Trump hält eine umwerfende und undeutliche Iran-Rede, in der er kein Ende des unpopulären Krieges in Sicht ist

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-war-address-completion-ceasefire-b2950498.html

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  1. genericusernamehere6 on

    He really is such a simple man……. just the way he speaks its like listening to a toddler. He has nothing more than a surface level understanding of any subject. If he wasn’t born into wealth he would be that co worker who annoys you but who you also feel kinda sorry for because you know they have undiagnosed learning difficulties.

  2. ConfederacyOfDunces_ on

    No end in sight at all. He has no plan at all.

    And the Strait isn’t opening up for a long time.

    This is about to get so ugly

  3. HaroldGreenBandana on

    I’m beginning to think Trump loves oil more than his own children. 

  4. Reasonable-Bus-2187 on

    Still a distraction from the Epstein files

    And since the Repubs are planning to steal the midterms, he doesn’t care

  5. Slurred speech. Low energy. Eyes barely open. Read directly from a teleprompter and it was short. Tick tock.

  6. UnluckyArea7036 on

    I just do not understand how anyone could listen to that speech and think “yes, that’s my president!”.

  7. Peabody_Tiddlecut on

    He seriously sounded like Orson Welles in that champagne commercial.

  8. I don’t even understand what the point of the address was if there is no new information or updates. He just said the same things he’s been saying anyway.

  9. genericusernamehere6 on

    I still find it hilarious how he insists on always using obama’s middle name like its some kind of insult

  10. deathspanker on

    He said the war objectives are almost met… but since the beginning hasn’t elaborated the objectives. What a loser 💩.

  11. Unique-Egg-461 on

    Brent Crude was actually under $100 right before his address ($99.42 lowest i saw today)

    $105.61 right after. Dont know how much markets are going to enjoy the „well fuck the strait, not my problem anymore“ stance

  12. Trump’s brain is soup. He has proudly surrounded himself with idiots (he admits that btw… he says he doesn’t like surrounding himself with successful people only stupid people so that he looks smart) and now those idiots are running the country.

    Trump is so far up his own ass that no doubt he is feeling like he nailed it tonight. Everyone around him is patting him on the back too.

  13. ChocoboAndroid on

    I loved that before the speech, one outlet was reporting Trump would announce boots in the ground, while another was reporting that he’d announce the war would wind down. And he did neither.. He didn’t say anything clear at all, which has been the problem since day 1.

  14. comingsoonme on

    It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.  

  15. He’s definitely taken another slide recently. Probably not too much longer before he can’t reliably make appearances much at all

  16. StrictlyForTheBirds on

    My favorite* part was at the end when he misread the word „believe“ as „leave“ and then did his lame-ass stunt where he tries to make it seem like he really intended to say BOTH of those two words and the sentence made pretty much no sense whatsoever.

    Our president cannot read.

  17. Theferael_me on

    Oh.

    >Harlan Ullman, a former senior US naval officer, has slammed Trump’s address to the nation, saying it failed to outline a clear strategy for the war on Iran.

    >“The speech was embarrassing, depressing, incoherent and full of contradictions,” Ullman told Al Jazeera, warning that the administration’s focus on targeting Iranian oil infrastructure will likely backfire by driving up global fuel prices.

    >“I think Iran will be looking at that as a victory speech for them,” he said.

  18. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

    Putting aside the fact that the Trump administration’s goals and motivations for this war have wavered from one moment to the next, the „regime“ has only changed in the sense that the already dying Ayatollah was replaced by his more hardline son who we’ve managed to radicalize all the same after killing his entire family and who has deep ties and sway with the IRGC.

    This is all while at least 20% of the Iranian people still support the Islamic Republic.

    Anyone paying attention sees that Trump never had a plan for a drawn out conflict and that he’s currently desperate for a deal and for an offramp.

    By all accounts, Iran was committing to its end of the nuclear deal before Trump ripped it up.

    And this is according to US intelligence on the matter, the International Energy Agency and even *Trump administration officials* at the time.

