There’s nothing shocking: 2/3 of their leading scientists got their PhDs in the US as they were offered better opportunities by government-funded research in China than by the universities in the US.
HonestBalloon on
Russia and China have historically produced way more engineers and scientists than the US dating back to the Soviet era.
They also have far more different types of institutions set up, outside of universities and private research, to help develop these skills.
However, the main point of the article is that China is looking to increase research spending by 7%, whilst Trump is pulling funding across the board.
RipComfortable7989 on
It’s like most of America fell for the pre2000s propaganda about China and assumed there would be no changes in 25+ years. China has been climbing in terms of modernization in so many aspects of life and you still see Americans memeing about „social credit“ and the one child policy because their brains are still stuck pre-2000s. They’ve been on the rise for the last 2 decades.
rumblegod on
Easier to get stuff done in authoritarian states.
Lucifer_Sam-_- on
They don’t have a government that believes in ‚magic‘.
ihexx on
Government funding education, research institutions and infrastructure leads to thriving scientific research?
Shocking. Truly no one could have predicted this
BluehibiscusEmpire on
It’s hardly surprising. When you invest time money and resources into growth, rather than actively fighting science & defunding it, results will come and the distinction becomes more stark
antman_greaseman on
Oh no…. No more research on gender studies.
abhitooth on
China is officially an atheist state so no religious rituals or rules need to be followed or forced upon. Which gives ample time to people with either work or family.
Due_Satisfaction2167 on
I mean, the US pretty much explicitly abandoned any effort to maintain its position here.
floppydo on
30 years of focused, disciplined groundwork “suddenly” leads to explosive growth? Shocker!
Arb3395 on
Shocking? Its only shocking to anybody who thinks defunding education is a good thing.
Andre1661 on
I did my undergrad science degree in the 1980’s in Canada, and while there were not a lot of Chinese students at the university in those days, we all knew that the students China allowed to attend universities in North America were chosen because they were incredibly bright and very hard-working. I remember very distinctly sitting in the first class of a third year math course and realizing that of the 20 students, 14 of them were Chinese. I immediately switched to a different section of that course because I just knew the Chinese students would push the grade bell-curve so far to the right there wasn’t a chance in hell an average student like myself would pass that course. It was nothing against Chinese students, but we just knew they were all shooting for a 4.0 GPA.
Foreign_Selection_60 on
To put it simply,Chinese are way more smarter than American
More-Razzmatazz-6804 on
30 years of work…
vanguy79 on
To be fair there’s a lot of factors that contribute.
1) Chinese and Asians in general invests a lot into education because they truly believe education gives them better jobs and a better life. Something the Americans totally forgot.
2) In the past 30 years, technology accelerated a lot and democratize teachings. These days kids can learn a lot from YouTube videos where previously these things need to be learnt in college or from hunting down a trainer that is willing to teach you things.
3) Steal and adapt. It’s no secret the Chinese copy and steal technology in the first few decades . But after copying, they are the ones who adapt the technology and improve it even more. And this is key. Anyone can copy. But it takes people with the right attitude to also learn and understand to adapt the technology they copied.
0Hyena_Pancakes0 on
And yet they still treat homosexuality as if its some western political amalgamation rather than a normal part of nature, regardless of species. Not very science-ey of them to deny exploration of topics that their government tells them they can’t research. Or promote. I mean you are talking about a country that has censorship laws that are obscene and downright stupid.
America is bad. China is bad. Tired of people and their dick size comparison contests with countries that dont give two shits about them.
treenewbee_ on
Indeed, the speed is astonishing. But, standing on the shoulders of giants, how can it not be astonishing? The CCP itself uses this rhetoric to deceive the Chinese people. And yet, people here actually believe it?
I never imagined that CCP propaganda is everywhere. I can only warn everyone: the CCP only knows lies.
LaytMovies on
Investing in education and technology, whod a thunk it
RoughAddress on
Bot post again…
waterRatzo on
Alternative Headline: The shocking speed of the Rise of Ignorance in the United States.
AgentCooderX on
this is what happen to countries who can separate religion and governance..
sambeau on
Turns out that paying for people to be educated results in more people being educated.
ScienceAlien on
China has been building a future brick by brick for decades. They have a technological fortress and will dominate us as we collapse under our own weight.
Marx was right. Capitalism did eat itself. It just took a while.
CelebrationFit8548 on
It is not hard to understand why when we see Trump *et al.* peddling ‚extremely fanatically ignorant rhetoric‘ of wind turbine cancer whilst simultaneously ‚chanting „drill baby drill“ dragging the US back to the ‚good ole days of the 1920’s‘ just so he can live some delusional fantasy, cutting funding to all science and research.
Dragging other countries into their vortex of insanity in the process. It’s very easy to see why China is surging forward and readily surpassing such horrendously incompetent and batshit insane leadership, entrapped and beholden to the fossil fuels.
