* Canada is experiencing a significant brain drain, exporting its high-earning and highly educated Canadian professionals, particularly to the United States.
* This trend is exacerbated by factors such as remote work normalization, high marginal tax rates, and declining faith in government effectiveness.
* Data shows a substantial increase in emigration, especially among young professionals in natural sciences, finance, and graduate students.
* The U.S. attracts Canadian talent with larger markets, deeper capital pools, and higher wages.
* This exodus of skilled workers and entrepreneurs poses a threat to Canada’s productivity, innovation capacity, and future tax revenues, creating a fiscal squeeze and highlighting the need for policy adjustments.
YouProfessional3196 on
Another big fail courtesy of the Liberal Party, better elect them for a 5th term.
snipingsmurf on
yes it’s quite simple: lower taxes.
lolwut778 on
Amazing that Canada went from a top runner in G7 to near bottom within a span of 15 years.
bo-n-es on
I love this country, but I’m looking at options.
Arcwind84 on
If I could I would. This country’s politics are fucked, the weather sucks and job market is dead. I’m stuck here because of family and obligations. But man, a one way ticket elsewhere looks mighty tempting.
Would be easy, since I don’t even work for a Canadian company.
InsideApex on
Remember that [thehub.ca](http://thehub.ca) is not a neutral or even balanced source. It is a conservative publication that has a clear agenda to undermine confidence in the left or center-left governments and engender support for right-wing policies and parties. This article is a good case in point. It seems compelling on the surface, but a closer look reveals that the data are limited and ‚opaque‘ (in the article’s own words) and numerous conclusions depend heavily upon an Economist article that covers Western countries (i.e. not just Canada). It seems that the situation demands further investigation, but the degree of alarm this article tries to whip is premature and counter-productive.
thedrivingcat on
if you look at the numbers adjusted for population it seems a little less alarmist as many comments here are making it out to be
2024 saw 65k people leave from 41.5 million = 156.5 per 100,000
2014 saw 55k people leave from 35.5 million = 154.75 per 100,000
2004 saw 54k leave from 31.9 million = 168.88 per 100,000
1994 saw 52k leave from 29 million = 179.32 per 100,000
1984 saw 32k leave from 25.6 million = 124.97 per 100,000
1974 saw 35k leave from 22,8 million = 153.45 per 100,000
sensfan4tic on
Not shocked. I probably would never leave but at the same time the current state of life in canada is not sustainable for longterm.
Despite the current sentiments towards the United States, businesses here are leaving for better markets, less red tape and lower taxes and faster growth. Like it or not the US invests much more into its economy and is much better for business growth and is much more attractive for young people. Their tech sector is better, Dr’s and nurses have a chance to make more money with less of the shitshow that is our current medical system in Canada.
Part of its the sheer size of the US and how diverse their economy is compared to ours. Part of its the fact the govt for decades but especially the last decade have created more red tape and spent way more then we can afford to grow an economy. I love this country but in every sense it shoots itself in the foot to try an appease every single group instead of build better for everyone.
We can have oil pipelines but certain indigenous groups and environmentalists dont want it. We have equalization payments and the west hates that. We could have less poltical drama but theres key provinces that might not get people elected who might not jump on board. Not saying these problems are exclusive to Canada but Canada has intense issues to fix.
Our streets are flooded with illegal drugs and a population with extreme levels of immigration of people who is anyone instead of the best and brightest. We used to have one of the best immigration systems to well if ya wanna be here who are we to say no? I love Canada and wouldnt leave but we keep doing the same things over and over again and think this time we will see true change.
salt989 on
Yah quite a few friends of mine are looking into making the move, they’re in good careers here and in mid 30s, just can’t seem to get ahead much and mostly topped out on income scale… look across the border and most salaries for them are 1.5x higher with better benefits package, lower or similar cost of living, lower tax burden.
Doing the math they could retire 10-15 years earlier if they made the move.
MiserableFloor9906 on
Unaffordable housing, cost of living and overall collapse are also hitting the US and the UK really hard. Fuck Trudeau had a far reach.
WiseDebt7345 on
We are already on our way out. Canada has been good to us until the last gew years, and it’s looking bleak. Thank God we have passports for an EU country. We’ll find jobs in our fields there and be able to afford a lot more. We’re gonna be hanging up our Canada hats and never coming back. We’re going to work there and retire there.
The people voting for horrible immigration policies, crumbling heath care, rising violent crime, and unaffordable food and homes in this country can have it. I feel for the people who don’t have the same options we do.
LiteratureOk2428 on
Funny, I made the move to canada for QOL and lower COL. Private insurance was over 7k a month for my plan due to cancer. I paid way more in medical than I paid in taxes in Canada.
asoupconofsoup on
There were over 400+ American doctors and nurses who emigrated to BC in the last year.
