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    Lebenslange Haftstrafen für zwei Personen aufgehoben, die wegen Mordes an einem Surrey-Mechaniker für schuldig befunden wurden | CBC-Nachrichten


    Lebenslange Haftstrafen für zwei Personen aufgehoben, die wegen Mordes an einem Surrey-Mechaniker für schuldig befunden wurden | CBC-Nachrichten

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/life-sentences-overturned-ss-9.7149556

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    2. HurlinVermin on

      >“I have no doubt that the brutality and senselessness of the crime in this case will cause some members of the public to view the overturning of the sentences as an injustice,“ Groberman wrote.

      Some? Everyone should be aghast at this. It’s a travesty these punks will be free in less then 3 years, since they have been in custody since 2022 and are being credited with time served.

      We were all dumb, immature kids at one time but the vast majority of us never went out and randomly stabbed a stranger to death. This has nothing to do with maturity or not understanding moral culpability at a young age.

      Our laws are weak and ineffective. Our courts and judges are setting awful precedents.I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a sharp rise in vigilantism if this sort of thing keeps happening.

    3. Dependent_Rip3076 on

      Your honor they stabbed him 40 times.

      The appeals Judge: Boys will be boys 🤷‍♂️

      Welcome to Canada I guess

    4. RaymondReddington812 on

      Fucking dumb. The whole system needs to be abolished. These kids get to live the rest of their lives scott free. The victim doesnt. Fuck those kids.

    5. shiftless_wonder on

      >Groberman wrote that there was no apparent motive behind the youths‘ stabbing of the mechanic, and that a lower court judge was „left with the possibility that it was simply a random act of extreme violence.“

      And now these guys are going to be out on the street again. Thanks SCC!

    6. No-To-Newspeak on

      So murder is now frowned upon, but nothing more than a few years with good behavior.  Got it.  

    7. kwizzle on

      Jesus Christ… A man in my neighbourhood was recently murdered by someone who had killed before but got a shorter sentence because I shit you not, he had ADHD and it made it „difficult for him to control his impulses.“

      The man he killed was named Chong Woo Kim who was 55 and ran a corner store

      Article here: [https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/on-patrol/article/man-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-after-montreal-store-owner-killed/](https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/on-patrol/article/man-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-after-montreal-store-owner-killed/)

    8. KeystoneAccounts on

      This just makes me want to scream… absolutely horrible for the family. We are also setting a dangerous precedent for people to get children to do crime because of light sentencing. So disappointing. 

    10. hardy_83 on

      So… It sounds bad but I guess it’s because, they being tried as adults, shouldn’t have been. And the sentence was dropped to the maximum a youth can be jailed for in a crime.

      Should that change? I dunno maybe, probably, but it doesn’t sound like it was an err on a judges judgement.

    15. LasagnaMountebank on

      If random unprovoked murder isn’t worthy of hard time, then what is? 7 years is LESS than the Crown was seeking for Lich/Barber for “mischief” aka protesting the government.

      Unserious country

    16. Spindlebiff69 on

      This is a clear case of mental illness on both the judge and the boys, may god help you.

    20. Winbot4t2 on

      But have you considered their parents were mean to them in earlier years? It’s not their fault they couldn’t help but randomly stab someone 40 times to death.

    21. JmacNutSac on

      Delphin Paul Prestbakmo’s family needs to make these youths “disappear “ when they get out. Stabbed 40 times? Actions of individuals that no longer need to breathe the air or live in our society freely.

    22. doublexoxo on

      Wtf is this bs? I was a stupid teenager too but I was still old enough to know better that randomly brutally murdering an innocent person is not okay

    23. king_bungholio on

      My understanding is that this case was tried in 2022, before the Supreme Court decision raising the bar for the Crown to have teens tried as adults. I would expect an appeal from the Crown here, and either the Supreme Court needs to clarify its ruling further (ie some acts are so wrong/egregious that increased culpability can be inferred), or a retrial ought to be ordered. I don’t think its entirely fair that the Crown get penalized because they failed to prove a standard that didn’t exist during the initial trial, but likewise you can’t say that the ruling doesn’t apply to older cases because there could very well be circumstances where a teen was wrongly tried as an adult.

    24. hisnameis_ERENYEAGER on

      Our Justice System is probably some of the worst parts of Canada. I’m all for reforming inmates but letting killers out just because of age is ridiculous. These people deserve to be in jail and put through psychiatric help.

    25. Javaddict on

      Genuinely what are they teaching in Law school that drives the judicial system to fail the public so much? I would rather have Victorian England era punishments over this abhorrent mindset.

    26. ConfidentInsecurity on

      Is there anything we can do about this? Calling, emailing, voting? Please let me know how we can stop this level of judicial neglect 🙏

    27. thundertoots on

      I was friends with Paul when we were teenagers and am still in contact with some of his family. This entire situation is a fucking travesty of justice and he deserves better than this.

    30. untitledaccount401 on

      The powers that be don’t care because it doesn’t effect them

      If it was an mp son’s this wouldnt be happening

      But it was one of us so who cares

    32. mlandry2011 on

      So many convicted murderes are getting what they want this week. Did Trump cross over the border?

      We’re starting to look worse than the USA…

    34. RicketyEdge on

      Now these two fuckin‘ animals will be running lose in no time at all, and their identities are sealed so who knows who they even are.

      Just another example of the legal system failing Canadians again.

    35. Low-HangingFruit on

      Appeal this shit ruling. I have 0 respect left for the legal system in this country.

      Fuck the judges who ruled this way.

    36. havereddit on

      The argument of youth vs adult sentencing is intractable. Imagine if we said something like „the age of sexual consent is legally 18, unless it can be proven that the actions of the 13 year old were so sexually advanced that they should be treated like an adult“.

      This is exactly the argument being made when youth offenders get tried as adults.

      Set a youth vs. adult age and stick to it

    37. swift-current0 on

      Generally, I like the idea of judicial discretion, and not focusing too much on punishment. But this has gone way too far, to the point of absurdity. We need major judicial reform in Canada, to reign in activist judges and re-balance the system from being so heavily skewed toward considering only the rights of the accused during sentencing and bail, and almost wantonly disregarding the rights of victims, public safety, the concept of deterrence, etc. Fucking enough is enough.

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