QuarkGluonPlasma137 on
America isnt looking good right now. We will be dominated by China who doesn’t run on progressive thinking,innovation. Its state sponsored backing for targeted strategic goals using science.
America is going to get left behind if we dont have more leaders knowledgeable on science and at the tip of the spear on whats the future.
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There’s nothing shocking: 2/3 of their leading scientists got their PhDs in the US as they were offered better opportunities by government-funded research in China than by the universities in the US.
Russia and China have historically produced way more engineers and scientists than the US dating back to the Soviet era.
They also have far more different types of institutions set up, outside of universities and private research, to help develop these skills.
However, the main point of the article is that China is looking to increase research spending by 7%, whilst Trump is pulling funding across the board.
It’s like most of America fell for the pre2000s propaganda about China and assumed there would be no changes in 25+ years. China has been climbing in terms of modernization in so many aspects of life and you still see Americans memeing about „social credit“ and the one child policy because their brains are still stuck pre-2000s. They’ve been on the rise for the last 2 decades.
Easier to get stuff done in authoritarian states.
They don’t have a government that believes in ‚magic‘.
Government funding education, research institutions and infrastructure leads to thriving scientific research?
Shocking. Truly no one could have predicted this
It’s hardly surprising. When you invest time money and resources into growth, rather than actively fighting science & defunding it, results will come and the distinction becomes more stark
Oh no…. No more research on gender studies.
China is officially an atheist state so no religious rituals or rules need to be followed or forced upon. Which gives ample time to people with either work or family.
I mean, the US pretty much explicitly abandoned any effort to maintain its position here.
30 years of focused, disciplined groundwork “suddenly” leads to explosive growth? Shocker!
Shocking? Its only shocking to anybody who thinks defunding education is a good thing.
I did my undergrad science degree in the 1980’s in Canada, and while there were not a lot of Chinese students at the university in those days, we all knew that the students China allowed to attend universities in North America were chosen because they were incredibly bright and very hard-working. I remember very distinctly sitting in the first class of a third year math course and realizing that of the 20 students, 14 of them were Chinese. I immediately switched to a different section of that course because I just knew the Chinese students would push the grade bell-curve so far to the right there wasn’t a chance in hell an average student like myself would pass that course. It was nothing against Chinese students, but we just knew they were all shooting for a 4.0 GPA.
To put it simply,Chinese are way more smarter than American
30 years of work…
To be fair there’s a lot of factors that contribute.
1) Chinese and Asians in general invests a lot into education because they truly believe education gives them better jobs and a better life. Something the Americans totally forgot.
2) In the past 30 years, technology accelerated a lot and democratize teachings. These days kids can learn a lot from YouTube videos where previously these things need to be learnt in college or from hunting down a trainer that is willing to teach you things.
3) Steal and adapt. It’s no secret the Chinese copy and steal technology in the first few decades . But after copying, they are the ones who adapt the technology and improve it even more. And this is key. Anyone can copy. But it takes people with the right attitude to also learn and understand to adapt the technology they copied.
And yet they still treat homosexuality as if its some western political amalgamation rather than a normal part of nature, regardless of species. Not very science-ey of them to deny exploration of topics that their government tells them they can’t research. Or promote. I mean you are talking about a country that has censorship laws that are obscene and downright stupid.
America is bad. China is bad. Tired of people and their dick size comparison contests with countries that dont give two shits about them.
Indeed, the speed is astonishing. But, standing on the shoulders of giants, how can it not be astonishing? The CCP itself uses this rhetoric to deceive the Chinese people. And yet, people here actually believe it?
I never imagined that CCP propaganda is everywhere. I can only warn everyone: the CCP only knows lies.
Investing in education and technology, whod a thunk it
Bot post again…
Alternative Headline: The shocking speed of the Rise of Ignorance in the United States.
this is what happen to countries who can separate religion and governance..
Turns out that paying for people to be educated results in more people being educated.
China has been building a future brick by brick for decades. They have a technological fortress and will dominate us as we collapse under our own weight.
Marx was right. Capitalism did eat itself. It just took a while.
It is not hard to understand why when we see Trump *et al.* peddling ‚extremely fanatically ignorant rhetoric‘ of wind turbine cancer whilst simultaneously ‚chanting „drill baby drill“ dragging the US back to the ‚good ole days of the 1920’s‘ just so he can live some delusional fantasy, cutting funding to all science and research.
Dragging other countries into their vortex of insanity in the process. It’s very easy to see why China is surging forward and readily surpassing such horrendously incompetent and batshit insane leadership, entrapped and beholden to the fossil fuels.
America isnt looking good right now. We will be dominated by China who doesn’t run on progressive thinking,innovation. Its state sponsored backing for targeted strategic goals using science.
America is going to get left behind if we dont have more leaders knowledgeable on science and at the tip of the spear on whats the future.