I suspect people are moving to nations that reflect their priorities and values. That’s great!
If the US is more in tune with the culture, beliefs and values you support, bon voyage! Others who see Canada as a better fit are moving here in turn. I see no problem:)
BCJay_ on
I hope they’re also renouncing their Canadian citizenship and passports because it’s such a hell hole that they needn’t cling to the safety net.
Suspicious-Answer295 on
Higher wages, lower taxes, cheaper housing, plentiful competition within sectors/fewer oligopolies driving up prices and pushing down quality of services, nicer weather generally… The US is a rough place to be poor or even lower-middle class, but if you’re in the upper % there are a lot of strong positives. Despite what the fear mongering says, its not the dystopian 1984 hell people claim it is.
Canadian-born individuals in the U.S. are more educated than native-born Americans, earn substantially more, and cluster in top income brackets.
High-skilled workers face strong [economic incentives](https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/canada-brain-drain-crisis-10-reasons/) to relocate to the U.S.
When a country invests in education only to lose those it educates at their peak earning years, it forfeits future tax revenues. For countries with aging populations and expanding public sectors, this creates a fiscal squeeze.
But don’t worry about that. Carney’s government will instead import hundreds of thousands of purely educated, poorly trained foreigners from one country. Most of them are going to work minimum wage jobs in fast food, retail, or taxi driving.
konathegreat on
We bumped our population up with unskilled people and traded our upcoming best.
UristBronzebelly on
I quadrupled my income for moving to the States. Canada just isn’t competitive for engineering salaries and it’s really easy for Canadians to emigrate so it’s a no brainer. I want to stay in Canada but the fiscal opportunity cost is literally life altering.
Responsible-Big3304 on
Everyone should always look at their options. Having multiple passports is better than having 1 or none.
cre8ivjay on
So we don’t want people to come here but we’re concerned when they leave?
Maybe the issue is a bit more complex than anyone coming or going and we might want to focus on this a bit more holistically.
But what do I know?
yzerman92 on
Leaving for Australia in august on a work visa. Feel so frustrated with the government it makes my blood boil. Pushing everyone back to office despite the mental health and environmental benefits, flooding the market with cheap TFW labour, record spending every year. Only to get taxed more and more. I love my country and my friends/family but seriously the people who have run this country can F off.
Mindless_Engine_4494 on
I love Canada but if I could have a similar job in another country and pay way less tax I would consider leaving.
This government is taxing us to death and spending like crazy and telling us we should be grateful to them for it.
Top-Lane-Bad on
I saw someone show the breakdown to population and it’s nothing crazy which is true but what they don’t realize is it’s not people that are on temp work permits or other things. These are people 95% of the time that were born and raised in Canada but see no future and so they are leaving using usually a second citizenship they own back to a land where 2 things are true 1) the Canadian currency and their cumulative savings have a huge advantage in said country they are moving to and 2) they can use their education to an advantage giving them an elite high paying job or potentially open their own business.
When Canada doesn’t support the young, the young move to where they will be supported and treated with equity and respect. Here in Canada it’s the retired that are treated like kings and everyone else like peasants.
LeadGeneral on
World’s becoming global. Everyone everywhere is more able to move than ever.
HowlingWolven on
We can, but it’s gonna take time. Canada is an expensive place to live these days and if you haven’t had the best of luck, it can feel l like it’s hard to get ahead.
OutkastAtliens on
Where are people going? Where is a good place to go to in the world ?
cygnusX1and2 on
One of my kids are heading to Asia for work and I’m so disappointed. Happy for the experience they will have but disappointed in Canada and diminishing opportunities for young citizens who just want to start a family and buy a house.
I have other kids who have decent stable jobs but home ownership might only be obtainable after my wife and I kick the bucket and the sale of our assets helps them out.
As for solving this problem; I can’t for one fucking second believe there is any politician in this country capable of doing so but I don’t have any answers either. Win a lottery maybe.
Ok-Dream1505 on
Canadian won’t leave:
– if the unemployment rate isn’t so high
– wages aren’t suppressed for corporations
– rents aren’t so high so politicians can keep pocketing profits from their real estate investments
– if people didn’t had to wait a year to see a specialist or get an operation done
– if people could afford to buy house and save for retirement.
– if people weren’t living pay check to pay check
Frozen_North_99 on
Conrad Black wrote sbout this a lot in the 90s and early 2000s. Didn’t matter, people with an education follow the money and it’s usually in the US.
GenericFatGuy on
The fuck? I thought y’all wanted people to leave?
LemonPress50 on
Looks like “Canada is back” didn’t work out.
imfinetday on
Import people to work for Tim Horton and Uber Eats and then young talented Canadians leave to get paid more and have a better life lol
Even if it’s it’s not in the hundreds of thousands, this is not a good thing for a country.
