Much easier to underpay fresh immigrants and then rinse and repeat when they start getting all uppity than your own country’s workers who know their (rapidly eroding) rights.
anonskeptic5 on
Cause America First, right?
Direlion on
Fire Americans to hire foreigners. That’s the American way!
livingwellish on
Using H-1B to fill American jobs laid off is illegal. Visa workers can’t displace American workers. Justification of need for foreign workers required such as work skill not available.
bhenghisfudge on
You know, I’m starting to think that the Ellison’s might be the bad guys..
ionetic on
AI = actually India
MasterLJ on
Congress. Do something. Please.
This is not the intent nor the design of the H1-B system. Nor is it a critique of immigration. We need immigration. The H1-B program is a reasonable program when intent is clear. This is NOT reasonable use.
You cannot simultaneously claim that there are not enough domestic workers and lay off domestic workers.
ThatRx8Kid on
Of course they did
turb0_encapsulator on
these are the people who put Trump in office.
beachtrader on
Should be a law that if you had layoffs in the last three years you are ineligible for any H-1B sponsorships.
ViolettaQueso on
Wow!!!! Bet Trump threw in the fees as part of the “deal”.
Funny, it sounds like it’ll bring in more immigrants than what the $1T murderous debacle that is his deportation and incarceration immigration policy has removed.
Could it be Trump isn’t concerned with anything but his own asset numbers at our expense?
CobaltFermi on
The tone of this article is misleading. It tries to imply that Oracle is firing while also applying for work visas. It’s highly likely, given the $100,000 H-1B fee for hiring overseas workers, that the vast majority of those visas were for non citizens who work for Oracle in the US. And it’s likely that those same non citizen employees are getting laid off. We can’t say for sure either way. Also, headcount reduction decisions like these are communicated abruptly so it’s not like the company was secretly scheming for this to happen.
ManBunH8er on
##Congress needs to step in!
spozzy on
The article title is sensationalist. The Visa applications were mostly in 2025 – before the mass layoff. There is no information about how many of those jobs were also laid off recently. There is also no information about which roles were filled and which roles were released from which teams. I’m all for holding up a pitchfork when people do unethical things but the title of the article seems to imply that the applications were filed after the layoffs which is just shitty journalism.
MonsieurKnife on
That’s a clear violation of H1-B by the way, but since they won’t even go after pedos they sure won’t go after that
htffgt_js on
It is either this, or the jobs get offshored. Not sure which one is worse. Crazy times.
quickspin_go on
The article is quite misleading. Obviously a rage/click bait. It makes a viewer think that oracle doing a mass layoff in the same time using H1B program to replace those who were laid off.
hello_everyone_555 on
12k were laid off by Oracle in India, in the recent round. Doesn’t make sense.
The loyalty of a billionaire on display everyone. Billionaires buy the media, buy the government and now have complete control of the military. Welcome to the end.
OkFineIllUseTheApp on
One
Rancid
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
Rollingstone6648 on
Bring back the guillotine!
lavapig_love on
Fuck you Oracle.
nono3722 on
funny they said it was due to AI, are low wage workers AI now? /s
munoodle on
Any company who conducts layoffs should be precluded from international hiring for domestic based roles for a minimum of 5 years
mog44net on
Fuck companies like this
zer04ll on
yeah doesnt work that way, deadline was 18th of last month, my company won a spot and we will be giving it to a engineer that graduated in the US
tanbyte on
Offshoring or hiring outside after firing American workers should be illegal & penalized heavily. Ideally, no more than 5% of the company hiring should be outside
Ok_Pollution_7988 on
AI really stands for „actually Indians“
No-Collar7499 on
Replaced by AI: Actually Indian
Alan_Reddit_M on
Engineers are being replaced by AI (Actually Indians)
MarcinTheMartian on
My manager (Software) told me they pay people abroad $35,000-50,000… for principal level engineers. No wonder everything is getting offshored.
dervu on
Actually Indians?
FlyingBike on
I thought they weren’t allowed to apply for visa hires within 6 months of layoffs. Am I reading this wrong or misunderstanding something
randomness7345 on
End all H-1Bs already
argama87 on
Wow, Oracle continues to find new ways to be a giant POS.
asfsdgwe35r3asfdas23 on
What I don’t understand is why would you fill H-1B Visas and pay those people US salaries instead of just opening an office in Poland/Spain where you can get 5 engineers for the price of 1 H-1B salary.
jrblockquote on
Congrats we’re back in the 2000’s again.
blackmobius on
Oh look, more people using the H1b visa system to sidestep labor laws and fair pay. Shocking, I know!
__F1refly__ on
FUUUUCKK ORACLE
FreshLiterature on
We should probably do everything we can to make noise about this.
peepee2tiny on
They just fired all the people who had lots of unvested stock options.
