But the Iranians will put them in their suicide vests and blow up the empty malls!
DaddyKiwwi on
I don’t want to set the world on fire. I just want to start a flame in your heart!
Ok-Replacement9595 on
Not if they are owned by a few billionaire tech nazis
Friendly_Engineer_ on
We’ve heard this one before. We want RENEWABLES like solar and wind with batteries not distractions and red herrings.
waltz_with_potatoes on
Then we get Mr Handy and Power suits..
KennyDROmega on
Feel like I’ve read some variation of this every year for at least ten years.
m0ngoos3 on
For those who don’t know, the smaller a reactor the harder it is for that reactor to meltdown. You just don’t have enough fuel.
Think about it like a backyard fire pit vs a bonfire.
The fire pit can be made almost 100% safe without much work, but it’s not going to provide warmth for more than a handful of people.
The bonfire on the other hand, that takes a lot of planning to be made acceptably safe, but there are bonfire celebrations where thousands attend. The homecoming bonfire that my hometown ran regularly drew 2-3 thousand people.
The same logic applies to nuclear reactors, as you decrease the fuel, there comes a point where there’s no longer enough potential heat to melt the containment vessel.
So I’m all in on the SMRs, just so long as the power goes to people first.
twinpac on
Unless SMR gets way way cheaper it’s going to be a very hard sell. Grid storage batteries and renewable energy is currently cheaper and prices will only continue to fall in the future.
DENelson83 on
Looks like a cobalt bomb.
WardenWolf on
Note that modern reactors can be intrinsically safe; they can be designed in such a way that a meltdown is impossible because there’s not enough fuel in them at any one time to go supercritical and get hot enough to cause fuel melt even under worst-case scenario.
bottlechippedteeth on
oh yea im sure we’ll get right on that
Loki-L on
Small modular reactors have been the future for a very long time now. For example here is the U.S. Secretary of Energy writing about them in a Wall Street Journal op-ed 16 years ago:
Between reasonable concerns about safety and NIMBYism these face some challenges in the implementation beyond the technical ones.
The biggest barrier however is money. They are more expensive than alternatives like solar.
There might be genuine use cases here like powering arctic bases and ships, but overall this is not a winning solution to an actual problem.
NirvanaDewHeel on
Solar is so fucking cheap already
One-Reflection-4826 on
solar and wind could be as well, with the advantage that they already exist and are dirt cheap.
people act like we still have to solve climate change. guys, we already have the solution! let nuclear be a part of it, sure, but its not tech that’s holding us back, its corporations, politicians and consumers, in this order.
graDescentIntoMadnes on
You can accomplish a lot of the same things with very deep geothermal wells, at a comparable cost with much less safety and environmental risk.
Both technologies are being developed And my opinion is that we should focus on the wells.
TheInvisibleToast on
We can’t even build basic infrastructure like high speed rail or electric cars without copious litigation and lobbying.
Heck, a non negligible percentage of our population believed 5g was supposed to give you cancer. And vaccines cause autism so now we have measles again.
There’s no way people would be okay with a nuclear reactor anywhere near their homes.
Playful-Position4735 on
They won’t release these to the public cuz shocker get a bunch of em and can make a low yield boom boom stick or so I hear
ayetipee on
Someone who knows about nuclear/law: wouldn’t this just open the door for various parties to aggregate nuclear material? Buy up a bunch of reactors and voila, no? Even with strict regulation and oversight on purchasing, surely that could and would be circumvented?
CMG30 on
The 1950’s called and wanted their article back.
GadreelsSword on
We don’t need AI displacing 60% of American jobs and littering the landscape with unnecessary nuclear reactors.
AI is a billionaire dream of them becoming trillionaires. Call your representatives now before you’re on the street starving.
argama87 on
Can’t we just have wind and solar already?
forestapee on
Further confirmation that we are in the fallout universe lagging by 75-100yrs
firedrakes on
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reddit bros everywhere…
what the word research mean???
seems reddit bros everywhere love being lied and mis info to .