    Obama’s diplomacy intended to avoid a war and box in Iran’s nuclear program.

    Iran only began building up its nuclear capabilities *after* Trump abandoned the JCPOA out of sheer spite for his predecessor.

    Since then, Trump has bombed Iran *twice* in the middle of negotiations. Which does not bode well for future talks.

    Iran is apprehensive to get involved in serious negotiations. And frankly, I don’t blame them.

    In the past, almost every negotiation with Trump/Netanyahu has resulted in military escalation.

    During his first term, Trump failed to approach a new deal in any earnest or competent manner.

    All reports indicate it was unprofessional and unserious and involved officials who were *way* out of their depth.

    Then the second time around, Trump again approached negotiations from a bad faith position. Nearly every analyst claims it was doomed from the start.

    But Trump still tried desperately to conceal his failures and shift the responsibility on Obama and Iran, which provided him with a false pretext to go to war. His voters, having learned nothing from history, continue to support this illegal war of choice.

    So there’s little room for talks moving forward. The Trump administration has tarnished whatever good will it might have had left.

    FFS, Trump doesn’t even know who he is supposed to be negotiating *with!*

    Also, if Iran ever needed a practical reason to own and operate a nuclear weapon, Trump and Netanyahu just gave them one. I mean, what better assurance than mutually assured destruction?

    And now that Iran has leverage in the form of one-fifth control over the global oil trade and the power to cause world wide market shocks, for that matter, even influence over the American economy and the capacity to create diplomatic tensions between the US and its allies, the Islamic Republic can now make demands it never would have dreamed of making before the war.

    Also, as this war drags on, Iranians will become disenchanted with the idea of the US playing the role of their „liberators.“ Some Iranians even question whether regime change is realistic and whether this war will leave them better off than when it started.

    To make matters worse, for all its faults, its problems and its violent and repressive rule, the Iranian regime could end up unifying a portion of the people against a US/Israel military that’s damn near indiscriminately bombing their schools, hospitals, heritage sites, civilian infrastructure and neighborhoods; displacing millions and killing thousands of noncombatants, some of them children… CHILDREN.

    Reminder that Donald Trump went from insisting that Iran unconditionally surrender, to pushing back deadlines, then to lying about having productive conversations with the Islamic Republic because he had no coherent strategy from the start and now he’s hopelessly searching for that off-ramp.

    At the same time, Iran has held firm. First refusing to submit to Trump’s empty threats on social media, then denying Trump’s claims of constructive peace talks, even calling his remarks „fake news.“

    And don’t forget that earlier in the war, Trump told the Iranian people to „rise up“ and „overtake“ their government so he could wipe his hands clean of the bloody aftermath of a war he started under false pretenses. Iranians didn’t and still don’t have the power to mount any sort of resistance, but Trump was hoping they would march to their deaths because he never had a plan for a protracted war.

    Thanks to the Trump administration’s poor planning, arrogance and incompetence, the US has inadvertently helped Iran secure an advantage in this war by conceding bargaining authority over to the Islamic Republic in matters of their sovereignty, their control over the Strait of Hormuz and even the future of their nuclear weapons program.

    Trump also claims that we „don’t need the Strait of Hormuz,“ and that its closure doesn’t affect us…

    Another erratic claim that demonstrates how he has no f-cking clue what he’s doing.

    Trump is far more concerned with how this war is affecting markets, his declining ratings, and surging oil prices. So he talks out of his ass to protect his fragile ego, to manipulate stock prices, and to sell a narrative that shields him from accountability.

    He also obviously lied about negotiations with Iranian leaders in order to finesse the markets.

    Because just before Trump announced a five day pause on striking Iran’s energy infrastructure, investors bought $1.5 billion in S&P 500 futures and sold $192 million in oil futures. This kind of corruption is unprecedented.

    In the meantime, the International Energy Agency, which just happens to be the global authority on this matter, just described the situation as „the greatest global energy security threat in history.“

    So when Trump claims that the US won’t be affected by a global trade disaster that he helped cause, he’s either clearly confused, or he’s lying to project strength where there is only weakness. Perhaps a mix of both.