They still need the labour just wanted to get rid of the liability of paying everyone for their decades of service.
„Thanks for sticking with us through the ups and downs, we’re big now so we don’t need you anymore“
Classic American capitalism.
Go ‚Merica.
What a joke.
NerdDaniel on
Assholes. This should be illegal.
Oracle has 30,000+ people to contact for potential hires.
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Isn’t that the Epstein visa?
Much easier to underpay fresh immigrants and then rinse and repeat when they start getting all uppity than your own country’s workers who know their (rapidly eroding) rights.
Cause America First, right?
Fire Americans to hire foreigners. That’s the American way!
Using H-1B to fill American jobs laid off is illegal. Visa workers can’t displace American workers. Justification of need for foreign workers required such as work skill not available.
You know, I’m starting to think that the Ellison’s might be the bad guys..
AI = actually India
Congress. Do something. Please.
This is not the intent nor the design of the H1-B system. Nor is it a critique of immigration. We need immigration. The H1-B program is a reasonable program when intent is clear. This is NOT reasonable use.
You cannot simultaneously claim that there are not enough domestic workers and lay off domestic workers.
Of course they did
these are the people who put Trump in office.
Should be a law that if you had layoffs in the last three years you are ineligible for any H-1B sponsorships.
Wow!!!! Bet Trump threw in the fees as part of the “deal”.
Funny, it sounds like it’ll bring in more immigrants than what the $1T murderous debacle that is his deportation and incarceration immigration policy has removed.
Could it be Trump isn’t concerned with anything but his own asset numbers at our expense?
The tone of this article is misleading. It tries to imply that Oracle is firing while also applying for work visas. It’s highly likely, given the $100,000 H-1B fee for hiring overseas workers, that the vast majority of those visas were for non citizens who work for Oracle in the US. And it’s likely that those same non citizen employees are getting laid off. We can’t say for sure either way. Also, headcount reduction decisions like these are communicated abruptly so it’s not like the company was secretly scheming for this to happen.
##Congress needs to step in!
The article title is sensationalist. The Visa applications were mostly in 2025 – before the mass layoff. There is no information about how many of those jobs were also laid off recently. There is also no information about which roles were filled and which roles were released from which teams. I’m all for holding up a pitchfork when people do unethical things but the title of the article seems to imply that the applications were filed after the layoffs which is just shitty journalism.
That’s a clear violation of H1-B by the way, but since they won’t even go after pedos they sure won’t go after that
It is either this, or the jobs get offshored. Not sure which one is worse. Crazy times.
The article is quite misleading. Obviously a rage/click bait. It makes a viewer think that oracle doing a mass layoff in the same time using H1B program to replace those who were laid off.
12k were laid off by Oracle in India, in the recent round. Doesn’t make sense.
Oracle lays off around 12,000 employees in India How this marks a wider pivot to AI https://share.google/XOnF9jbP5lcO3XtOX
The loyalty of a billionaire on display everyone. Billionaires buy the media, buy the government and now have complete control of the military. Welcome to the end.
One
Rancid
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
Bring back the guillotine!
Fuck you Oracle.
funny they said it was due to AI, are low wage workers AI now? /s
Any company who conducts layoffs should be precluded from international hiring for domestic based roles for a minimum of 5 years
Fuck companies like this
yeah doesnt work that way, deadline was 18th of last month, my company won a spot and we will be giving it to a engineer that graduated in the US
Offshoring or hiring outside after firing American workers should be illegal & penalized heavily. Ideally, no more than 5% of the company hiring should be outside
AI really stands for „actually Indians“
Replaced by AI: Actually Indian
Engineers are being replaced by AI (Actually Indians)
My manager (Software) told me they pay people abroad $35,000-50,000… for principal level engineers. No wonder everything is getting offshored.
Actually Indians?
I thought they weren’t allowed to apply for visa hires within 6 months of layoffs. Am I reading this wrong or misunderstanding something
End all H-1Bs already
Wow, Oracle continues to find new ways to be a giant POS.
What I don’t understand is why would you fill H-1B Visas and pay those people US salaries instead of just opening an office in Poland/Spain where you can get 5 engineers for the price of 1 H-1B salary.
Congrats we’re back in the 2000’s again.
Oh look, more people using the H1b visa system to sidestep labor laws and fair pay. Shocking, I know!
FUUUUCKK ORACLE
We should probably do everything we can to make noise about this.
They just fired all the people who had lots of unvested stock options.
They still need the labour just wanted to get rid of the liability of paying everyone for their decades of service.
„Thanks for sticking with us through the ups and downs, we’re big now so we don’t need you anymore“
Classic American capitalism.
Go ‚Merica.
What a joke.
Assholes. This should be illegal.
Oracle has 30,000+ people to contact for potential hires.