The_Goondocks on
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wiinga on
Back when I was a child in the 60s, I envisioned reactors the size of washing machines behind everyone’s house. This was “flying car” times.
woodenmetalman on
Solar and batteries are the obvious path forward. Maybe a few SMR’s but mostly solar and batteries cause obviously.
turb0_encapsulator on
tiny solar panels and batteries could be the key to unlimited power across America.
frisbeethecat on
SMRs are a pump-and-dump IPO scam. They’re too expensive. And nobody wants the hassles (NIMBY, etc). They’re just like the New Age of Dirigibles companies. The investor class wants them to happen, but they’re not going to happen.
Look, solar is cheap and getting cheaper. And it’s distributed instead of centralized, so the stock market can’t leverage Monopoly money to make fuck-all-y’all returns on investments. The only thing that’s a problem is power storage. It’s been getting better, fwiw, but slowly.
MirrorUpper9693 on
The possibility that they will be cheaper and safer than renewable energy is vanishingly small. Before we build these can we please finish cleaning up Hanford, contaminated since WW2 with ground plumes headed for the Columbia River.
Pirwzy on
I’ll get excited when they actually have them built and operating outside of a research project.
theperipherypeople on
These SMRs are built by parallel institutionalists destroying America. Funded by Thiel, Lonsdale, Andreessen, aiming to supply power for their Network State projects.
CatalyticDragon on
Could be, but won’t.
Get_your_grape_juice on
This feels like the power generation equivalent of cryptocurrency. Surely fits into the DecentralizationBro mold.
Also, it’ll be even worse for the environment. Every house in the US requiring its own fissile material? Can you *imagine* how much nuclear waste this will produce?
The current power grid is a much more efficient, *and* environmentally friendly setup than whatever this would be. And all those wind farms that Trump has literally paid a billion dollars to have canceled would provide even more energy to the grid, with no added nuclear waste.
God, this is such a terrible idea.
Baselet on
Stupid headline, presumably stupid article.
Jstrangways on
Or just use non polluting wind and solar
DanielPhermous on
Pretty sure solar plus battery is cheaper. Build nuclear power stations if you like but a farmer down the road will put solar over his crops and undercut you.
40 Kommentare
But the Iranians will put them in their suicide vests and blow up the empty malls!
I don’t want to set the world on fire. I just want to start a flame in your heart!
Not if they are owned by a few billionaire tech nazis
We’ve heard this one before. We want RENEWABLES like solar and wind with batteries not distractions and red herrings.
Then we get Mr Handy and Power suits..
Feel like I’ve read some variation of this every year for at least ten years.
For those who don’t know, the smaller a reactor the harder it is for that reactor to meltdown. You just don’t have enough fuel.
Think about it like a backyard fire pit vs a bonfire.
The fire pit can be made almost 100% safe without much work, but it’s not going to provide warmth for more than a handful of people.
The bonfire on the other hand, that takes a lot of planning to be made acceptably safe, but there are bonfire celebrations where thousands attend. The homecoming bonfire that my hometown ran regularly drew 2-3 thousand people.
The same logic applies to nuclear reactors, as you decrease the fuel, there comes a point where there’s no longer enough potential heat to melt the containment vessel.
So I’m all in on the SMRs, just so long as the power goes to people first.
Unless SMR gets way way cheaper it’s going to be a very hard sell. Grid storage batteries and renewable energy is currently cheaper and prices will only continue to fall in the future.
Looks like a cobalt bomb.
Note that modern reactors can be intrinsically safe; they can be designed in such a way that a meltdown is impossible because there’s not enough fuel in them at any one time to go supercritical and get hot enough to cause fuel melt even under worst-case scenario.
oh yea im sure we’ll get right on that
Small modular reactors have been the future for a very long time now. For example here is the U.S. Secretary of Energy writing about them in a Wall Street Journal op-ed 16 years ago:
[Steven Chu’s „America’s New Nuclear Option“ (WSJ op-ed, March 23 2010)](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704231304575092130239999278)
Between reasonable concerns about safety and NIMBYism these face some challenges in the implementation beyond the technical ones.