    Trump is lying to shirk his responsibilities and to cope with his embarrassment over operation „epic failure.“

    And after everything that’s happened, Trump now seems like he would be happy with an agreement that resembles the one he previously discarded with no concern for the consequences.

    The US has so far achieved the opposite of its intended goals in this war.

  19. Virtual-Squirrel-725 on

    God, I wish I had the same delusional detachment from truth as this pedo lunatic.

    How easy would life be if you can just make up facts to support whatever fantasy of victory you dream of?

  20. RampantHedgehog on

    Honestly this speech was hard to listen to. What we can learn from this is that he has no plan to end the war in the immediate future. Gonna be a bit ugly

  21. manningthehelm on

    That had to have been one of the worst Presidential addresses in modern history if not the worst.

  22. Smidge-of-the-Obtuse on

    My concern is that his brain is so far gone that he will send a nuke.

    I would not put it past him.

  23. Raspberries-Are-Evil on

    How anyone can see this and think he is fit to continue to control nuclear weapons is beyond me.

    This was batshit.

  24. First-Loss-8540 on

    Fuck the Americans who voted for him and put the whole world in this mess. Never forget and will never forgive

  25. livefromheaven on

    A couple more weeks and he’ll release the Epstein Files to distract from Iran

  26. markeydusod on

    Why the hell does anybody listen to a word he says, it is literally ALL uninformed, made up, bullshit. Why does the media cover him seriously, their supposed to be educated adults. He is not a source of reliable information, of any information, seriously. Investigative reporting is the only way to find out what the fuck is happening in our world. Stop listening to him.

  27. mildurajackaroo on

    Nonsense…he didn’t slur through anything. He spoke clear enough though he was rambling. Rambling is not slurring

    Of course, he still doesn’t have a plan.

  28. “Like nothing they’ve ever seen”. How many times in his ~20 minute speech?

  29. Open_Mortgage_4645 on

    Ok it’s a fucking war. It’s not a military action. He needs Congressional approval because literally nobody asked for this, and now he’s saying that instead of museums, libraries, and healthcare, he needs all our money to pay for wars. That’s what he fucking said. He doesn’t get to make this decision on his own. He needs fucking Congressional approval. Now.

  30. Plantparty20 on

    My favourite statement was that there is currently no inflation in the USA

  31. It’s toddler clown talk on the same IQ level of his MAGA base. It’s frightening how so many Americans can’t reason beyond an elementary school level.
    Operation Epstein Flop has cost many innocent lives and lost about $12 trillion in worldwide equity so far.

  32. Everyone is making fun of him. Yes he’s a ridiculous clown. So is Pennywise. Get his guy in a turtle prison, or a real one soon. Or just you know..

  33. abitofreddit on

    The price of oil jumped 4% during this pathetic excuse of a “speech”.

  34. just watched that weird-ass shit and i jesus fuck i cannot believe that people were so pissed at an old man and a black lady that we’re going to die in nuclear fire because this fucking dipshit wanted to feel like a big man

  35. Easy_Atmosphere_1018 on

    I made my grandmother sit and watch this ramble in its entirety. I mostly wanted to make a point to her that she and most of MAGA, never even actually listen to Trump speak… because they don’t. Everything they know about Trump comes from short carefully edited clips on social media, or comes from the mouths of various podcasters.

    Well, I can tell you I was absolutely shell shocked by what this woman said after it ended. Her face went from excitement at the start, to looking like she just got forced to sit through a ridiculous parody movie.

    I looked her straight in the face and told her;
    “see grandma this man myself and others have been screaming to you about, is an absolute idiot”.

    Here we are and she’s been going down a total rabbit hole of realizations for about an hour or so.

  36. kyfriedtexan on

    So, troops on the ground this weekend. Maybe next week.

    Hegseth going to amp up the religious rhetoric.

    Oil hitting 150. Stock market going to take some hits.

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