Outside_Positive_750 on
Money. All my problems could be solved with more money.
Eat the rich.
Newfie-1 on
Get rid of the Liberals problem solved 👍
nightchrome on
I want to move back but it just isn’t economically feasible.
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**In Brief:**
* Canada is experiencing a significant brain drain, exporting its high-earning and highly educated Canadian professionals, particularly to the United States.
* This trend is exacerbated by factors such as remote work normalization, high marginal tax rates, and declining faith in government effectiveness.
* Data shows a substantial increase in emigration, especially among young professionals in natural sciences, finance, and graduate students.
* The U.S. attracts Canadian talent with larger markets, deeper capital pools, and higher wages.
* This exodus of skilled workers and entrepreneurs poses a threat to Canada’s productivity, innovation capacity, and future tax revenues, creating a fiscal squeeze and highlighting the need for policy adjustments.
Another big fail courtesy of the Liberal Party, better elect them for a 5th term.
yes it’s quite simple: lower taxes.
Amazing that Canada went from a top runner in G7 to near bottom within a span of 15 years.
I love this country, but I’m looking at options.
If I could I would. This country’s politics are fucked, the weather sucks and job market is dead. I’m stuck here because of family and obligations. But man, a one way ticket elsewhere looks mighty tempting.
Would be easy, since I don’t even work for a Canadian company.
Remember that [thehub.ca](http://thehub.ca) is not a neutral or even balanced source. It is a conservative publication that has a clear agenda to undermine confidence in the left or center-left governments and engender support for right-wing policies and parties. This article is a good case in point. It seems compelling on the surface, but a closer look reveals that the data are limited and ‚opaque‘ (in the article’s own words) and numerous conclusions depend heavily upon an Economist article that covers Western countries (i.e. not just Canada). It seems that the situation demands further investigation, but the degree of alarm this article tries to whip is premature and counter-productive.
if you look at the numbers adjusted for population it seems a little less alarmist as many comments here are making it out to be
2024 saw 65k people leave from 41.5 million = 156.5 per 100,000
2014 saw 55k people leave from 35.5 million = 154.75 per 100,000
2004 saw 54k leave from 31.9 million = 168.88 per 100,000
1994 saw 52k leave from 29 million = 179.32 per 100,000
1984 saw 32k leave from 25.6 million = 124.97 per 100,000
1974 saw 35k leave from 22,8 million = 153.45 per 100,000
Not shocked. I probably would never leave but at the same time the current state of life in canada is not sustainable for longterm.
Despite the current sentiments towards the United States, businesses here are leaving for better markets, less red tape and lower taxes and faster growth. Like it or not the US invests much more into its economy and is much better for business growth and is much more attractive for young people. Their tech sector is better, Dr’s and nurses have a chance to make more money with less of the shitshow that is our current medical system in Canada.
Part of its the sheer size of the US and how diverse their economy is compared to ours. Part of its the fact the govt for decades but especially the last decade have created more red tape and spent way more then we can afford to grow an economy. I love this country but in every sense it shoots itself in the foot to try an appease every single group instead of build better for everyone.
We can have oil pipelines but certain indigenous groups and environmentalists dont want it. We have equalization payments and the west hates that. We could have less poltical drama but theres key provinces that might not get people elected who might not jump on board. Not saying these problems are exclusive to Canada but Canada has intense issues to fix.
Our streets are flooded with illegal drugs and a population with extreme levels of immigration of people who is anyone instead of the best and brightest. We used to have one of the best immigration systems to well if ya wanna be here who are we to say no? I love Canada and wouldnt leave but we keep doing the same things over and over again and think this time we will see true change.
Yah quite a few friends of mine are looking into making the move, they’re in good careers here and in mid 30s, just can’t seem to get ahead much and mostly topped out on income scale… look across the border and most salaries for them are 1.5x higher with better benefits package, lower or similar cost of living, lower tax burden.
Doing the math they could retire 10-15 years earlier if they made the move.
Unaffordable housing, cost of living and overall collapse are also hitting the US and the UK really hard. Fuck Trudeau had a far reach.
We are already on our way out. Canada has been good to us until the last gew years, and it’s looking bleak. Thank God we have passports for an EU country. We’ll find jobs in our fields there and be able to afford a lot more. We’re gonna be hanging up our Canada hats and never coming back. We’re going to work there and retire there.
The people voting for horrible immigration policies, crumbling heath care, rising violent crime, and unaffordable food and homes in this country can have it. I feel for the people who don’t have the same options we do.
Funny, I made the move to canada for QOL and lower COL. Private insurance was over 7k a month for my plan due to cancer. I paid way more in medical than I paid in taxes in Canada.
There were over 400+ American doctors and nurses who emigrated to BC in the last year.
I suspect people are moving to nations that reflect their priorities and values. That’s great!
