Toyota: „Viele Bereiche, in denen Menschen ohne Benzinautos nicht auskommen“
https://www.motor1.com/news/791619/toyota-gas-cars-still-necessary/
Toyota: „Viele Bereiche, in denen Menschen ohne Benzinautos nicht auskommen“
https://www.motor1.com/news/791619/toyota-gas-cars-still-necessary/
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Still making excuses… Come on, Toyota.
If you don’t live in a major metro and drive distance, this is 100% accurate and not an excuse.
My wife and I camp, we live in Washington. Anywhere we want to camp in WA, OR or ID has long empty stretches off the beaten path with no easy access to a charging station. Meanwhile I still have access to a gas station.
So for our camping vehicle, we not only need a 500 mile capacity for distance and cold, we need charging stations to be more abundant in these areas/pockets.
I’m all about going full electric, but for us it’s still not there yet for one vehicle. Will be making the jump for the other vehicle in the next house though
A few African countries don’t even bother with building petrol stations and go straight 100% EVs and they still make up excuses. Pretty much every petrol station needs electricity anyway unless it’s some weird hand pump unicorn, so what’s the point?
Is some desert outpost in the middle of nowhere that lives on 10L gas containers and makes up 0,001% of sales worth of this complete failure of a future proof strategy?
I have to study online college because Seville has one of the shittiest public transports of the world and im unable to get driving license ( disability reasons)
This might currently be the case for a lot of places.
But with Norway’s example – a sparsely populated very long country with harsh freezing temparatures – if you get a car with reasonable range (~400km) then there’s basically nowhere that you need an ICE car. The infrastructure is pretty mature because people only buy EVs here.
Given the current state of the world I think most nations plan for a contingency where they produce as much energy as possible within their borders. It can, as we see now, become extremely dangerous and costly to be dependent on foreign energy. And right now the absolute best and cheapest way to achieve energy independence is a wind/solar/battery solution. And EVs tie right into that strategy.
So Toyota are definitely on the wrong side of history here.
Not enough electricity as the data centers need it along with SSDs, Memory, and water.
False, this is an excuse.
My town in South Africa do not yet have a charging station. I think Cape Town has a few. The issue is that the government here uses tax on fuel to fund road maintenance etc. EVs are heavier usually than ICE cars , so they put more strain on the roads. The current solution is to have a lot of tax on ev cars making them quite unaffordable for most. Toyota does extremely well here.
>Many Areas Where People Cannot Get By Without Gas Cars
It also looks like they’re using this as justification against electric cars… which is stupid.
Just because an electric car might not work on the unpaved roads of the Australian outback, has no impact on their usefulness in more densely populated areas, which by definition is where *most* people live.
I really believe that EREVs will help bridge this gap. A pure plug-in EV with an added under the hood range extender (generator). Maybe there even could come a day where you can swap range extenders for preferred fuel source, even hydrogen fuel cell, or delete them to save weight if not necessary.
Amish farms, desert island, middle of the forest. Otherwise, there is an electric plug every few miles.
It’s a feature not a bug. The oil industry doesn’t want to evolve they was bigger profits with the status quo.
Sure, but is that the business model you want to chase? Lol
The vast majority don’t use cars that way
We need more level 3 chargers for those that live in apartments. When solid state batteries start showing up in 2-3 years and your EV goes from 300 miles to 600 miles per charge (and 80% in 10-15 minutes) then the average commuter will need to charge their EV maybe twice a month?
Not exactly the point of the article, but many apartments and condominiums have shared community parking and no charging capability.
Also, if you have a large family, the vehicle options are non existent.
In which EV can I seat 3-5 kids and also take them to the lake on a road trip in the summer without having to stop for a long re-charge?
It’s behavior like this that’s going to cost Toyota big time
Not exactly the point of the article, but many apartments and condominiums have shared community parking and no charging capability.
Also, if you have a large family, the vehicle options are non existent.
In which EV can I seat 3-5 kids and also take them to the lake on a road trip in the summer without having to stop for a long re-charge?
I will never own a EV. The automakers learned the majority of people won’t either.
I really like my PHEV and when my lease is up, it’s very likely that my next car will be fully electric.
But they’re not wrong. If I couldn’t charge at home or if I lived in a very rural area (or somewhere subject to frequent power outages), it wouldn’t be the right kind of car for me.
I dont think we should aim for „5 minutes recharge at old gas station“, but „1 hours recharge at restaurants and malls“.
If peoples are trapped 1 hours at a mall to „fuel“ their car, they will shop there.
Just like many areas where a smartphone didn’t work well due to a poor cellular network.
It will change.
There’s a stretch of highway I travel sometimes that has about a 250km section where there are no gas stations on the highway. You do pass some towns/cities so you can exit the highway and get gas, but those are probably 5-10 minutes off the highway.
The first gas station, if headed north, always has their gas prices spiked by 5-10 cents a litre. They know what theyre doing.
I always think about this stretch with EVs which already have very few charging stations up here. You really want to enter that stretch on a full charge. I remember the first time I came up on this stretch I planned poorly and pulled into that overpriced gas station with 80km left in the tank in my old ICE car. That was way too close for me.
Yea, I am in one of those.
If I was in a city, I’d have a Tesla like 2 years ago
The whole african continent
Something that doesnt make sense….
There is a powerline, so there can be a charging station.
Way less logistically difficult than having trucks transport thousands of litres of fuel to every place, pump it into underground storage which needs to be built to specific specs, then safety valves on all the dispensers, then also environmental impacts etc.
Not having atleast one charging station makes no sense for the fuel stations.
You got somewhere you can plug in at home (a normal 120v plug will do) and drive less than 60-70 miles a day? Then you can get by without gas cars.
There are people who drive professionally or come from the boonies but most people can probably be just fine once they realize the habits involved of having a gas car don’t really apply to an electric car.
Most people do not drive more than 100 miles a day, or 160km. Let’s even round that up to 200km, or 124.3 miles.
Current EVs across the board all can handle that, and all can recover that when charged overnight, even on slow charge.
Okay, but there are far more where EVs will do just fine. Most people don’t drive 100 kms a day.
My city has been pushing EV for years. Yet, there’s little to no places for people to charge them.
Toyota is stuck in the past. Simple as that.
Denial and it will be Toyota’s undoing.
Sad because they were one of the first to popularize hybrids and should have been at the forefront of EREV’s and BEV’s.
Now they are being surpassed by Chinese EV manufacturers and instead of digging in and fighting they are putting all their eggs into internal combustion engines and hybrids.
I still don’t want an electric car because they’re still too inconvenient and not viable for so many people.
Batteries wear out and need replaced as soon as a decade after heavy use, which can be 10s of thousands of dollars to replace. This makes long term ownership a bad idea and resale value bad.
Still takes relatively forever to charge them compared to filling with gas, which makes long trips that much more difficult. Stay at a hotel? Hope it has a charger. Stay at a friends? Hope they have a charger.
Oh yeah, and you have to spend $1500 to install a supercharger at your house too. Hope you own the house, or don’t live in a shared dwelling community, too, or else you’re probably not installing a supercharger.
Ironically, in no way is this true for anywhere in Japan. Yet they continue to make/drive ICE vehicles there.
Do they want my money or not lol