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    Colorados neues Radarkamerasystem macht Waze nahezu nutzlos

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    1. falilth on

      Only does it if your average speed is 10 mph over? Guess ill only average 9 over then… darn

    2. chronichyjinx on

      The Premier of Ontario just made all the speed cameras illegal. We had them for about 3-4 years before he did this. Still have the red light cameras.

    3. _Lucille_ on

      In Ontario Canada there was a war against speed cameras after some were set up around school zones, and the province ended up banning municipal speed cameras.

      Always made me scratch my head: maybe learn how to drive properly and not decide upon your own arbitrary speed?

    4. Scoobydoomed on

      Waze can still be used as a naviation app, which is it’s intended purpose no? How does this make it useless?

    5. verdantAlias on

      This is just average speed cameras.

      We’ve had them in Europe for years.
      They’re a pain in the ass, but they work, so they keep getting used more and more.

    6. z3r0w0rm on

      I just drove through the construction north of Denver on I25 with average speed cameras. Good for this particular application, people shouldn’t be speeding through active construction zones and this should basically stop that.

    7. HeadCryptographer152 on

      Not sure how automated vehicle id speed cameras make Waze nearly useless, also the app doesn’t appear to be mentioned at all in the article.

      What I’m more concerned about is that with automated cameras it’s very easy for this to turn into less about enforcing safety laws and more about bringing in income through ticket revenue, simply by changing the trigger where a ticket gets generated without telling anyone.

    9. freexanarchy on

      don’t you just mark the areas that have the cameras as always having cops or maybe they put in a feature where you report where the cameras are and those area always there in the app when your navigation path goes through intersections or areas that have those cameras? Doesn’t seem that hard to adapt to, if you’re Waze

    10. OGLurker on

      What’s stopping Waze to implement a relatively simple algorithm to show you your average speed between two known speed camera points?

    12. efficiens on

      We need severe restrictions on cameras in public places. All of the old laws were before information could be stored and shared.

    13. Jotacon8 on

      i don’t understand. Waze can tell you where cameras are, sure, but that doesn’t mean Waze bases its route times on you speeding over the speed limit. that’s a you decision, not Waze. Waze is still perfectly usable.

      what the headline should say is “Colorado’s new speed camera system makes drivers who use speed camera notifications on navigation apps have to avoid this stretch of road if they decide they want to speed.”

    15. Small_Dog_8699 on

      When speed trap cameras first came to England people responded by “necklacing” them with old tires doused in gasoline and setting them ablaze.

      This is your driving history interesting [fact](https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1863.asp) of the day and is by no means intended as a call to action.

    16. jorgepolak on

      “The state’s new automated vehicle identification systems (AVIS) use several cameras to calculate your average speed between them, and if it is 10 miles per hour or more over the limit, you get a ticket. No longer will you be able to slow down as you approach a camera and speed back up after passing it, not that you should be speeding on public roads in the first place. “

      How does this make Waze useless? It’s just more cameras on the map.

    18. ChicagoArizonaIowa on

      I hate these “random tax” devices just created to generate revenue. These are not making us any safer.

    20. KingJeff314 on

      I remember in high school calc this was used as an example of the Mean Value Theorem that says for a continuous differentiable function *f* from *a* to *b*, then there exists point *c* such that f'(c)=(f(b)-f(a))/(b-a)

      That is, at some point in your trip you have to go the average speed. Can’t argue with math

    21. Riptide999 on

      Waze is only mentioned in the headline. This „article“ is not at all about Waze.

    22. _QLFON_ on

      What? I use Waze for this in Poland. Shows the entry and exit points, your current and allowed speed and the progress bar as well…

    24. fckcarrots on

      >The system issues a ticket to the vehicle owner, *regardless of who is actually driving* (emphasis mine)

      Perfect example of not properly considering unintended consequences. In FL for example, the driver is responsible for red-light camera violations, not the owner. This is common sense legislation. What Colorado is doing is deincentivizing registered vehicle owners from sharing their vehicle with a friend/family member or as part of a carpool where they are not the driver. This is important because areas with subpar public transportation rely more on carpools and vehicle sharing, which drives individual car ownership up.

      The US should do everything they can to promote communal living and transportation as part of a climate change mitigation plan, and this is another strike against that.

    25. Drob10 on

      I mean Waze is still routing you from A to B as efficiently as it can. Doesn’t seem “nearly useless”.

    26. GarbanzoBenne on

      I remember people predicting this would happen 30 years ago when E-ZPass came onto the scene.

    27. Atrampoline on

      I worked with a former state trooper in NY, and he said that as long as you weren’t going more than 10 over he didn’t care .

    28. Gumb1i on

      Didn’t realize this was going to be averaging speed which is actually smart on their part as it avoids any challenges a traditional radar or laser system tends to get about calibration.

    29. RaNdomMSPPro on

      IIRC studies show that speeding isn’t causing accidents as much as driving too slow. This seems a revenue grab, not a safety push.

    33. sepp650 on

      I don’t understand how it is legal for the government to give a ticket to someone who didn’t commit a crime/traffic violation. Last I heard you are innocent until proven guilty. If they just send a ticket to the owner of the car, they haven’t proven that person’s guilt.

    34. cancerdad on

      Is Waze’s only purpose to help people drive faster than the speed limit? Weird take.

    36. pervyme17 on

      So I would simply do 150 for most of the way, pull over before I hit the next camera, chill, and then start driving again. All good, eh?

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