasting money. They simply don’t want to bite the bullet and reduce their office space, or they can’t.
It’ll be a sound idea after all once petrol hits 3-4 a litre.
This is about 4 years too late.
Slow news day.
This is an advert for RTE podcasts. And the opinion of one guy lmao.
Commercial property recession successfully averted by lobbying the dail for weak as water legislation.
Boosting à companies asset book (especially MNCs) by maintaining the building on said asset book.
The same boards making these calls are also in property investment schemes, boosting the already disparate housing and rental costs which make their way from wages paid back in to their own pockets.
Commercial space doesn’t get refurbed in to residential, the potential to kill two birds with one stone is abandoned for quick money.
Easily the worst decision of the last 6 years for all involved except about 800 people on the island.
Thank goodness we have our robust and militant trade unions and our revolutionary Workers‘ Republic, that James Connolly sacrificed his life for, to protect our workers‘ rights.
When I was being pushed back to work I was told that I was needed to help deal with all the calls to the office and the people needing assistance in the office. I think the phone rang twice the first day I was back. I don’t know if they were lying or just didn’t understand that the vast majority of the work was dealt with through emails. Now they are wondering why the workload is so high and 40% of the previous staff has left the office.
I’m getting forced back into the office 2 days a week soon. We were once a month for 6 years with continual commentary that we were out performing and highly productive yet we’re now going to be forced into a cramped office that doesn’t have enough seats so we can be “more effective”. The cost of commuting is essentially a pay cut, because there isn’t enough seats teams are locked into set days with no flexibility, and 80% of my day is on the phone to people that are not even in the country. So for absolutely zero benefit I’m now going from my house to the office to do the exact same thing, be on ms teams meetings, except now I will struggle to hear. Absolutely Braindead, can only assume it’s a way to force some of us to leave without paying redundancy.
Funny how the media has changed its tune around this.
I remember the hit pieces by various outlets claiming how everyone was gagging to get back into office and in particular a piece on the 9 news where the cherry picked employees from a cherry picked company and toed the line like good little office gemlins.
No wonder I hardly read/watch the news anymore. Propaganda machine.
To be clear I’m not against being in an office but I am violently against not giving people th choice.
Currently one day a week in the office since 2020. There are plans to renovate the office this year and they mentioned they’re reviewing the WFH policy.
I can just see them trying to get us in more once the refurb is done so we can ‚enjoy‘ this ‚collaborative‘ space 🫠
„An expert has stated the fucking obvious“
Hey some people love work from home (wfh) and it suits them.
I don’t but that’s my personal situation.
It’s not available to a vast number of folks and tbh resentment at that based on a working class service providers versus middle class professionals is kind of pathetic as the type of job is simply different. It’s not an options for Nurses etc.
I also think it’s a classic example of wishful thinking from those that wanted to wfh but now can’t that a government would mandate people to wfh when there isn’t a public health emergency because frankly that would “suit” them. Some people have been trying to wish this into existence, in a kind of post-COVID trauma reaction wishing for return of the good bits of an overall horrific period.
I get shortages and rationing of fuel etc might conceivably happen.
A government is more far more likely than stoping commuting rather to try to enforce and police long distance travel by simply restricting volume or frequency of purchase of fuel. Price increases might do that anyway. I understand this already hurts those doing longer commutes.
The internet is generally becoming a series of echo chambers people can go to ignore unpleasant reality and hear only things they like or wish to happen. This seems like one of them.
Is there any study on how much is saved by not driving vs the increased electricity/heating by people staying at home?
Why does this keep coming up like companies haven’t done it for years alrrady.. I’ve been 5 days in office since 2022, I swapped to a hybrid position in October of last year only for them to announce it would be removed after new years so back to five days.