It’s actually quite impressive for the chancellor to admit that in her belief lowering the fuel taxes (and thus prices) will increase inflation.
Embarrassed_Grass_16 on
I, like most the country, think the threshold should be exactly 1p above my exact salary
ne6c on
More handouts instead of dealing with the actual problems.
Thandoscovia on
Since Madam Chancellor believes that lowering costs causes inflation, and costs are going through the roof at the moment, what is she worried about? Surely we’re about to enter a blessed period of low inflation
tezmo666 on
Oh great, squeeze the middle a bit more. Anything but these energy companies making slightly less profit in a time of international crisis.
Billy_Rizzle on
How many young worker adults still live at home because they can’t afford a place of their own again?
steveos1011 on
Me: works hard = will receive nothing.
My brother: has not worked in years (bum) = will receive more handouts.
Same old story.
Neat_Owl_807 on
So middle income families already squeezed by never rising tax thresholds and cost of living. These families will be paying to further support older income poor but very wealthy empty nesters. Living in houses well beyond the value these families will ever be able to afford.
Maybe Reeves should be encouraging oaps to downsize to smaller cheaper more energy efficient housing and using their money to pay their own energy bills
CautiousReader101 on
Middle earners getting fucked again.
At least they’re helping their voting demographic
Helen83FromVillage on
So, if you work, no support. If you hide money from HMRC, you have full support.
Good initiative. Did she think why Labour is losing elections?
Thefdt on
Reeves ‘I plan to tax middle earners more to pay for this’
ohmyblahblah on
They must be getting a lot of extra VAT that hadn’t been budgeted for due to the price of petrol etc rising so sharply.
Couldn’t that be cut temporarily to alleviate some of it? And make it so that it has to be passed on to customers at the pumps
UJ_Reddit on
What labour just do not get us that everyone under 100k is being squeezed one way or another
Edit: a lot saying over 100k too, which is true , but you do get more choice at that level.
I’m referring more to pure middle class – those with a kid or 2, FT day care costs, a £1800 mortgage etc.
Right now labour over protects all pensioners regardless of their wealth, and those without a job. It’s a tired narrative but the poor are now paying for the old and the lazy.
Realistic_Alps_90 on
Everyone complaining in the comments while the threshold hasn’t been announced yet. Reeves is doing the right thing. The whole point of this is to avoid giving 1/3 of the fund to the rich, not to “squeeze” the middle class. Stop complaining all the time ffs.
Salty-Bid1597 on
Maybe one day we’ll get a government that stops meddling, stops the nannying and nagging, stops flinging out handouts (aka electoral bribes) at the drop of a hat and starts treating people as adults instead of institutionalised children.
Not holding my breath though.
AI-Slop-Bot on
Yay, squeezed again.
2% pay rise when inflation is 4%, but all bills go up by greater than 4% and my net pay rise is only 1% after tax and student loan. But apparently I can barely more burden. Absolute joke of a country.
Concerted effort to reduce living standards in this country through driving down wages and driving up cost of living using immigration. And if it’s not having to compete with the highly educated foreign workers, jobs are offshored to India, or being replaced by AI. What’s the end game here? The country lacks and sort of cohesion now and we’re giving up our skilled work and blocking entry level jobs for our youths. This country is not being run for its citizens.
Saliiim on
Middle class one again being asked to bend over for the benefit of everyone else.
Icy_Neighborhood2384 on
Why don’t we slap a tariff on US imports for their war we wanted nothing to do with? As Trump would have us believe, that will be paid by the companies exporting to the UK from the US (shakes head).
On a serious note, income says nothing about wealth. Lots of wealthy people take very little income, so they would likely get support they don’t need.
CarlxtosWay on
When the Tory government brought in a universal scheme to cap energy bills this sub was crying about subsidising Rishi Sunak to heat his swimming pool.
But people are now moaning when the Chancellor has said any support would be targeted based on income before they have even decided what that income level will be.
Fickle_Shopping_6601 on
Says a woman who’s just had an over 3 grand payrise to cope with cost of living, Mps are on over £100,000 a year, most ( not all) will have a partner too and they won’t be working at tesco, probably bring in a similar amount as the MP or more. Mps dont pay bills and claim everything on expenses, is their household income taken into consideration before they can claim that money? So any households bringing in less than an MPs household is entitled to help.
iwillupvoteyourface on
I’m sure a lot of those suffering business owners who only make a little over 12k will be grateful for the help.
raven43122 on
Oh… so in other words.
You work, get back to it we got to give you money to buy ones that don’t want to.
Atleast last time everyone got it.
Miss_Andry101 on
I’m going to turn into a broken record on this but I don’t think anyone but the energy companies are actually going to be getting help either.
They will once again ‚help‘ people on low incomes by paying money directly into the accounts of energy companies and let us all fight amongst ourselves about how that is the fault of the poorest in our country.
Poor people will be no better off. We will *all* just be worse off and energy companies, once again, make a killing from tax payers.
The entire thing is a neoliberal dream.
If they really want to help the most vulnerable with energy bills MAKE THE ENERGY COMPANIES SUBSIDISE THEM from their fucking profits.