The biggest barrier however is money. They are more expensive than alternatives like solar.
There might be genuine use cases here like powering arctic bases and ships, but overall this is not a winning solution to an actual problem.
Solar is so fucking cheap already
solar and wind could be as well, with the advantage that they already exist and are dirt cheap.
people act like we still have to solve climate change. guys, we already have the solution! let nuclear be a part of it, sure, but its not tech that’s holding us back, its corporations, politicians and consumers, in this order.
You can accomplish a lot of the same things with very deep geothermal wells, at a comparable cost with much less safety and environmental risk.
Both technologies are being developed And my opinion is that we should focus on the wells.
We can’t even build basic infrastructure like high speed rail or electric cars without copious litigation and lobbying.
Heck, a non negligible percentage of our population believed 5g was supposed to give you cancer. And vaccines cause autism so now we have measles again.
There’s no way people would be okay with a nuclear reactor anywhere near their homes.
They won’t release these to the public cuz shocker get a bunch of em and can make a low yield boom boom stick or so I hear
Someone who knows about nuclear/law: wouldn’t this just open the door for various parties to aggregate nuclear material? Buy up a bunch of reactors and voila, no? Even with strict regulation and oversight on purchasing, surely that could and would be circumvented?
The 1950’s called and wanted their article back.
We don’t need AI displacing 60% of American jobs and littering the landscape with unnecessary nuclear reactors.
AI is a billionaire dream of them becoming trillionaires. Call your representatives now before you’re on the street starving.
Can’t we just have wind and solar already?
Further confirmation that we are in the fallout universe lagging by 75-100yrs
Courtesy NuScale Power, LLC
reddit bros everywhere…
what the word research mean???
seems reddit bros everywhere love being lied and mis info to .
This article brought to you by NuScale
Back when I was a child in the 60s, I envisioned reactors the size of washing machines behind everyone’s house. This was “flying car” times.
Solar and batteries are the obvious path forward. Maybe a few SMR’s but mostly solar and batteries cause obviously.
tiny solar panels and batteries could be the key to unlimited power across America.
SMRs are a pump-and-dump IPO scam. They’re too expensive. And nobody wants the hassles (NIMBY, etc). They’re just like the New Age of Dirigibles companies. The investor class wants them to happen, but they’re not going to happen.
Look, solar is cheap and getting cheaper. And it’s distributed instead of centralized, so the stock market can’t leverage Monopoly money to make fuck-all-y’all returns on investments. The only thing that’s a problem is power storage. It’s been getting better, fwiw, but slowly.
The possibility that they will be cheaper and safer than renewable energy is vanishingly small. Before we build these can we please finish cleaning up Hanford, contaminated since WW2 with ground plumes headed for the Columbia River.
I’ll get excited when they actually have them built and operating outside of a research project.
These SMRs are built by parallel institutionalists destroying America. Funded by Thiel, Lonsdale, Andreessen, aiming to supply power for their Network State projects.
Could be, but won’t.
This feels like the power generation equivalent of cryptocurrency. Surely fits into the DecentralizationBro mold.
Also, it’ll be even worse for the environment. Every house in the US requiring its own fissile material? Can you *imagine* how much nuclear waste this will produce?
The current power grid is a much more efficient, *and* environmentally friendly setup than whatever this would be. And all those wind farms that Trump has literally paid a billion dollars to have canceled would provide even more energy to the grid, with no added nuclear waste.
God, this is such a terrible idea.
Stupid headline, presumably stupid article.
Or just use non polluting wind and solar
Pretty sure solar plus battery is cheaper. Build nuclear power stations if you like but a farmer down the road will put solar over his crops and undercut you.
Nuclear vests
this some terminator shit
FFS
[This was Bill Gates’s wet dream decades ago.](https://whatisnuclear.com/twr.html)
Or solar on every roof and a battery in every yard