If the US is more in tune with the culture, beliefs and values you support, bon voyage! Others who see Canada as a better fit are moving here in turn. I see no problem:)
I hope they’re also renouncing their Canadian citizenship and passports because it’s such a hell hole that they needn’t cling to the safety net.
Higher wages, lower taxes, cheaper housing, plentiful competition within sectors/fewer oligopolies driving up prices and pushing down quality of services, nicer weather generally… The US is a rough place to be poor or even lower-middle class, but if you’re in the upper % there are a lot of strong positives. Despite what the fear mongering says, its not the dystopian 1984 hell people claim it is.
Canada is exporting its highest earners to the United States.
Canadian emigrants are predominantly young professionals—67 percent are ages 20 to 44.
A recent “[portrait of emigration](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-627-m/11-627-m2026013-eng.htm)” reveals that close to 70 percent of Canadian emigrants had at least a university degree, substantially higher than the working age population (roughly [33 percent](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221130/dq221130a-eng.htm)).
Canadian-born individuals in the U.S. are more educated than native-born Americans, earn substantially more, and cluster in top income brackets.
High-skilled workers face strong [economic incentives](https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/canada-brain-drain-crisis-10-reasons/) to relocate to the U.S.
When a country invests in education only to lose those it educates at their peak earning years, it forfeits future tax revenues. For countries with aging populations and expanding public sectors, this creates a fiscal squeeze.
But don’t worry about that. Carney’s government will instead import hundreds of thousands of purely educated, poorly trained foreigners from one country. Most of them are going to work minimum wage jobs in fast food, retail, or taxi driving.
We bumped our population up with unskilled people and traded our upcoming best.
I quadrupled my income for moving to the States. Canada just isn’t competitive for engineering salaries and it’s really easy for Canadians to emigrate so it’s a no brainer. I want to stay in Canada but the fiscal opportunity cost is literally life altering.
Everyone should always look at their options. Having multiple passports is better than having 1 or none.
So we don’t want people to come here but we’re concerned when they leave?
Maybe the issue is a bit more complex than anyone coming or going and we might want to focus on this a bit more holistically.
But what do I know?
Leaving for Australia in august on a work visa. Feel so frustrated with the government it makes my blood boil. Pushing everyone back to office despite the mental health and environmental benefits, flooding the market with cheap TFW labour, record spending every year. Only to get taxed more and more. I love my country and my friends/family but seriously the people who have run this country can F off.
I love Canada but if I could have a similar job in another country and pay way less tax I would consider leaving.
This government is taxing us to death and spending like crazy and telling us we should be grateful to them for it.
I saw someone show the breakdown to population and it’s nothing crazy which is true but what they don’t realize is it’s not people that are on temp work permits or other things. These are people 95% of the time that were born and raised in Canada but see no future and so they are leaving using usually a second citizenship they own back to a land where 2 things are true 1) the Canadian currency and their cumulative savings have a huge advantage in said country they are moving to and 2) they can use their education to an advantage giving them an elite high paying job or potentially open their own business.
When Canada doesn’t support the young, the young move to where they will be supported and treated with equity and respect. Here in Canada it’s the retired that are treated like kings and everyone else like peasants.
World’s becoming global. Everyone everywhere is more able to move than ever.
We can, but it’s gonna take time. Canada is an expensive place to live these days and if you haven’t had the best of luck, it can feel l like it’s hard to get ahead.
Where are people going? Where is a good place to go to in the world ?
One of my kids are heading to Asia for work and I’m so disappointed. Happy for the experience they will have but disappointed in Canada and diminishing opportunities for young citizens who just want to start a family and buy a house.
I have other kids who have decent stable jobs but home ownership might only be obtainable after my wife and I kick the bucket and the sale of our assets helps them out.
As for solving this problem; I can’t for one fucking second believe there is any politician in this country capable of doing so but I don’t have any answers either. Win a lottery maybe.
Canadian won’t leave:
– if the unemployment rate isn’t so high
– wages aren’t suppressed for corporations
– rents aren’t so high so politicians can keep pocketing profits from their real estate investments
– if people didn’t had to wait a year to see a specialist or get an operation done
– if people could afford to buy house and save for retirement.
– if people weren’t living pay check to pay check
Conrad Black wrote sbout this a lot in the 90s and early 2000s. Didn’t matter, people with an education follow the money and it’s usually in the US.
The fuck? I thought y’all wanted people to leave?
Looks like “Canada is back” didn’t work out.
Import people to work for Tim Horton and Uber Eats and then young talented Canadians leave to get paid more and have a better life lol
Even if it’s it’s not in the hundreds of thousands, this is not a good thing for a country.
Money. All my problems could be solved with more money.
Eat the rich.
Get rid of the Liberals problem solved 👍
I want to move back but it just isn’t economically feasible.