If they are going to be using our money to help people with the cost of living, due to the new energy crisis, they better give *them* the money and not big businesses. I’d rather they spent it and it went back into the economy than see it go straight into ‚British Power‘ and all their shareholder accounts.
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It’s actually quite impressive for the chancellor to admit that in her belief lowering the fuel taxes (and thus prices) will increase inflation.
I, like most the country, think the threshold should be exactly 1p above my exact salary
More handouts instead of dealing with the actual problems.
Since Madam Chancellor believes that lowering costs causes inflation, and costs are going through the roof at the moment, what is she worried about? Surely we’re about to enter a blessed period of low inflation
Oh great, squeeze the middle a bit more. Anything but these energy companies making slightly less profit in a time of international crisis.
How many young worker adults still live at home because they can’t afford a place of their own again?
Me: works hard = will receive nothing.
My brother: has not worked in years (bum) = will receive more handouts.
Same old story.
So middle income families already squeezed by never rising tax thresholds and cost of living. These families will be paying to further support older income poor but very wealthy empty nesters. Living in houses well beyond the value these families will ever be able to afford.
Maybe Reeves should be encouraging oaps to downsize to smaller cheaper more energy efficient housing and using their money to pay their own energy bills
Middle earners getting fucked again.
At least they’re helping their voting demographic
So, if you work, no support. If you hide money from HMRC, you have full support.
Good initiative. Did she think why Labour is losing elections?
Reeves ‘I plan to tax middle earners more to pay for this’
They must be getting a lot of extra VAT that hadn’t been budgeted for due to the price of petrol etc rising so sharply.
Couldn’t that be cut temporarily to alleviate some of it? And make it so that it has to be passed on to customers at the pumps
What labour just do not get us that everyone under 100k is being squeezed one way or another
Edit: a lot saying over 100k too, which is true , but you do get more choice at that level.
I’m referring more to pure middle class – those with a kid or 2, FT day care costs, a £1800 mortgage etc.
Right now labour over protects all pensioners regardless of their wealth, and those without a job. It’s a tired narrative but the poor are now paying for the old and the lazy.
Everyone complaining in the comments while the threshold hasn’t been announced yet. Reeves is doing the right thing. The whole point of this is to avoid giving 1/3 of the fund to the rich, not to “squeeze” the middle class. Stop complaining all the time ffs.
Maybe one day we’ll get a government that stops meddling, stops the nannying and nagging, stops flinging out handouts (aka electoral bribes) at the drop of a hat and starts treating people as adults instead of institutionalised children.
Not holding my breath though.
Yay, squeezed again.
2% pay rise when inflation is 4%, but all bills go up by greater than 4% and my net pay rise is only 1% after tax and student loan. But apparently I can barely more burden. Absolute joke of a country.
Concerted effort to reduce living standards in this country through driving down wages and driving up cost of living using immigration. And if it’s not having to compete with the highly educated foreign workers, jobs are offshored to India, or being replaced by AI. What’s the end game here? The country lacks and sort of cohesion now and we’re giving up our skilled work and blocking entry level jobs for our youths. This country is not being run for its citizens.
Middle class one again being asked to bend over for the benefit of everyone else.
Why don’t we slap a tariff on US imports for their war we wanted nothing to do with? As Trump would have us believe, that will be paid by the companies exporting to the UK from the US (shakes head).
On a serious note, income says nothing about wealth. Lots of wealthy people take very little income, so they would likely get support they don’t need.
When the Tory government brought in a universal scheme to cap energy bills this sub was crying about subsidising Rishi Sunak to heat his swimming pool.
But people are now moaning when the Chancellor has said any support would be targeted based on income before they have even decided what that income level will be.
Says a woman who’s just had an over 3 grand payrise to cope with cost of living, Mps are on over £100,000 a year, most ( not all) will have a partner too and they won’t be working at tesco, probably bring in a similar amount as the MP or more. Mps dont pay bills and claim everything on expenses, is their household income taken into consideration before they can claim that money? So any households bringing in less than an MPs household is entitled to help.
I’m sure a lot of those suffering business owners who only make a little over 12k will be grateful for the help.
Oh… so in other words.
You work, get back to it we got to give you money to buy ones that don’t want to.
Atleast last time everyone got it.
I’m going to turn into a broken record on this but I don’t think anyone but the energy companies are actually going to be getting help either.
They will once again ‚help‘ people on low incomes by paying money directly into the accounts of energy companies and let us all fight amongst ourselves about how that is the fault of the poorest in our country.
Poor people will be no better off. We will *all* just be worse off and energy companies, once again, make a killing from tax payers.
The entire thing is a neoliberal dream.
If they really want to help the most vulnerable with energy bills MAKE THE ENERGY COMPANIES SUBSIDISE THEM from their fucking profits.
If they are going to be using our money to help people with the cost of living, due to the new energy crisis, they better give *them* the money and not big businesses. I’d rather they spent it and it went back into the economy than see it go straight into ‚British Power‘ and all their shareholder accounts.